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Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Setting the record straight
Phil Walden wrote:
even the richest and most powerful
nation-state - the USA - became in the 1970s very much subordinate to the
transnational capitalist corporations. The age of capitalist nation
CJ, forgive me for saying so but you seem to have something (below) that
looks like a conspiracy theory.
Conspiracies take place all the time--it's called realworld politics.
Consider, for example, the conspiracy of Bush and Blair to attack and
occupy Iraq. Consider the conspiracy of certain
JF:Also, the US by the mid-1970s was being
perceived as starting to lose the cold
war. Soviet-backed national liberation
movements were making progress in
Africa, Latin America and elsewhere.
The Vietnam War itself, had left the
US exhausted with the American
public less than eager to see US
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:55:44 -0500 Ralph Dumain
rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes:
Looks like the real story to me. Notice the entry ends with Gerald
Ford. Social liberalism was killed off during the Carter
administration. The secret of all mysteries lies in the '70s.
One of the ironies
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Farmelant
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Subject: Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Setting the record straight
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:55:44 -0500 Ralph Dumain
rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes:
Looks like the real
even the richest and most powerful
nation-state - the USA - became in the 1970s very much subordinate to the
transnational capitalist corporations. The age of capitalist nation-states
dictating their own national economic policy completely died in the 1970s.
But that was the plan. An elite of
I don't buy the 'Trotskyite' theories of their origins, but I do get
that they were clustered around warhawk Demoncrat Scoop Jackson in the
1970s. Also, I don't necessarily agree with all of this analysis
cited below, which cites Lind, who is cited all over the internet.
Zbigniew Brezinzski would
Getting around to more of the ancient mysteries of the 1970s and Reagan 80s.
Operation Nickel Grass was a major sealift, too, with ultimately more
moved by ship in order to re-supply the IDF.
By the way, getting to end of the 1970s, the second oil shock was with
the revolution in Iran, and the
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 10:16:17 +0900 CeJ jann...@gmail.com writes:
JF: I don't think that it is any great mystery what
happened in the 1970s. In the mid-1970s,
we had the greatest economic crisis since
the Great Depression. It became clear that
the institutional framework which modern
Last one, which I guess does support the idea that the neocons are a
product of this loss
of the liberal consensus (expand social programs, concede to some
civil rights, and win the Cold War against the Soviet Union both with
military might and better rhetoric about freedom, democracy, human
1. In Japan, the history of the 1970s is often boiled down to these
key events: Nixon Shock (that is actually shocks, i.e., currency, 10%
tariffs on goods from Japan, and China), first oil shock, second oil
shock.
2. About the Vietnam syndrome. Much misunderstood. It actually boils
down to: war
I could also add that the top military leaders had two sources of doubt:
1. the high-tech weapons and reliance almost entirely on air power and
its ability to drop bombs and missiles
2. the fighting coherence of the all-volunteer 'professional' military
It's interesting how point 2 led to Abu
In a message dated 1/24/2010 6:34:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
cb31...@gmail.com writes:
Setting the record straight
by: Sam Webb
January 20 2010
President Obama is a reformer, not a socialist reformer, not a radical
reformer, and not even a consistent anti-corporate reformer, but a
CB: Obama did not run or speechify as left in the campaign or since.
So, he is not fulfilling a classic left function of any type. He is
acting as a liberal, and that's the way he talked during the election.
The disillusion involved here is from ultra-left analysis that
constantly lies about this
Can anyone figure out what the CPUSA gets in
return for its apparently unrecquited love
for Obama and the DP?
Jim F.
That might assume a coherent agenda, something I didn't get from reading
that drivel.
However, perhaps by being less contentious on the issues than a Kucinich
for Congress rally,
Wouldn't a liberal propose something different than this?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/us/politics/26budget.html?themc=th
The initiative holds political risks as well as potential benefits.
Because Mr. Obama plans to exempt military spending while leaving many
popular domestic programs
Sometimes in the American political lexicon, a 'liberal' is someone
who espouses a very weak form of
'social democracy' European style. Classical liberals, an
understanding most Americans know nothing of, have ended up over
amongst the libertarians I suspect. I suspect the contradiction that
lies
Looks like the real story to me. Notice the entry ends with Gerald
Ford. Social liberalism was killed off during the Carter
administration. The secret of all mysteries lies in the '70s.
At 05:39 AM 1/26/2010, CeJ wrote:
Sometimes in the American political lexicon, a 'liberal' is someone
who
The CPUSA wore itself out licking Brezhnev's balls for decades while
operating social-democratically in American politics. I'm surprised
it still exists after everyone left but Gus Hall, his chaffeur, and his dog.
It is however just one variant of the intellectual collapse of the
left. All of
(smile)
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c b
Setting the record straight
by: Sam Webb
January 20 2010
tags: Obama, elections, strategy and tactics, communists
It is said by some on the left that the Communist Party USA has no
differences with President Obama. Just to set the record straight: we
do and we express them. For example, we
Brain-dead. Delusional. Cretinous Party USA on its deathbed.
At 09:34 AM 1/24/2010, c b wrote:
Setting the record straight
by: Sam Webb
January 20 2010
tags: Obama, elections, strategy and tactics, communists
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Already dead, The Ghost of Stalin
On 1/24/10, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
Brain-dead. Delusional. Cretinous Party USA on its deathbed.
At 09:34 AM 1/24/2010, c b wrote:
Setting the record straight
by: Sam Webb
January 20 2010
tags: Obama, elections, strategy and
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:52:04 -0500 Ralph Dumain
rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes:
Brain-dead. Delusional. Cretinous Party USA on its deathbed.
Can anyone figure out what the CPUSA gets in
return for its apparently unrecquited love
for Obama and the DP?
Jim F.
At 09:34 AM 1/24/2010, c
An award for better political thinking than the anti-Obama left.
On 1/24/10, Jim Farmelant farmela...@juno.com wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:52:04 -0500 Ralph Dumain
rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes:
Brain-dead. Delusional. Cretinous Party USA on its deathbed.
Can anyone figure out
This sort of politics worked during the New Deal, which was the CPs
heyday. And that was partially because the nebulous long-term vision
of socialism could be seen as the logical conclusion of short-term
reform efforts and the growth in power of labor organizations, and
because using the state
Ralph Dumain wrote:
This sort of politics worked during the New Deal, which was the CPs
heyday. And that was partially because the nebulous long-term vision
of socialism could be seen as the logical conclusion of short-term
reform efforts and the growth in power of labor organizations, and
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