[Marxism-Thaxis] Nilotic peoples

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
>>The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East African Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle past

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
>>Linearity. This come first, then this second, then this third. That's order. The thought is a whole, but it is presented in parts; the parts are presented in an order dictated by rules. The rule is a convention, "arbitrary", cultural, based on a tradition. There is no natural order in which to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
>>CB: Is this that capacity to (readily and speedily)_ learn_ a given syntax is innate and genetically passed on ? I guess that's what you mean by "reflective".<< I'm following you on this CB, and am not necessarily in disagreement with you on the key points. I was, however, pointing out that ho

[Marxism-Thaxis] Alex Saxton on Terry Eagleton

2010-06-03 Thread Jim Farmelant
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[Marxism-Thaxis] Facebook fascism

2010-06-03 Thread c b
RIGHT-WING EXTREMISTS ORGANIZE AND PROMOTE VIOLENCE ON FACEBOOK -- SHOULD THE FEDS BUST THEM OR LEAVE THEM ALONE? By Justine Sharrock, AlterNet >From militias to white supremacists, right-wing groups are using social networking to organize and spread propaganda. Should the government do something?

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols

2010-06-03 Thread c b
CeJ jannuzi We have been over some of this before--that is, Quine, Chomsky, the phoneme--but one point to remember here would be that at least with early conceptions, syntax of natural language is reflective of an inn

[Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols

2010-06-03 Thread c b
[Marxism-Thaxis] . CeJ jannuzi We could use abstract and arbitrary symbols or schema (tree diagrams, for example) to represent a language's syntax (indeed, descriptive linguistics did before Chomsky, and then the use of such for formalization after Chomsky really took off), but I'm not at all clear

[Marxism-Thaxis] Why , oh, why are humans so thoroughly socially determined ?

2010-06-03 Thread c b
CeJ >>CB: Ha ha. Egyptology has not completely failed; hieroglyphs have been translated, etc. There's the _Book of the Dead_,<< Which I'm sure you read everyday at lunch, right CB? That is, afterall, why you and you

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread c b
On 6/3/10, CeJ wrote: > >>On 5/28/10, CeJ wrote: > > Actually rules can't be rules without symbols, but are they symbolic? > > > CB: Yeah, rules must be expressed in symbols. > > What do you mean by symbolic ?<< > > > A symbol is something that stands for another thing which it is not >

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Pierre Bourdieu and Erich Fromm

2010-06-03 Thread c b
On 6/2/10, Ralph Dumain wrote: > Lenin is a separate question from the Fromm vs Marcuse controversy. I > will have to make another thorough study of Lenin's MAEC one day. My > take on it is that Lenin's critique of positivism's phenomenalism is > basically sound. Whether he missed something import

[Marxism-Thaxis] Why , oh, why are humans so thoroughly socially determined ?

2010-06-03 Thread c b
Cheikh Anta Diop http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheikh_Anta_Diop Diop and the African context In summary, modern anthropological and DNA scholarship repeats and confirms many of the criticisms made by Diop as regards t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why , oh, why are humans so thoroughly socially determined ?

2010-06-03 Thread c b
Well, do you deny that Alexander conquered the City in Egypt ? Or are you a crackpot in ancient history . Aristotle was Alexander's teacher. A mystical/esoteric conception of philosophy. No, it's based on a Marxist conception of history. Diop was a Marxist. Or are you ignorant of that ? On 6/2/10

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
We have been over some of this before--that is, Quine, Chomsky, the phoneme--but one point to remember here would be that at least with early conceptions, syntax of natural language is reflective of an innate cognitive capacity and genetically passed on in humans. Chomsky though is a structuralist

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
It always seemed to me--from the very time I was introduced to Chomsky's work in a philosophy of language class in 1982--that he basically took the ideas of people like Carnap and extended them to natural languages. Indeed, has Chomsky's conceptualization of 'competence' (an abstract ideal) ever

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Rules are symbolic , built on symbols.

2010-06-03 Thread CeJ
We could use abstract and arbitrary symbols or schema (tree diagrams, for example) to represent a language's syntax (indeed, descriptive linguistics did before Chomsky, and then the use of such for formalization after Chomsky really took off), but I'm not at all clear on how symbolic word or morphe