[Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-27 Thread c b
Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu Charles, I don't understand the purpose of so many posts. Since reading them all is out of the question, and I have no principle of selection that would work, I end up not reading any

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-26 Thread Carrol Cox
Charles, I don't understand the purpose of so many posts. Since reading them all is out of the question, and I have no principle of selection that would work, I end up not reading any of them, thogugh some of them must be important or at least inteesting. Carrol _

[Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread c b
Toolmaking of all types ( making a wheel or a vase or controlling fire) in prehistoric society was, based on inference from surviving prehistoric societies) integrated into kinship protocols, rituals, singing, dancing, telling stories. Prehistoric societies are not as broken up into segments as mod

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread c b
On 5/24/10, Shane Mage wrote: > What is truly bizarre is lumping an advanced technology--the wheel-- > with the most primitive of technologies--the stone ax. ^^ CB: Do u mean as if they were invented at the same time ? Not Both of them were passed on across generations. They are "lumped"

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread Shane Mage
What is truly bizarre is lumping an advanced technology--the wheel-- with the most primitive of technologies--the stone ax. On May 24, 2010, at 8:32 AM, c b wrote: > Carrol's vulgar materialist image of wheelwrights as only workers of > the hand, and not of the brain, talking to their apprentic

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread c b
Carrol's vulgar materialist image of wheelwrights as only workers of the hand, and not of the brain, talking to their apprentices, showing them how to make wheels by dumb-speechless gestures and mime, silent imitation, leads to stupid versions of workers as mindless bodies performing like robots.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread c b
On 5/22/10, Carrol Cox wrote: > As usual, I'm just breaking into the middle of a thread, and I do not > know who CeJ is quoting here, but I wholly agree with CeJ on this. The > idea of learning how to make a wheel from stories rather than directly > from another wheelwright is nothing short of bi

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-22 Thread Carrol Cox
As usual, I'm just breaking into the middle of a thread, and I do not know who CeJ is quoting here, but I wholly agree with CeJ on this. The idea of learning how to make a wheel from stories rather than directly from another wheelwright is nothing short of bizarre. That in any case was never the p

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-21 Thread c b
On 5/20/10, Carrol Cox wrote: > Just a few random observations as I can't keep up with all the posts on > this list or even a single thread. > > It seems to me that emphasis on utility/communication leads to ar > radically distorted view of language, its use, and its history. ^^ CB: This is p

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-20 Thread Carrol Cox
Just a few random observations as I can't keep up with all the posts on this list or even a single thread. It seems to me that emphasis on utility/communication leads to ar radically distorted view of language, its use, and its history. If one wants to look to other animals for light on language,