Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note on positivism (was Re: Cornel West & Marxism (7))

2007-06-09 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:25:45 -0400 Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Of these definitions, the one that really matters is (2). But I would > add > that positivism tends toward phenomenalism, a merely descriptive > rather > than explanatory view of science, science as the economy of t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
Yes, of course. I don't consider this hair-splitting, but others might. The concept of "tradition", as compared to cumulative experience, is one consideration. A body of thought that purports to embrace and present itself as the crest of the wave of the concrete accumulated experience of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread Ralph Dumain
At 03:13 PM 6/9/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >(Three pages of discussion. The Black Marxism thing begins under >Section III) Is there a black radical tradition in American society? Did >there develop or emerge a Marxist current within this black tradition? >Did there develop amongst t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cerberus Puzzles

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
>> Well, we have to become the real bourgeoisie and the real managers of capital. The equation is not Daimler getting a return on the $36 billion it paid for Chrysler and measuring "the big 36" against selling the company for $7.4 billion. Debt financing . . . (so I studied a little

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Black Thing

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cerberus Puzzles

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
PEN-L BRICOLAGE CLIP (language attributable to one Michael Perelman I should guess): >>I'm trying to make sense of the Cerberus takeover of Chrysler. The private equity firm is getting Daimler only $1.3 billion not much of a return for the original $36 billion that Daimler paid for Chrysler.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
(Three pages of discussion. The Black Marxism thing begins under Section III) Is there a black radical tradition in American society? Did there develop or emerge a Marxist current within this black tradition? Did there develop amongst the Marxist current, within the black radical tradition

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note on positivism

2007-06-09 Thread Ralph Dumain
The fact that Frege and Husserl are seen as belonging to entirely different worlds relates to the peculiar conditions that created this artificial concept known as "continental philosophy". As for scientists, naturally, there are only a small percentage who are philosophically inclined and only

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note on positivism

2007-06-09 Thread CeJ
RE: A note on positivism >>The positivist conception of science which holds that science aims at the explanation and prediction of observable phenomena by treating them as instances of universal natural laws. What Carl Hempel referred to as the covering-law model of scientific explanation is adher

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cerberus Puzzles

2007-06-09 Thread CeJ
PEN-L BRICOLAGE CLIP (language attributable to one Michael Perelman I should guess): >>I'm trying to make sense of the Cerberus takeover of Chrysler. The private equity firm is getting Daimler only $1.3 billion not much of a return for the original $36 billion that Daimler paid for Chrysler. The

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cornel West & Marxism

2007-06-09 Thread Waistline2
There is always the risk of being misunderstood. One can simply be wrong or need to deepen and explain a thesis to take into account other critique. Such is my experience. Specifically, I happen to think and believe that Professor West is basically a bourgeois social democrat and player am

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread Ralph Dumain
It's only the 'else' that really matters in a productive way, as the concoction of such an intellectual 'tradition' as an actual entity is where the trouble lies. And his academic standing matters a great deal, as the politics of academic departments has a lot to do with the way careers are ma

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note on positivism (was Re: Cornel West & Marxism (7))

2007-06-09 Thread Ralph Dumain
Of these definitions, the one that really matters is (2). But I would add that positivism tends toward phenomenalism, a merely descriptive rather than explanatory view of science, science as the economy of thought rather than objective reflection of underlying processes (also what Marx calls re

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Capitalism, Marxism, and the Black Radical Tradition

2007-06-09 Thread CeJ
I found the interview interesting in its critique of the 'Black Radical Tradition' and little else. His take on the history of radical traditions and things like 'Hegel on the British political economy' could also be interesting. Regardless of my own misgivings, he is the director of a programme at

[Marxism-Thaxis] A note on positivism (was Re: Cornel West & Marxism (7))

2007-06-09 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 06:09:54 -0400 Ralph Dumain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > West begins with a definition of positivism: "Positivism differs > from other > philosophic quests for objectivity or searches for foundations in > that it > deems the scientific method the only legitimate way