Re: M-TH: Re: Vote for Karl Marx!

1999-12-21 Thread J.WALKER

George Pennefather asked:
 How do you mean that Ghandi did not keep to his own
 principles of non-violence.

He not only gave his full backing to the British war effort in the 
1st Imperialist War (1914-19) but also calling on young Indians to 
follow his reactionary lead telling them to 'think imperially' and 
'do their duty' 

In a letter from himself and other Congress leaders in London at the 
time to the British Secretary of State they wrote:

'It was thought desirable by many of us that during the crisis that 
has overtaken the Empire... those Indians who are residing in the 
United Kingdom and who can at all do so should place themselves 
unconditionally at the service of the Authorities. On behalf of 
ourselves and those whose names appear on the list appended hereto, 
we beg to offer our services to the Authorities.'

This is hardly the position of a dedicated peace campaigner who is
committed to non-violent resolution to conflicts. This at a time when
the likes of Sylvia Pankhurst and John Maclean were campaigning
against the war effort and the revolutionary nationalist movement in
Ireland took the opportunity to further their aims rather than back
the Imperialist country that they had been fighting all that time.

Further to that, Ghandi made a personal offer of service in the 
Mesopotamian campaign to the Viceroy on his return to India (who 
excused him on health grounds, remarking that 'his very presence in 
India itself would be  of more service than any he might render 
abroad'). Following the Viceroy's Delhi Conference of 1917 and right 
up to July 1918 Ghandi was involved with a recruiting campaign urging 
Gujarati peasants to win Swaraj by joining the army. 

This was at a time of general unrest in India, crippling financial 
contribution being extracted from the poor for the war, rising 
prices, large scale profiteering and towards the close of the war the 
mass toll of the influenza epidemic which killed 14 million Indians.
At the same time India saw the growth of revolutionary movements 
in the Punab, the rise of a communist movement under the leadership 
of M N Roy and mutinies in the army which in turn were followed by 
ruthless suppressions, executions, sentences and new repressive 
legislation.

As well as these 'mistakes' he made in contradicting his own position 
I still cannot believe that any communism would offer support to this 
most reactionary of bourgeois nationalist leaders as he was also a 
rabid anti -communist who was committed to preventing the rise of the 
'red ruin' of the fight of the workers and peasants. In 1932, 
interviewed by Le Monde (20.2.1932) he stated, My social theory is 
that although we are all born equal... it is natural that some of us 
should be more fitted than others to acquire material gain. Those who 
are capable wish to acquire more, and they bend their abilities to 
this end, If they use their abilities in the best spirit they will be 
working to the benefit of the people.'

There are more similar statement by this religious apologist for 
capitalism. If anyone can think of a defence of this poor frail 
little man (who makes such a good image for Western movies) who 
peacefully and quietly lead the Indian nation to such a revolutionary 
new society then please do let me know. 

Regards,
John


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M-TH: Re: Helen Keller and Soicialism

1999-12-21 Thread Gerald Levy

There was a book published by International Publishers which contained a
collection of her socialist writings and speeches along with a
biographical introduction (possibly by Foner, if my memory is correct). I
imagine it is out-of-print now, but should be available through larger
libraries (I have a copy but it's in another state now).

Jerry



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M-TH: Fictitious capital

1999-12-21 Thread George Pennefather

Given the large amounts of fictitious capital in existence in the form of bonds and 
shares
etc and the long run rise in the price of shares it must be that the accumulation of
capital in the West has been sufficient to sustain this bull market.



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Re: M-TH: Re: Vote for Karl Marx!

1999-12-21 Thread George Pennefather

Dear John 

Your reply was appreciated

Warm regards
George Pennefather

Be free to check out our Communist Think-Tank web site at
http://homepage.eircom.net/~beprepared/

George Pennefather asked:
 How do you mean that Ghandi did not keep to his own
 principles of non-violence.

He not only gave his full backing to the British war effort in the 
1st Imperialist War (1914-19) but also calling on young Indians to 
follow his reactionary lead telling them to 'think imperially' and 
'do their duty' 




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