Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] YouTube - Chaka Khan's Night in Tunisia

2011-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:12:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: YouTube - Chaka Khan's Night in Tunisia _http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3818706/10453353_ (http://video.yahoo.com/watch/3818706/10453353) Reply Unbelievable. I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] YouTube - Chaka Khan's Night in Tunisia

2011-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:45:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, waistli...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 1/20/2011 2:12:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: YouTube - Chaka Khan's Night in Tunisia

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The end of the imperialist epoch

2011-01-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/18/2011 10:04:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31450@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Hear , hear, . . . . CB Thanks CB. The intent was a general summary agreeable of the broadest Marxist framework and divergent views of Lenin's meaning of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The end of the imperialist epoch

2011-01-15 Thread Waistline2
Historically, only capitalist countries which have intervened militarily to establish settler colonies or to set up puppet regimes to facilitate the exploitation of these territories by their own corporations and have been characterized as imperialist by Marxists and others. In a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Lougher: politics of insanity. if words have no meaning what is government?

2011-01-15 Thread Waistline2
There is a general rule about the way society treats criminals: place responsibility for antisocial acts on the individual, thus absolving society from blame. The mismatch between society's attitude toward heroes and criminals rests in society's claim of credit on heroes and rejection of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Bill Fletcher, Jr. Responding to the 'Letter to the Left Establishment'

2010-12-14 Thread Waistline2
Letter to the Left Establishment Bill Fletcher, Tom Hayden and The Letter === 1. Responding to the 'Letter to the Left Establishment' regarding Obama By Bill Fletcher, Jr. A so-called Letter to the Left Establishment critical of the Obama administration has been circulating for a

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Fate of a Cold War Vestige

2010-12-13 Thread Waistline2
On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:07 PM, c b wrote: ...It is something of a law of history that sooner or later all empires must collapse. ^ CB: See _Dialectics of Nature_ by Frederick Engels. _Everything_ has a beginning , middle and end. A mobius strip has none of those aspects. Nothing lasts

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] James Petras - The Democratic Party Debacle and the Dem...

2010-12-07 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/6/2010 12:58:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Lack of a Soviet Union contributes to this. The SU was more of the Center-Left's backbone than most of the left realized. Reply So very true. Petras time frame is 30

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stoop down, baby

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/1/2010 10:02:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYdZMoqD7U_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuYdZMoqD7U) Comment This is my understanding of the proletarian REVOLUTION. WL. Stoop down, baby Let your

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Stoop down, baby

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 12/1/2010 12:46:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, __rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:_rdum...@autodidactproject.org) _ (_mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) )writes: This is the funniest thing I remember you writing. I'm

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] At The Christmas Ball - the classic

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
The classic _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcuvlIgSj0Yfeature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcuvlIgSj0Yfeature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] At The Christmas Ball - the classic

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
This is the real shit. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj-zPVW_Hk_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stj-zPVW_Hk) “Everything for Christmas.” And “Love comes with Christmas” _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exmE_FyVFKAfeature=related_

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Charles Brown: Merry Christmas Baby Please Come Home F...

2010-12-01 Thread Waistline2
Lou Rawls Merry Christmas Baby with the historical big band sound is classic. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtw3lXjhujk_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtw3lXjhujk) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/28/2010 2:27:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: What you haven't done is make any coherent argument that would convince me that the substance has changed that much during the past 130 years. Of course there are

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-27 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/26/2010 8:20:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _pegdobb...@gmail.com_ (mailto:pegdobb...@gmail.com) writes: So am I to hope my children are less bamboozled by SW than we by SV? My son tells me Netflix is useful to him and has higher earnings(that's SV, right?) than USS

[Marxism-Thaxis] Marx on the proletariat as ruling class

2010-11-27 Thread Waistline2
What did Marx write on the prospect of political and economic transition between capitalist and communist society? Quote The question then arises: What transformation will the state undergo in communist society? In other words, what social functions will remain in existence there

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/22/2010 11:29:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: However, I will point out that a lot of the same things were said about the main players in 1907-8--that they were mysterious, behind-the-scenes people only acting out

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/22/2010 9:10:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Yes, the word predict is a bit crude, but the direction of capitalism as imperialism = finance capitalism and more and more concentration of wealth (monopoly) fulfills the trends that Lenin made

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
I agree that concentration and centralization of productive forces grow out of the inherent logic of industrial - electro-mechanical, reproduction. In the Soviet Union concentration and centralization of productive forces created expanding public wealth without centralization and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
Comment The property aspect of production relations (social relations of production with the property relations within) have NOT changed or what is the same, the wage labor form remains the wage labor form. Bourgeois private property remains bourgeois although this form of wealth is

[Marxism-Thaxis] shadow banking system

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
(The Federal Reserve chart is available at _www.ny.frb.org/research/staff_reports/sr458.pdf_ (http://www.ny.frb.org/research/staff_reports/sr458.pdf) ) Road map that opens up shadow banking By Gillian Tett Financial Times November 18 2010 This week, a senior banker friend gave me a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Homeless - 8,000 live in the Fl. woods

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0V2MdklcAEfeature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0V2MdklcAEfeature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to:

[Marxism-Thaxis] Homeless in America: the real stuff

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZpRcbgMGEgfeature=related_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZpRcbgMGEgfeature=related) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-22 Thread Waistline2
CB: I think Marx's position is that it is inherent to the logic of the capitalist mode of production, wage-labor/capital property relations, regardless of the technological regime. The computerization of production doesn't change this tendency to concentration of wealth. It accelerates it,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Did Vladimir Lenin Predict The Banking Disaster Of 2008?

2010-11-21 Thread Waistline2
Marx and Engels predicted cyclical crisis of capital, but never predicted when its outbreak would take place after their death. Neither did Lenin. Lenin's been dead for a while and did not predict the financial crisis - of 2008, as it jumped from big financial houses and accelerated

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, _waistli...@aol.com_ (mailto:waistli...@aol.com) wrote: If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. Without a prenuptual agreement ? Comment Yep. A million dollars not what it use to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/19/2010 9:23:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate gripes about taxes for a long time. The tax revolt of the 70's , California Howard Whathisname and

[Marxism-Thaxis] 2011 Contract talks

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
Link to article Bob King and 2011 _http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117_ (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or

[Marxism-Thaxis] Bob King and 2011 contract talks

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
Link to article Bob King and 2011 _http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117_ (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AG5XO20101117) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-18 Thread Waistline2
If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest. WL. In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] critique of the ideology of the Tea Party needed

2010-11-09 Thread Waistline2
full: _http://www.lrna.org/2-pt/articles/v20ed5art5.html_ (http://www.lrna.org/2-pt/articles/v20ed5art5.html) Small Government, Big State: Southern Program Points the Way It is conceivable that fascism could proceed as a movement to defend democracy and a return to the principles of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] We must dream!

2010-11-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/8/2010 1:01:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, _rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) writes: The other question in all this is, except for enhancing historical consciousness, what relevance any interpretation of Lenin has for today, and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tea Party

2010-11-08 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/8/2010 8:20:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Tea Party Election Results Diluted in Highly Populated States By Tom Moroney and Terrence Dopp - Nov 5, 2010 Tea Party supporters boasted of their 28 victories in U.S.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Glotta's commentaries

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/9/2010 2:03:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: In that way, they represent an alternative to my book, The Road to Hell is Not Paved With Good Intentions. I invite the reader/listener to enter the dialogue and join the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ron Glotta's commentaries

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/10/2010 8:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: In 1946, Crockett along with partners Ernest Goodman, Morton Eden, and Dean A. Robb, co-founded the corporation believed to be the first racially-integrated law firm in

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] I. I. Rubin's Essays on Marx's Theory of Value

2010-08-10 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 8/10/2010 10:34:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) : The capitalist economy represents a union of the material-technological process and its social forms, i.e. the totality of production relations among people. The concrete

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reform and social revolution: the new narrative - 1

2010-08-09 Thread Waistline2
Reform and social revolution: the new narrative Marxism contains a language, a set of words and terms accepted as short cuts. Problems arise with words and terms given different meaning. Reform, concession, social revolution, and reformism are such words. When these terms are detached

[Marxism-Thaxis] Reform and social revolution: the new narrative 2

2010-08-09 Thread Waistline2
IV. No matter how heroic their struggle and sacrifice, blacks could not gain any freedom as a mass and defeat legal segregation so long as a certain part of the economy was tied to the backwards means of production in labor intensive Southern agriculture. Mechanization of Southern

[Marxism-Thaxis] Dialectic of Reform: reform defined under the industrial epoch

2010-08-06 Thread Waistline2
Marxism contains a language, a set of terms accepted as short cuts in describing society and movement. Problems arise with words and terms that mean different things to different folks and groups using this language. Reform and concession is a case in point. When reform - as a logic or

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] James Allen Papers

2010-08-02 Thread Waistline2
James Allen was one of the better Marxist propagandist and top notch theoretical on the colonial and national question. To this day I enjoy his contributions. WL. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Corporate media downplays Gulf oil spill

2010-07-30 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/30/2010 3:29:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: As the comments of Crozier show, commentaries like those appearing in Time and the Washington Post drop any pretense of making an objective investigation. They are following the lead of BP and the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] (no subject)

2010-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/27/2010 5:26:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, erca...@yahoo.com writes: ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Labor aristocracy

2010-07-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/22/2010 8:49:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) : In Marxist theory, those workers (proletarians) in developed countries who benefit from the superprofits extracted from the impoverished workers of underdeveloped countries form

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: CB: Ok Isn't class antagonism you describe a conflict between the old division of labor and the new division of labor with the new division of labor arising based on

[Marxism-Thaxis] THE CAPITALISTIC CHARACTER OF MANUFACTURE

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: SECTION 5 THE CAPITALISTIC CHARACTER OF MANUFACTURE (Note: The title is extremely

[Marxism-Thaxis] Antagonism: a better definition (not edited)

2010-07-14 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism: Antagonism means the mutual resistance or active opposition of two opposing forces, physical or mental; active opposition to a force. Antagonism is a form of change resolution by annihilation and nullification, rather than harmonious stage by stage sublation. Antagonism as

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/12/2010 10:53:56 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Is the BP oil catastrophe the beginning of the conflict and then antagonism you refer to ? Reply No. The material quoted states: At a certain stage in their development

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat fro...

2010-07-13 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/13/2010 9:23:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; Doesn't Marx consider that capitalism _emerges_ in the manufacturing system ? _http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch14.htm#S5_

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Scope and Limits of Theory: Provisional Draft

2010-07-08 Thread Waistline2
Test ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

[Marxism-Thaxis] responses to law of value and meaning of proletariat from Marxism list

2010-07-07 Thread Waistline2
You are missing the point. Marx never wrote about the future communist society. He wrote about the Paris Commune because it was the inevitable first step in creating such a society. People who are accustomed to thinking in terms of the Civil War in France and State and Revolution spend

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Party of a New New Type

2010-07-05 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/5/2010 7:21:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: It even included the Leftist Lounge the biggest People's Party of a new type ever, at Bert's Marketplace (my yard). _http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/111370_

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why a Social Forum? Why Detroit?

2010-07-05 Thread Waistline2
This is a really good interview that ought to become part of a package of literature that is a post summary of the Social Forum - Detroit. The scale of this event was massive. each might of the event a couple of comrades and new people we met would gather at my home and go over all the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The US Social Forum: The Anti-Tea Party Experience

2010-07-04 Thread Waistline2
Fletchers summation of the USSF - Detroit, seemed pretty accurate in my experience as a participant, panelist, distributor of People’s Tribune and author of a small booklet: Detroit. The hard numbers on participants range from 15,000 to 20,000 as the result of the computers crashing after

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Back to Marx - part 1

2010-05-25 Thread Waistline2
I think that, today, we've come to a turning point in history. People are re-discovering Marx because he provides reserves of critical thought that are still pertinent to the problems of our times, but, of course, that is not enough. The Marxist tradition has not said much on the problems

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/18/2010 12:56:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: Actually, completely wrong. It came into widespread use after newly opened farmlands were quickly depleted by monocropping and lack of crop rotation. For cotton farming it became absolutely essential

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-17 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/16/2010 6:38:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: CIs and the UAW. Careful guys, this thread has a huge potential for self-humiliation built into it. Horses enabled the first stages of mechanization of agriculture.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-17 Thread Waistline2
Social relations are closely bound up with productive forces. In acquiring new productive forces men change their mode of production; and in changing their mode of production, in changing their way of earning a living, they change all their social relations. The hand mill gives you

[Marxism-Thaxis] End game: Part 4 on the Communist Internationals (UAW unions in real time)

2010-04-15 Thread Waistline2
End game The political battles waged by Marx and Engels to give the First International an outlook and program independent of all ideology of the propertied classes has been outlined and preserved as part of the Soviet Legacy in Marx and the Trade Unions. Marx and the Trade Unions, by

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Part 1 on the Communist Internationals

2010-04-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 4/12/2010 5:53:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _editor_revdem@ indiatimes. com_ (_mailto:editor_ (mailto:editor) _ _rev...@indiatime_ (mailto:rev...@indiatime) s.com) writes: Speech by Mátyás Rákosi, General Secretary of the Hungarian Communist Party at the Meeting of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Riddle of Antagonism: (still at work)

2010-04-06 Thread Waistline2
I CB: The new _quality_ in the productive forces is their greater and greater socialization of the laborers. Notice Marx refers to The shifts from steam to oil as a main fuel, or the shift to electricity, or the shift to computers and new forms of communication and transportation all

[Marxism-Thaxis] test

2010-04-01 Thread Waistline2
test ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] WL's glossary--a suggestion

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 7:36:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: Why don't we put up the latest version of this at googledocs and collaborate, 'wiki-style', on it? Then it could be published as a blog or wiki. Might prove after all that has been said that this

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] glossary--a suggestion

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 7:58:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Saw Marsha at Bert's and said I bet you know Waistline. She said definitely. Comment Check this out: _http://marshamusic.wordpress.com/_ (http://marshamusic.wordpress.com/) Marsha is

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective reform to revolution

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 8:53:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Tell 'em Dave Moore was a Marxist-Leninist. CB Reply The Dave Moore interviews in Political Affairs are magnificent. No one has really told the real story of the organization of Ford. Moore was

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] 7.0 - correction

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism as a form of resolution means it is not a form of resolution of contradiction. It is a form of resolution of property as this property form enters into contradiction with qualitatively changing productive forces. That is to say the contradiction is between productive forces

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] an·tag·o·nist

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/24/2010 9:34:31 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Well, a contradiction is sort of ripe to be superceded (sorry Althusser) when it is an antagonism. So, in this sense it is more _ready_ for resolution than a non-antagonistic contradiction. But

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] an·tag·o·nist Sorry Charlie , Just nailed it down

2010-03-24 Thread Waistline2
7.5 Antagonism: Antagonism is the basis of destruction and a form of transition to a new mode of production. It is a form of resolution of relations of production that have entered into collision with qualitatively changing productive forces. (see productive forces) In class

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:03:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; Strategy deals with the wide, the biggest context, the general. Strategy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy Comment I prefer Stalin's definition and both articles on Strategy and hold he

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Negation of the negation: let try this out

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:30:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: I'll have to see what else has been written on negation of negation that is usable. Engels' use of concept in dialectics of nature is total confusion and nonsense. I believe that

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:36:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB; What are more of the specifics of Stalin's approach ? Reply Check out his articles in the 1920's on strategy and tactic of Russian communist and Concerning the question of strategy and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Objective Subjective (object and subject):: object refers to everything outside the human mind or the subject as human. Reality, say a tree, an automobile or the sun has an objective existence outside the human mind or the life of the human mind, not requiring or owning its existence to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:01:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Lenin defines materialism as the belief in the existence of objective reality, objective reality being defined as you do above. Reply This mans go. This glossary is being produced under the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:28:37 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: My buddy, Bob King. Comment Bob's cool and at this point see himself as a one time president. He has invited all and anyone to come forth with new proposition on what to do in the fight

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective (object and subject):: correction

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 1:44:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, waistli...@aol.com writes: Let us march on til victory is won Proletarians Unite. Correction Let us march on til victory is one! Proletarians Unite. ___ Marxism-Thaxis

[Marxism-Thaxis] Role of the individual in history:

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
Role of the individual in history: Individuals have roles in life big and small. The concept of the “role of the individual” defines the place of the individual within the objective, material processes going on in the world, a country, their community and identifies his or her active role

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Objective Subjective (object and subject)::

2010-03-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/23/2010 2:11:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: Dave Moore: Carry on Reply Yep, that the flavor. You know more than you think. We simply have a different place in a division of labor. The things I cannot do I go on line and ask for

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] To Socialism! How?

2010-03-22 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/22/2010 8:13:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Strategy deals with the qualitative turns in the balance of forces that it is necessary to seek and the class and social forces and political trends and social movements

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic (OK Ra...

2010-03-21 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/19/2010 1:00:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: 5). At a certain stage of their development, 6). the material productive forces of society 7). come into conflict with the existing relations of production or – (this merely expresses the same

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ralph: Class antagonism ... the dialectic (OK Ralph) .

2010-03-20 Thread Waistline2
I have not looked at Bottomore's dictionary since giving it away in 2004. I will run to the bookstore and locate a copy and look at it. Anyone that publishes a Marxist glossary enters into extreme controversy with every single segment of the Marxist current. The most difficult aspect of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Contradiction, Antagonism, Dialectal materialism: (materialist dialectics)

2010-03-20 Thread Waistline2
Antagonism: Antagonism is the basis of destruction and transformation to a new quality. (see Dialectics: quantity, quality, the antagonistic element.) Contradiction: a conception of development and motion as internally necessary self movement of conflicting opposites. The unity and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Ralph: Class antagonism ... the dialectic (OK Ralph) .

2010-03-20 Thread Waistline2
According to Marx, the social contradiction which can only be resolved by revolution is that between the forces of production and the relations of production. The most common Marxist interpretation of this assertion is that forces of production means capital (sometimes our latter day

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] [marxistphilosophy] Historical-Critical Dictionary of Ma...

2010-03-20 Thread Waistline2
Quality and Quantity and Contradiction. Stalin argues that qualitative changes occur not accidentally but as the natural result of an accumulation of imperceptible and gradual quantitative changes.11 We should note that this is only one aspect of this category of dialectical logic. It is

[Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic (OK Ralph)

2010-03-19 Thread Waistline2
Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic : (exposition) The decay of feudalism and transition to capitalism shows two distinct form of change: class struggle as contradiction and class struggle as antagonism. I. Localized manual labor with the serf working the land for the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Ralph: Class antagonism ... the dialectic (OK Ralph) .

2010-03-19 Thread Waistline2
Comrade Ralph: A new Marxist glossary is being prepared. The last Marxist Glossary receiving large distribution in America was L. Harry Gould’s 1943 Glossary of Marxist Terms. A larger second edition was published in 1946 called Marxist Glossary and reprinted in the 1970’s by Proletarian

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic (OK Ra...

2010-03-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/19/2010 9:16:57 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: I. Localized manual labor with the serf working the land for the nobility provided the economic based for feudalism. The primary form of wealth is landed property. The political and social structures

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Class antagonism as class struggle: the dialectic (OK Ra...

2010-03-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/19/2010 10:20:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Is the difference between antagonism and contradiction that antagonism is irreconcilable, but contradiction is reconcilable ? There were some other new classes in the new bourgeois system

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Speaking of the disaffected...

2010-03-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/1/2010 8:20:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: CB: This doesn't seem to me to be hating on the CP. You are just saying some that is a fact. 1949-1955 is a period of most intense McCarthyism and criminalization of the CP Reply CB I try not

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Speaking of the disaffected...

2010-02-28 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/28/2010 2:36:15 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _farmela...@juno.com_ (mailto:farmela...@juno.com) writes: He wasn't really even a little capitalist, he was a wananbe at most. In reality, he was just another contract programmer, and as such, lacked the security and

[Marxism-Thaxis] demonstration at UAW headquarters Detroit

2010-02-26 Thread Waistline2
Monday 03/01/10 9 am - CAR CARAVAN TO SOLIDARITY HOUSE from UAW Local 22 has been cancelled. Please go directly to Solidarity House, 8000 E. Jefferson, Detroit, MI 48214 for 10 am Demonstration for Single Payer Health Care. Monday 03/01/10 9 am – MEETING WITH REPRESENTATIVE OF UAW

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Not everybody is on the same page

2010-02-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/23/2010 10:12:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _jann...@gmail.com_ (mailto:jann...@gmail.com) writes: Until health care is seen as a basic right of citizenship (or residence), the government can always deny it to this or that part of the population. These workers will

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Not everybody is on same page

2010-02-23 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/22/2010 12:48:30 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: Not everybody is on same page by: Sam Webb February 18 2010 tags: communists, strategy and tactics Let me begin with the obvious: the left (organized and unorganized) has seldom been of one

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Speaking of the disaffected...

2010-02-19 Thread Waistline2
I read this guys suicide letter and here is what he wrote in part. Instead I got busy working 100-hour workweeks. Then came the L.A. depression of the early 1990s. Our leaders decided that they didn't need the all of those extra Air Force bases they had in Southern California, so they

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Speaking of the disaffected...

2010-02-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/19/2010 1:57:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rdum...@autodidactproject.org writes: While other people are just as fucked up in their own ways, white people of this type have a peculiarly apolitical view of their own victimization. They can't see their situation as

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Tea Party Lights Fuse for Rebellion on Right

2010-02-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/18/2010 12:20:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, cb31...@gmail.com writes: As the meeting ended, Carolyn L. Whaley, 76, held up her copy of the Constitution. She carries it everywhere, she explained, and she was prepared to lay down her life to protect it from the likes of

[Marxism-Thaxis] The new narrative: History recast and the rise of a new proletarian movement

2010-02-18 Thread Waistline2
(speaking of trade unions as a percentage of the employed workers) As Mark Rickling replied on the LBO list: You'd call 36% 'very small' and 'trivial'? To which I added: Right - and it was as much a qualitative as a quantitative issue for the socialist movement. Marx and Engels and their

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Wiki Lenin

2010-02-17 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/16/2010 12:12:08 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, _rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) writes: There is remarkable objectivity about the Red Terror, an object of controversy in the discussion of this entry. Oddly, though, there is less

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] African-American History Month Program (2)

2010-02-17 Thread Waistline2
II. The first American Revolution of 1776 inaugurated the epoch of wars for national liberation as a form of history. Following on its heels was the Haitian Revolution and Bolivar. The wars of national liberation predate the doctrine of proletarian revolution and as a form of history

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] African-American History Month Program (4 5)

2010-02-17 Thread Waistline2
V. I want to try to be clear to avoid misunderstanding about what legal segregation actually meant. For 50 years - between 1920 and 1970, Detroit had an extra legal curfew imposed on the black where they had to be off the streets at sun down or risk being jailed and shot. It was extra

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] African-American History Month Program (4 5)

2010-02-17 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/17/2010 11:15:47 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, _rdum...@autodidactproject.org_ (mailto:rdum...@autodidactproject.org) writes: Like your presentation, but as usual, I wonder about your projections for the future: The destitute proletariat will tackle questions for

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] African-American History Month Program (3)

2010-02-17 Thread Waistline2
III. The Obama Presidency Real time America on February 16, 2010 is in a profound crisis. 150 million Americans feel stress over layoffs and paying their bills on time. Over 60 percent of Americans now live paycheck to paycheck. A record 20 million Americans qualified for unemployment

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