There is a three-sided battle over the internet, between control by 
capitalist forces, anarchists, and by genuinely democratic forces.

Generally we should side with the anarchists against the capitalists.

But while I agree with much of what Karl is saying, when you hear that 
250,000 people subscribed to a child pornography website, whose ringleaders 
were recently arrested in the USA, it is hard to resist the idea of some 
sort of coercive state or global power, even though this story may have 
been hyped up for exactly the motives that Karl describes.

About tolerance and lack of state controls, whether on the internet or not, 
I agree the thrust of many of the arguments against censorship and drug 
controls. We need to put more emphasis on people being helped to take 
control of managing the spectrum of risky drugs of recreation and 
dependence, from caffeine up. We also need people to take responsibility 
for themselves and others about the risks and rewards of sexual intimacy.

But the assumptions should not  be that of atomised civil society composed 
of just a mass of inviduals with their own bourgeois right, but of 
participation in interdependent human communities.

And I strongly suggest there should be a distinction between the control of 
actions that are exploratory and without financial motive, and those that 
are linked or potentially linked to capitalist exploitation.

Chris Burford

London




At 08/08/01 16:16 +0100, you wrote:
>The constant attack on the circulation of commodities in the form of 
>pornography
>on the internet is a device to build up a climate conducive to controlling and
>regulating the internet in the interests of capital.


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