Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note sent to Marxmial

2008-10-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/1/2008 6:16:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a clusterfuck that would be. About the only thing the handful of 'writers' could agree on would be how brilliant they are (but they would be too dumb to realize they were actually agreeing so they

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] A note sent to Marxmial - nationalization of banks

2008-10-02 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/2/2008 5:49:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>What is depressing about events around the legislation is this. If I remember correctly, something like 90% of Americans supported the Bushwa's attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, and something like 90% a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] nationalization of banks/centralization of credit - Marx

2008-10-02 Thread Waistline2
We have seen above, that the first step in the revolution by the working class is to raise the proletariat to the position of ruling class to win the battle of democracy. The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degree, all capital from the bourgeoisie, to centralise a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] nationalization/centralization of credit - 1872 preface

2008-10-02 Thread Waistline2
"However much that state of things may have altered during the last twenty-five years, the general principles laid down in the Manifesto are, on the whole, as correct today as ever. Here and there, some detail might be improved. The practical application of the principles will depend, as th

[Marxism-Thaxis] Voting for Obama - yep.

2008-10-02 Thread Waistline2
I watched the Vice Presidential debate with my wife in its entirety. Govern Palin is scary and revealed her fascist streak in suggesting the expansion of the Vice President's role beyond the executive branch into the legislative function of government. I thought at first that she misunderst

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Voting for Obama - yep.

2008-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/3/2008 10:29:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >> Nobody intelligent is suggesting voting against a candidate because he's labeled "bourgeois." The issue at stake is the "One party with two right wings" (Gore Vidal) c

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Draft leaflet

2008-10-04 Thread Waistline2
In my way of thinking the draft leaflet is way to long. WL. **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0001) _

[Marxism-Thaxis] The military budget is way out of hand

2008-10-04 Thread Waistline2
If Only We Didn't Waste It on The Defense Budget by Chalmers Johnson TomDispatch via Countercurrents (September 29 2008) There has been much moaning, air-sucking, and outrage about the $700 billion that the US government is thinking of throwing away on rich New York bankers who have been

[Marxism-Thaxis] Steel Workers President: Against racism - in support of Obama, Video

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/04/union-president-defends-o_n_131954.html **New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew0002)

[Marxism-Thaxis] UKRAINE not IRAN, THE NEXT FLASH POINT?

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
Zavtra No. 40 October 2, 2008 MAIN AXIS OF ADVANCE Ukraine as the focus of the United States' attention in the post-Soviet zone Author: Sergei Glaziev UKRAINIAN CARD IN AMERICA'S GEOPOLITICAL GAME: WILL UKRAINE INSTEAD OF IRAN BECOME THE NEXT FLASH POINT? Fomenting severance of ties

[Marxism-Thaxis] Obama and terrorist friendship charge: Who is Bill Ayer? April 2008 article

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
Ayers, 63, spent 10 years as a fugitive in the 1970s when he was part of the "Weather Underground," an anti-Vietnam War group that protested U.S. policies by bombing the Pentagon, U.S. Capitol and a string of other government buildings. Nobody was hurt in the attacks by the defunct organizati

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Obama and terrorist friendship charge: Bill Ayer

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
The Internet is wonderful. Anyone desiring to know the basis and substance of the charges against Senator Obama concerning Mr. Bill Ayer, can simply look up the facts on the Internet. I went to billayer.org and several other avenues of information available on line. As a communist more

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] 'Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
“When homes are doubling in price in every six years and incomes are increasing by a mere one percent per year, Fannie’s mission is of paramount importance,” Senator Jack Reed , a Rhode

[Marxism-Thaxis] Theory of Revolution

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
2) And he (along with the "Stalinists") left a terrible heritage -- the delusion that there could be a general theory of revolution. There cannot be. Every revolution is separate and only in the most banal ways will resemble any other revolution. Each requires New Thought. CB: Yes, al

[Marxism-Thaxis] Presidential debate 2: Obama falters McCain the winner

2008-10-07 Thread Waistline2
Well, the wife said and I agree with it, that Obama stumbled and falter and seemed like an amateur. The most disheartening answer both candidates offered was their reply to the question "should health car be treated as a commodity?" Both candidates refused to answer the question and opted

[Marxism-Thaxis] America's Right-Wing Zealots

2008-10-09 Thread Waistline2
America's Right-Wing Zealots Will Not Fade Away Thursday 09 October 2008 by: Steve Weissman, t r u t h o u t | Perspective In 1964, Sen. Barry Goldwater of Arizona ran for president as a rock-ribbed conservative who yearned to roll back both the Soviet Empire and FDR's New Deal. He carrie

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Inflammatory Republican rallies raise concern

2008-10-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/10/2008 9:52:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Another Poster' s comment: [Rallies are eliciting angry audience exclamations like "Kill him!" and "Off with his head!" when Palin esp. launches into anti-Obama tirades. One clip I saw featured an

[Marxism-Thaxis] Why the Bailout Won't Work and What We Need to Do

2008-10-10 Thread Waistline2
Why the Bailout Won't Work and What We Need to Do As this edition of the People's Tribune goes to press, the government has just approved the $700 billion bailout of the banks and other wealthy speculators. Among the people there is a mixture of anger and fear - anger that the speculator

[Marxism-Thaxis] Job crisis: cause and solution

2008-10-10 Thread Waistline2
Job crisis: cause and solution "I'm one of 600,000 Americans who lost their jobs this year," said a single Mom. "Potential employers tell me that so many people apply that they can get the skills they want without even considering everyone's application, including mine." This woman's s

[Marxism-Thaxis] Elections 2008: Let’s Declar e Our independence from the Corporations

2008-10-10 Thread Waistline2
Elections 2008: Let’s Declare Our independence from the Corporations As this is being written, the 2008 presidential election is just a few weeks away. The country is sliding deeper into a terrible economic crisis. This will probably be one of the most important elections in the country’s

[Marxism-Thaxis] New York county prints ‘Barack Osama’ on ballots

2008-10-11 Thread Waistline2
CNN) — Some are calling it a Freudian slip. Everyone’s calling it a big mistake. Hundreds of absentee ballots sent to voters in New York State’s Rensselaer County, near Albany, were printed with Barack Obama’s last name spelled as “ Osama," the Albany Times Union reports. County elections

[Marxism-Thaxis] Interview With Green Party Presidential Candidate

2008-10-11 Thread Waistline2
The People's Tribune submitted questions to Presidential candidate Cynthia Mc Kinney and the Green Party Campaign. We received these answers. See our website for the complete interview at _http://www.peoplestribune.org_ (http://www.peoplestribune.org) . People's Tribune: Please summarize the

[Marxism-Thaxis] The white chauvinist backlash

2008-10-11 Thread Waistline2
The white backlash in national election campaigns is the inevitable result of American history and specifically the role of the African American people, in American history. Senator John McCain is the focal point of the reactionary white chauvinist backlash. Interestingly enough, the charges

[Marxism-Thaxis] An interview with Nelson Peery, auth or of ‘Black Radical’

2008-10-11 Thread Waistline2
An interview with Nelson Peery, author of ‘Black Radical’ By Patrick R. Saunders March 2008 _http://www.peoplestribune.org/PT.2008.03/PT.2008.03.8.html_ (http://www.peoplestribune.org/PT.2008.03/PT.2008.03.8.html) The following is an interview with Nelson Peery, author of the new book, “

[Marxism-Thaxis] Race and class

2008-10-12 Thread Waistline2
Crossing Over As the U.S. Economy Sputters, Working-Class Women Shift to Obama By JONATHAN KAUFMAN Wall Street Journal October 11 2008 KOKOMO, Ind. -- Last month, in this once-sturdy auto town of 60,000, two white women sounded off at a union hall when talk turned to politics. "I feel like a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Race and class

2008-10-12 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/12/2008 7:11:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: >> I wonder how much I should feel encouraged by this desperate shift of ignorant white women toward Obama. I suspect white Americans are idiots by and large, but because

[Marxism-Thaxis] Racist statement against Michelle Obama

2008-10-16 Thread Waistline2
Star Jones Reynolds responds to Bill O'Reilly/Fox News about Michelle Obama! Worth reading... Below is Star Jones' informed and provocative response to Bill O'Reilly's comment about 'having a lynching party for Michelle Obama if he finds out that she truly has no pride in her cou

[Marxism-Thaxis] Part II: Treasury’s “Tr oubled Assets Relief Program” in Trouble

2008-10-29 Thread Waistline2
Full: _http://henryckliu.com/page172.html_ (http://henryckliu.com/page172.html) By now, it is becoming clear that government policy has been mostly focused on maintaining asset price at levels that the market has rejected. Logic suggests that such a policy will result in hyperinflation at t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] my weekend in "real" virginia

2008-10-31 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 10/31/2008 2:39:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Another account of the Melungeons of Appalachia, from a left perspective (though please note I'm not here and now endorsing the editorial line that the general site takes on race in America). http:/

[Marxism-Thaxis] Massive Pension Fund Crisis in the US

2008-11-02 Thread Waistline2
Massive Pension Fund Crisis in the US By Henry C.K. Liu This article appeared in AToL on October 31, 2008 as: Balck Hole Gapes for Pensions More than three years before the current financial crisis, in a series Greenspan, the Wizard of Bubbleland that began on September 14, 2005, I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Caucasians

2008-11-06 Thread Waistline2
>>Correct. Race is not a valid _biological_category. It is a valid historical category.<< Which shows that history is a delusion? Looking at that mail from BO, it seems possible. Guy thinks 'we' (I guess that is the same as McCain's 'my friends') just made history and he hasn't even become

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] "Runaway shops" not chauvinist or racist usage

2005-11-14 Thread Waistline2
It is not necesssary to pander to or imply nasty racism or national chauvinism in describing the process of running away shops from U.S. workers. The demand may be keep these shops here and build new shops in other countries; i.e. stop the imperialist policy of preventing industrial development in

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Antagonism between social production and private property

2005-11-14 Thread Waistline2
CB: The antagonism between the social nature of production and the private nature of appropriation or property is what you are trying to get at. Technical production as it develops makes itself more and more social. Marx assumes that the overall division or socialisation of labor increases ; may

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Homespun philosophy

2005-11-16 Thread Waistline2
>>>Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us. Pass it on if yo

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Antagonism between social production and private property

2005-11-16 Thread Waistline2
CB: Then I can't find anything in what you are saying. WL: Of course you can't. That is why I can describe antagonism as a specific mode of resolution of contradiction and you define antagonism as irreconcilable conflict. That is why I presented you with the historical source of the issue of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Antagonism between social production and private property

2005-11-17 Thread Waistline2
CB: Then I can't find anything in what you are saying. WL: Of course you can't. CB: Of course , 'cause there's nothing there ? WL: The Textbook of Marxist Philosophy 1939, prepared by the Leningrad Institute of Philosophy under the direction of M. Shirokov, is in fact a histori

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tailism and the Dialectic online

2005-11-19 Thread Waistline2
>>>CB: Importantly, the dialectic of history is that changes in the mode of human interaction with nature determine changes in history, that is, the whole of a people's tradition. The developments of tradition and culture initiate in the dialectic of economic classes.<< WL: "The developme

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tailism and the Dialectic online

2005-11-20 Thread Waistline2
V: The prime pre-conditions for developments of tradition and culture are in the development of human interaction with nature (the forces of production), but these are subject to changes initiated by developments in social relations (of which class is only one of a diversity of significant soci

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tailism and the Dialectic online/base and superstructure

2005-11-21 Thread Waistline2
CB: I'm thinking being determines consciousness, but intermittently , not continuously. I'm thinking that most of the time in history, the "base" only sets a pre-condition as you say, only sets a limit on superstructure. _But_ in those rare revolutionary moments of history when there is a real c

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Activist Materialism - end the old period

2005-11-21 Thread Waistline2
>>The C.P.U.S.A. ( and perhaps other Communist Parties around the world) frequently draws attention to the 11th and final thesis of the Theses on Feuerbach, as mentioned above, which is as follows: The philosophers have only INTERPRETED the world, in various ways: the point is to CHANGE it.<< **

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Activist Materialism

2005-11-22 Thread Waistline2
The philosophers have only INTERPRETED the world, in various ways: the point is to CHANGE it.<< *** WL: Perhaps, but I thought the point was the direction of the change. *** CB: I'd give Marx the benefit of the doubt that he meant the point is to change the world in the correc

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Activist Materialism/2

2005-11-22 Thread Waistline2
Listen to the following statement from "Activist Materialism" - 1992. >>>The key to understanding subjectivity (personality, character) is women's liberation, as the oppression of women is the fundamental barrier to personality and subjective health. The emancipation of mass subjectivity and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Activist Materialism/Los Angeles 1992/Women

2005-11-23 Thread Waistline2
>>If giving up the term "women" is what it takes for female subjectivity, is there an equivalent for working class subjectivity? Is it because we were *too busy* thinking of ourselves as surfaces of inscription rather than permeable boundaries? I'm skeptical the role the women's lib movement

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Interview with Angela Davis - my tender experience

2005-11-24 Thread Waistline2
>>Angela DAVIS: Actually we've had a black bourgeoisie or the makings of a black bourgeoisie for many more decades if we look at one of our great leaders, W.E.B. Du Bois, he was associated with a very minuscule black bourgeoisie in the 19th century so this is not something that is substantivel

[Marxism-Thaxis] Again on the Stalin era

2005-12-11 Thread Waistline2
Excellent! Comrade Stalin's battle until death is always presented by the degenerate bourgeoisie and their left front men outside every elementary concept implied in our materialist approach to history. For instance, if one is discussing the domination of the bureaucracy and not simply the n

[Marxism-Thaxis] Richard Pryor

2005-12-11 Thread Waistline2
.aol.com/entertainment/article.adp?id=20051210162409990003 Richard Pryor is dead. Perhaps no individual in American history so well captures the time of a great transformation in American society. Perhaps, more than any other individual in our history, Pryor having lived, proves that Amer

[Marxism-Thaxis] Richard Pryor

2005-12-11 Thread Waistline2
.aol.com/entertainment/article.adp?id=20051210162409990003 Richard Pryor is dead. Perhaps no individual in American history so well captures the time of a great transformation in American society. Perhaps, more than any other individual in our history, Pryor having lived, proves that America

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Richard Pryor - Reply to Ralph

2005-12-13 Thread Waistline2
Brother Ralph states that my following statement is "meaningless verbiage" and aks if I am "a fucking moron?" I am of course familiar with Ralph's style of discourse, but need to reprint what I stated. I wrote: >Perhaps no individual in American history so well captures the time of a >great t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Again on the Stalin era

2005-12-13 Thread Waistline2
>>>I remember this jackass Grover Furr well. You must be a first-class imbecile to defecate this excrement into this discussion list.<< Reply WL: Actually, my approach to the question of the bureaucracy is fairly advanced. Which is of course why you have nothing to say. Really. Hey . . . I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Richard Pryor . Wake up Ralph !

2005-12-13 Thread Waistline2
CB; What I want to say is how the fuck does Ralph think he can get away with calling people morons or claiming they have damaged minds without getting blasted into next week. The threads on this list for several months have been one big refutation of his claims that Engels, Marxism-Leninism, S

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Logical Empiricism (reformatted)

2005-12-13 Thread Waistline2
>>My problem lies in the demarcation of 'marxism' and the body of accumulated knowledge and methodology, and especially the institutionalization of 'marxism' that effects its teaching and transmission and thus its relation to the totality of human knowledge. Now you can quote Engels all you li

[Marxism-Thaxis] The socialist camp and it spilt in history

2005-12-26 Thread Waistline2
The socialist camp divides The Sino-Soviet and Soviet-Albanian conflicts in the 1960s and 1970s by A Baryshev A Baryshev is Secretary of the Central Committee Communist Party of the Soviet Union headed by Oleg S Shenin. The CPSU is one of the many communist parties active in Russia and ot

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism : wikipedia note

2006-01-10 Thread Waistline2
"Stalinism has been described as being synonymous with totalitarianism, or a tyrannical regime. The term has been used to describe regimes that fight political dissent through violence, imprisonment, and killings." "The term "Stalinism" is sometimes used to denote a brand of communist theory,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism : wikipedia note

2006-01-10 Thread Waistline2
>> Was Stalinism the logical conclusion of Leninism? Historians are divided over that question. The continuity theorists believe that Stalinism was the logical conclusion of Leninism and that both of them have more similarities than differences. Whereas the discontinuity theorists claim that t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism

2006-01-11 Thread Waistline2
CB; Does Stalin himself use terms like "ascendency of the industrial system", "Fordism", "transition from agrarian ecnonomic..etc.", or are these terms derived from concepts and terms Stalin used ? WL: Here is how Stalin speaks - presents things: >>>During this period, the U.S.S.R. has become

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism

2006-01-11 Thread Waistline2
It is a fact that the socialist system of economy in the sphere of industry now constitutes 99 per cent of the total; and in agriculture, according to the area sown to grain crops, it constitutes 84.5 per cent of the total, whereas individual peasant economy accounts for only 15.5 per cent.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism

2006-01-11 Thread Waistline2
Ok. I'm just thinking that Stalin is speaking concretely about the SU. The US had gone through significant industrialization before Russia/SU. Also, the Russian agrarian society was feudal and the US agrarian society was petit bourgeois/small farmer with petty plots. Doesn't the latter make a diff

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalinism - 2

2006-01-11 Thread Waistline2
of course, is no small item. In the so-called consuming zone there are about 5 million hectares of virgin soil, covered with scrub. It is well known that the climate in this zone is not bad; precipitation is ample, and droughts unknown. If this land were cleared of scrub and a number of organiza

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalin

2006-01-12 Thread Waistline2
CB: Yes, of course, the SU had the hammer and the sickle, with the sickle representing the agrarian working masses. In the U.S., going back to the historical era in question, the agrarian masses were the slave workers, as you correct me, and the petty farmer masses. I suppose these could correspond

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalin

2006-01-13 Thread Waistline2
(I snuck this in under the title "Stalin" hoping that Ralph would not see it and blow a piston rod. You know how upset he gets about everything and nothing) :-) >>Class is not a physical relation, for example. If that makes me not a materialist in your book, I'm not a materialist, so what? <<

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalin - Philosophy cannot explain itself

2006-01-13 Thread Waistline2
CB; When an idea grips masses, it becomes a material ( physical) force. Class is defined by relationship ( ownership or lack thereof) to the means of production, which are physical or material. However, it is true that there are two levels of Marxist materialism , thus we need historical material

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stalin - Philosophy cannot explain itself

2006-01-14 Thread Waistline2
WL: Are there actually two level of Marxism or is this your understanding of the meaning of "level" and Marxism? If I where to discuss Marxism as a philosophy, which it is not in my opinion, I would not use the word level because of its American English meaning. CB: Yes, I would use "le

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class

2006-01-14 Thread Waistline2
>>>"...Lenin further developed Marx's teaching on classes and defined them as 'large groups of people differing from each other by the place they occupy in a historically determined system of social production, by their relation...to the means of production, by their role in the social organizatio

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Levels - part 1

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
>>CB: These are the levels of organization of reality. Materialist dialectics encompasses all the levels of organization of reality, actually. Historical materialism is the most important level for us humans , because it brings to bear all the rest of the levels with a plan for action at our lev

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Levels - 2

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
CB: >>However, the law of quantitative change turning into qualitative change, is reciprocal, quality turns into quantity, _there are reductions_ between some levels.<< WL: This is how I address the workers and explain applied Marxism as an art. The relation between quantity and quality - as

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
CB: Do you now understand class as a relation "TO" the means of production, since this is a good definition of class ? WL: No. Class is a relationship within a system of production . . . period. No one can dispute this. The real issue is the definition of class you gave. My definition is extr

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. ON CULTURAL HYBRIDITY, HEGEL, ID...

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
>>The old Hegelian synthesis still offers the best answer to many of life's dilemmas. The American Negro is neither totally African nor totally western. He is Afro-American, a true hybrid, a combination of two cultures. "Who are we? We are the descendants of slaves. We are the offspring of

[Marxism-Thaxis] China and Africa: interesting

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
'We Love China' Lindsey Hilsum http://www.granta.com/extracts/2616 An African revolution that needs noticing: 'The Chinese are the most voracious capitalists on the continent and trade between China and Africa is doubling every year.' I arrived in Sierra Leone in June 2005, at the height of th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Phillip Frank biblio

2006-01-15 Thread Waistline2
>>I'm also listening to Stevie Wonder's new album. My favorite is track 3, "Moon Blue"--it's killing me.<< Bravo for you . . . picked it up a couple of months ago. Great stuff. Been with Wonder since Fingertips part II and Castles in the Sand. His album Everts Rednow is still great and my mot

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] his mat and dia mat not identical

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
CB: Yes , they are different levels. That's why there are two different terms for them, not just one. There is not an identity between the terms "historical materialism" and "dialectical materialism" for a reason. The reason is there are two different levels, domains of knowledge , whatever. Engels

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] How many souls do Black Folk have? -This is crazy

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
>>CB: This is from the book _The Souls of Black Folk_. How many souls do Black folk have ? Two, one Black and one white.<< JF: >>I was going to bring up DuBois because Dr. King's thesis concerning the dual character of African-Americans was obviously drawn from DuBois's work, with which King wa

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Waistline: constantly contrary for the sake of being con...

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
WL: OK Charles but this is your individual understanding of the meaning of level. <> WL: Charles . . . you basically refuse to authenticate the things you write. Present the source material where of Marx and Engels speak of the materialist conception of history as one level of Marxism and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] How many souls do Black Folk have? -This is crazy

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
>>These black neocon "intellectuals"--most of whom are dumb shits, no, all of them--are taking big money to scapegoat the black poor, and they're not taking a holiday from it.<< Comment Much of this cramp from the black neo-con, I cannot stomach. Since WW II black America - if you will, has g

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Two souls, two cultures, two subcultures

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
>>CB; Mary, Mary quite contrary !Well, no it is not entirely ridiculous, if we think that there is some form of cultural and other customary differences between Black and white Americans. It is not ridiculous at all, when we consider Dubois' milieu and his audience, especially Black Folk, soul mus

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Mary, mary

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
CB; Naw, I basically quote Marx, Engels and Lenin as much or more as anybody. Your statement is pretty much false here. WL: We always arrive at this point Charles because you are from a different political group. You are no more than a continuation of the Negro Bourgeoisie and the black pe

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Spectre of Communism

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
The Specter of Communism Is Still Haunting Europe By Herwig Lerouge Fifteen years after being declared dead and buried, the specter of communism is again haunting the minds of some of Europe's political leaders. On February 24, 2005, the European Ministers of Justice were to discuss a common

[Marxism-Thaxis] Strategic Thought in fSU

2006-01-16 Thread Waistline2
Strategy and Tactics of the RCWP V.N. Chechensev The recognition of the realization of the symptoms of a revolutionary situation is something that vividly distinguishes revolutionary communists from opportunists. An opportunist, as a rule, does not get ready for a revolution. He might be read

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Mary, mary

2006-01-17 Thread Waistline2
<<>> WL: Of course we do or could not argue as such. >>>CB: Black Bottom up in this mother fucking emoticonical area. Ma Rainey's Black Bottom Summary & Essays - August WilsonMa Rainey's Black Bottom summary, essays, quotes, and pictures. www.enotes.com/ma-raineys/ - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Levels of organization

2006-01-17 Thread Waistline2
^ CB: The very fact that Engels et al use two different terms - historical materialism and materialist dialectics - means they are talking about two different levels of organization. WL: Really. Let me get this right before I am accused of distorting your utterances and being contrary. 1).

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Dialectical materialism

2006-01-17 Thread Waistline2
Here is the fun part. Marx is quoted as stating: "Merely quantitative differences, beyond a certain point, pass into qualitative changes." --Karl Marx, Capital, Vol. 1. This is translated as number two of the three laws of dialectics. "The three laws of dialectics are: *The law of th

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Dialectical materialism - What!

2006-01-17 Thread Waistline2
I wrote, for about the twentieth time over the past four years, in response to by dear friend and Comrade CB: >>It is not accurate to say that quantity or quantitative change turns into qualitative change and quality turns into quantity because this expresses only a perceptual understanding of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] [Historical Materialism]

2006-01-20 Thread Waistline2
>>>This rebellion of the productive forces, as they grow more and more powerful, against their quality as capital, this stronger and stronger command that their social character shall be recognized, forces the capital class itself to treat them more and more as social productive forces, so far as t

[Marxism-Thaxis] Nelson Peery - Southern White people as the National Question

2006-01-24 Thread Waistline2
>>I got a copy of Negro National Colonial Question. I have read it and it is quite interesting. I found his description of the 'anglo-american' minority in the Negro nation to be quite relevant to the situation here in the British occupied North of Ireland. I'm wondering if the concept of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nelson Peery - Southern White people as the National Que...

2006-01-25 Thread Waistline2
Nelson Peery Entering an Epoch of Social Revolution Including additional essays "Dialectics of the Leap and the Destruction of Capitalism" and... "Polarization in U.S. -- Basis for a Workers Party" http://www.scienceofsociety.org/texts/epoch/epoch.complete.html The above article from 1993 -

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Domains of knowledge, particular spheres; levels of orga...

2006-01-25 Thread Waistline2
>>>Well, this is Engel's conception of dialectics, but I don't buy his characterization of the inversion of the Hegelian dialectic. While concepts themselves involve abstraction from the real world (the inversion of idealism), it is not quite accurate to assert that dialectical laws are opera

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Domains of knowledge, particular spheres; levels of orga...

2006-01-25 Thread Waistline2
>>Hence, the mere assumption of an atheist or materialist position does not guarantee any sinecures for superior knowledge and insight. Any position can become ideological, and the determination of specific interconnections in any field of endeavor is guaranteed by no philosophical position.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Domains of knowledge, particular spheres; levels of orga...

2006-01-26 Thread Waistline2
WL: Where does Engels ground or implies that the materialist conception of history "grounds analysis of human society in its productive relations, because productive relations include our necessary activities . . . " ^ CB: Right here in the first sentence of what you quoted of him "The

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nelson Peery - Southern White people as the National Que...

2006-01-27 Thread Waistline2
>>What is the difference between 'the national question' and the 'racial' problem in America? I apologise genuinely if I have not framed these matters in a comprehensible manner. C << Reply Comrade, The framing of the national question and then the national colonial question from the stand

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cool_African_philosophy

2006-02-02 Thread Waistline2
>>The disputes on the talk page for this entry are not very productive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cool_%28African_philosophy%29 I can see "cool" in the black American cultural context, but to predicate an African philosophy of which it is a descendant smacks of crackpot afrocentric nons

Re: Miles, Bebop & Cool (Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Cool_African_philosophy)

2006-02-04 Thread Waistline2
>>Miles, bebop? I don't think so. He did play with Parker for bit but that was before be made himself into Miles. Bebop is high-voltage variations on chord changes, set up the melody with eight or 12 or 16 bars played in unison, then rapid fire solos, often escalating to flurries of 32d notes, ofte

[Marxism-Thaxis] October 1993

2006-02-04 Thread Waistline2
WORKERS OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE! FOR BOLSHEVISM INSIDE THE COMMUNIST AND WORKERS' MOVEMENT No.9 November 2003 CRIME OF THE CENTURY MARKING THE 10TH YEAR SINCE THE SHOOTING OF RUSSIA'S SUPREME SOVIET The events going back 10 years ago to September-October 1993 will always remain in the memory

[Marxism-Thaxis] gravedigger

2006-02-10 Thread Waistline2
>>Engels wrote: "This contradiction contains the germ of the whole of the social antagonisms of today." The point is clear: the widening and deepening of capitalist relations over time has turned capitalism into a near universal system, reduced nearly everything that humans desire to the cash

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split - 1st installment

2006-02-10 Thread Waistline2
The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split by Henry C.K. Liu The October Revolution of 1917 was launched on the slogan: ‘All Power to the Soviets’ through which the minority Bolsheviks won leadership in the Soviets, workers councils that constituted the power behind the new socialist g

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split

2006-02-10 Thread Waistline2
>>Marx's laws of motion declare that society progresses from feudalism to capitalism at the point when feudalism ceased to support the forces of production. In turn, capitalism gives way to socialism by the dictatorship of the proletariat once its productive potential has been fully exhausted r

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] gravedigger

2006-02-10 Thread Waistline2
WL: "A second observation is that the working class, because of its position in the system of social production, is the gravedigger of capitalism." This is impossible because the two basic classes of a social system cannot - are not free, to overthrow the system of which they constitute. It is i

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split/ Use-val...

2006-02-11 Thread Waistline2
CB: Things don't make social revolution. That's use-value commodity fetish revolutionism. People make social revolution.< WL: "That's use-value commodity fetish revolutionism." (?) Explain. Everything in human society presupposes the existence of human being as the first starting point of t

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split/ Use-val...

2006-02-11 Thread Waistline2
CB: Things don't make social revolution. That's use-value commodity fetish revolutionism. People make social revolution.< WL: "That's use-value commodity fetish revolutionism." (?) Explain. Everything in human society presupposes the existence of human being as the first starting point of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] gravedigger

2006-02-12 Thread Waistline2
CB: Modern Industrial(ization) revolutionarily combines labourers, removing them from their isolation in competition. . . . . the recent ( last thirty years) scattering of the industrial points of production of the U.S. is an anti-revolutionary process in terms of what it does to the U.S. prolet

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Causes and Effects of the Sino-Soviet Split - 1st in...

2006-02-12 Thread Waistline2
Henry C.K. Lui writes: >The October Revolution was an unexpected anomaly because geopolitical circumstances caused it to take place in a pre-industrial country the majority population of which was peasants rather than factory workers, and the main socio-economic conflict was between landlord an

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] gravedigger

2006-02-12 Thread Waistline2
CB: "Revolutionary" in the sense of one of the revolutions in the instruments of production that the bourgeoisie have been constantly making ever since they were bourgeoisie. Not "revolutionary" in the sense of a social revolution, because the steam engine did not result in the overthrow of ca

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