Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] relevance

[c b]

Spoken like a true autosundry

On 7/16/09, Ralph Dumain rdum...@autodidactproject.org wrote:
 The relevance consists in this:

 IF:

 (1) You constantly submit to the list whole entries from wikipedia in
 an unreadable format, without comment, assuming that we can't use
 Wikipedia ourselves;

 (2) Randomly pick up on any idea that crosses your mind and run with
 it in an arbitrary and superficial fashion;

 (3) Mechanically correlate every piece of information that crosses
 your path with your confused understanding of isolated phrases culled
 from the classics of dialectical materialism;

 (4) Make idiotic assertions about everything based on arbitrary
 self-delusion, such as representing Obama's victory as a
 manifestation of a anti-racism;

 (5) Lie through your teeth about China being a socialist country;

 (6) Think that the USSR was your friend and had your interests at heart;

 (7) Are a follower of the Communist Party:

 THEN:

 You demonstrate to all and sundry that you are a dumb ass with
 nothing worthwhile to say about anything.

 At 06:02 PM 7/16/2009, Karl Dallas wrote:
 And the relevance of this stuff about aa deluded young pop star and a
 19th Century horror author to the subject of this list (which, I seem
 to recall, once was Marxism) would be what, exactly?


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[Marxism-Thaxis] Leszek Kolakowski dies

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*Leszek Kolakowski, philosopher, sociologist and essayist has died, aged 
82. *

“We receive this news with great pain and sorrow,” said Rector of Warsaw 
University, Katarzyna Chalasinska-Macukow. “This is a big loss not just 
for Poland but for the world.”

Poland’s lower house of parliament, the Sejm, stopped debating, Friday, 
to pay the distinguished intellectual a minute’s silence in his memory.

Kolakowski’s /Main Currents of Marxism/ (1978) became a standard 
academic text in universities the world over and he was awarded Poland’s 
highest honour, the White Eagle, for services to the history of ideas.

Kolakowski was born in Radom, central Poland in 1927. He took his degree 
at Lodz University and his doctorate in Warsaw University where he later 
led the history of philosophy departament.

Originally a member of the communist Polish United Workers Party he 
became disillusioned and joined a growing band of revisionist Marxists. 
After being thrown out of the party and losing his post at Warsaw 
University, Kolakowski became convinced that Stalinism was the logical 
conclusion of Marxism and not its aberration, as was the line in many 
communist parties in Europe and elsewhere.

 From the late 1960s he worked in universities in the US, and UK, where 
he became a prominent academic at Oxford University. He is thought to be 
a major intellectual inspiration to the opposition to communism in Poland. *
http://polskieradio.pl/thenews/national/artykul112297_leszek_kolakowski_dies.html
*


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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 69, Issue 11

[c b]

Marxists should be interested in mass phenonomena, mass culture,
mass consciousness of many forms. Adorno may have been wrong about
popular music and culture (smile), but he wasn't wrong to
investigate popular music and culture vis-a-vis working class mass
consciousness. That was not a project irrelevant to Marxism.

Socialist realist aesthetics concerns itself with working class
highlife, play, fun, life _outside_ of work, because in reality
workers have life outside of work. Work hard, play hard.

See Marxist Thaxis discussions from circa 1998 -2000 on need for
Marxists to learn about working class partying, music, arts
,recreation, relaxation. See Angela Davis book on women blues singers,
and the African American music tradition as blues tradition. See
discussion of relationship between modern popular music and this blues
tradition. See discussions of relevance of this and relationships
between women and men , as well as Black culture and Black/White
relations ( on Marxism - Thaxis)



See relationship between Communists of the 30's and 40's and jazz
musicians such as Billie Holiday and Charlie Parker.

Consider concerns of Sidney Finkelstein on these issues

Sidney Finkelstein
Birth/Death: July 4, 1909 — January 14, 1974.
Sidney Finkelstein was born in Brooklyn, New York on July 4, 1909,
studied at City College in New York, and did graduate work at Columbia
University and New York University. In the 1930s he was a book
reviewer for the Brooklyn Daily Eagle and worked for the United States
Postal Service. In the 1940s he joined the music staff of the Herald
Tribune and was also a music reviewer for New Masses, Masses, and
Mainstream. Between 1951 and 1973 he worked for Vanguard Records,
specializing in jazz and classical recordings. As an author he was
most noted for a number of books that brought a socialist realist
perspective to the arts, partricularly Jazz, a People's Music, in
1948. Finkelstein died in Brooklyn on January 14, 1974.

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Also, it is not the Marxist position on philosophy and art  to ignore
bourgeois philosophies and arts, but to consider especially
progressive bourgeois and petit bourgeois thinkers and artists as
capable of giving great insight on mass thinking . The textbook
example on this is Marx liked to read Flaubert or some other French
novelist who was a reactionary politically, because even reactionary
artists can have useful insights for the cause of the working class,
and otherwise in terms of understanding humanity and society.


And always remember: The Soviet Union is your friend.



On 7/17/09, c b cb31...@gmail.com wrote:
 Listen up better. In brief,  Michael Jackson who had the ears of
 millions sought to unite Black and White. Any _Marxist_ in the United
 States who is not concerned about this issue is not a Marxist. Are you
 a Marxist or what ?

 Pay attention and