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Our friend Bob is always disparaging Kautsky but couldn't it be the case that Lenin was right concerning pre-WW I Europe whereas Kautsky's concept of a super-imperialism may well have validity for the world we live in now? Jim F. On Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:18:00 + Jim heartfield <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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In message , Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Bob Malecki wrote: > >>It is a myth "globalization". What we are seeing is growuing >>inter-imperialist rivalry which is quite the opposite of >>globalization the Leninist analisis of imperialism being t

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Bob Malecki wrote: >The entire left supported the "Iranian" revolution except for the >Spartacists who understood that this "revolution" came many decades >after Trotsky's writtings on "Results and Prospects" based on events >in 1905 and led to his theory of permanant revolution. What a sense

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.. > > Ah yes. Germany re-arming. Japan making threats against the U.S. > military presence in Asia. I mean, we saw this during the Kosovo war > that never happened, didn't we? U.S. tried to lead NATO into a war > against Serbia, but the EU would have none of it. No, said Brussels > to Washin

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> > Really? 42 years before Marx was born? > > Doug Yes really Doug! Like Marx said history is a history of class struggle even before he was borm.. Bob --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

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- Original Message - From: Michael Pugliese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 9:22 PM Subject: Re: SV: M-TH: Nation > Has Mr. "Cockroach" been reading the Stalinist historian, Herbert > Aptheker, on the Amer

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Bob writes: Sorry George, But maybe you should go back and read marx among others on the bourgeois revolutions of the past milinium. The whole construction you lay out is backwards and anti dialectical purely a deskboard idealistic job. As if the "nation" was something dreamed up by the bourgeoi

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coarse, but time and place, time and place. Michael Pugliese Michawel Pugliese - Original Message - From: Doug Henwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 11:04 AM Sub

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Bob Malecki wrote: >It is a myth "globalization". What we are seeing is growuing >inter-imperialist rivalry which is quite the opposite of >globalization the Leninist analisis of imperialism being the higest >stage of capitalism.. Ah yes. Germany re-arming. Japan making threats against the U.

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Bob Malecki wrote: >Foir example the first American revolution marxists took sides. Really? 42 years before Marx was born? Doug --- from list [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

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Charlie writes.. > Today, the big bourgeoisie are becoming significantly transnationalized, which >introduces another complication. In other words, now it is in the interest of the big >bourgeoisie to promote the notion of no national boundaries in their pursuit of >neo-liberal free trade. So

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George writes.. > > George: A nation and a nation state are two distinctly different forms. The former >is an > ideological construc whilst the latter is a real institution. A nation state is a >state > while an nation is merely an notion or constituent of the imagination. However to >call a >

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Sorry George, But maybe you should go back and read marx among others on the bourgeois revolutions of the past milinium. The whole construction you lay out is backwards and anti dialectical purely a deskboard idealistic job. As if the "nation" was something dreamed up by the bourgeoisie to pull

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Charles: In feudalism, there were manors, which were self-sufficient economic units. With the rise of capitalism, nation-states came about, defined by greatly expanded economic linkages, that is a leap in the division of labor and socialization of labor. So, in this sense the "nation" is a bour

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In feudalism, there were manors, which were self-sufficient economic units. With the rise of capitalism, nation-states came about, defined by greatly expanded economic linkages, that is a leap in the division of labor and socialization of labor. So, in this sense the "nation" is a bourgeois ent

M-TH: Nation

As I see it "nation" is an ideological construct. It is designed to mobilise a cross class unity in the interests of the "national" bourgeoisie". The nation as a community is an expression of the reified nature of social relations among people. The nation is a reified community. It is a communit

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To open a debate concerning what nation and nation state means in period when globalisation, it is being claimed by many, has embraced the planet might be of value and assist in the clarification of some matters connected with nation. It would seem to me that nation is an ideological concept cre