Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause - NY Times

2010-06-28 Thread c b
On 6/26/10, Ralph Dumain
 (Remember the theme song to the film Exodus? I was accustomed to
 hearing only Ferrante and Teicher's piano rendition. When I got hold of
 the sheet music, I learned that the theme had lyrics, and when I saw the
 verse This land is mine, God gave this land to me, I was appalled: I
 had never heard such a thing before, and had accepted the legitimacy of
 Israel as a product of the Holocaust without any crap about God in the
 mix. I don't recall any American Jews ever saying anything about God,
 though they were nominally religious.)


^^^
CB: With respect, Ralph, you didn't think a movie titled Exodus  had
any notion of God somewhere in it ?

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[Marxism-Thaxis] American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause - NY Times

2010-06-26 Thread Jim Farmelant


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/us/26religion.html

American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause
By SAMUEL G. FREEDMAN

One day nearly 20 years ago, Stephen Naman was preparing to help the
rabbi of his Reform Jewish temple in South Carolina move the congregation
into a new building. Mr. Naman had just one request: Could the rabbi stop
placing the flag of Israel on the altar? 

“We don’t go to synagogue to pray to a flag,” Mr. Naman, 63, recalled
having said in a recent telephone interview. 

That rabbi acceded to the request. So, after being transferred to North
Carolina and joining a temple there six or seven years later, Mr. Naman
asked its rabbi to remove the Israeli flag. This time, the reaction was
more predictable. 

“The rabbi said that would be terrible,” recounted Mr. Naman, a retired
paper company executive who now lives outside Jacksonville, Fla., “and
that he’d be embarrassed to be rabbi of such a congregation.” 

As shocking as Mr. Naman’s insistence on taking Israel out of Judaism may
seem, it actually adheres to a consistent strain within Jewish debate.
Whether one calls it anti-Zionism or non-Zionism — and all these terms
are contested and loaded — the effort to separate the Jewish state from
Jewish identity has centuries-old roots. 

For the past 68 years, that stance has been the official platform of the
group Mr. Naman serves as president of, the American Council for Judaism.
And while the establishment of Israel and its centrality to American Jews
consigned the council to irrelevancy for decades, the intense criticism
of Israel now growing among a number of American Jews has made Mr.
Naman’s group look significant, or even prophetic. 

It is not that members are flocking to the council. The group’s mailing
list is only in the low thousands, and its Web site received a modest
10,000 unique visitors in the last year. Its budget is a mere $55,000. As
Mr. Naman acknowledges, the council’s history of opposition to Zionism
renders it “radioactive” for even liberal American Jewish groups, like J
Street and Peace Now. 

Yet the arguments that the council has consistently levied against
Zionism and Israel have shot back into prominence over the last decade,
with the collapse of the Oslo peace process, Israel’s wars in Lebanon and
Gaza, and most recently the fatal attack on a flotilla seeking to breach
the naval blockade of the Hamas regime. One need not agree with any of
the council’s positions to admit that, for a certain faction of American
Jews, they have come back into style. 

“My sense is that they believe that events are proving they were right
all along,” Jonathan D. Sarna, a historian at Brandeis University and
author of the seminal book “American Judaism,” said in a telephone
interview. “Everything they prophesied — dual loyalty, nationalism being
evil — has come to pass.” 

“I would be surprised if vast numbers of people moved over to the A.C.J.
as an organization because of its reputation,” he continued. “But it’s
certainly the case that if the Holocaust underscored the problems of
Jewish life in the diaspora, recent years have highlighted the point that
Zionism is no panacea.” 

Mr. Naman grew up in a Texas family deeply involved in the council, and
as a result he has lived through the swings of the political pendulum. 

“We were ostracized and maligned,” he said. “But we felt back then, and
we feel now, that our positions are credible. They’ve been justified and
substantiated by what has occurred.” 

On that matter, to put it mildly, there is disagreement. If American
Zionists who oppose the West Bank occupation face withering criticism
from the conservative part of American Jewry, which has tended to
dominate the major communal and lobbying groups, then the unapologetic
foes of Zionism in the council are met with apoplexy and indignation. 

The rejection of Zion, though, goes back to the Torah itself, with its
accounts of the Hebrews’ rebelling against Moses on the journey toward
the Promised Land and pleading to return to Egypt. Until Theodore Herzl
created the modern Zionist movement early in the 20th century, the
biblical injunction to return to Israel was widely understood as a
theological construct rather than a pragmatic instruction. 

Most Orthodox Jewish leaders before the Holocaust rejected Zionism,
saying the exile was a divine punishment and Israel could be restored
only in the messianic age. The Reform movement maintained that Judaism is
a religion, not a nationality. 

“This country is our Palestine,” a Reform rabbi in Charleston, S.C., put
it in 1841, “this city our Jerusalem, this house of God our temple.” The
Reform movement’s 1885 platform dismissed a “return to Palestine” as a
relic akin to animal sacrifice. 

Only when the Reform leadership, on the eve of World War II, reversed
course did its anti-Zionist faction break away, ultimately forming the
council in 1942. Its discourse was simultaneously idealistic and
contemptuous — a proposed curriculum 

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause - NY Times

2010-06-26 Thread Ralph Dumain
An interesting factual account, but one is loathe to draw definitive 
conclusions from it. Coincidentally, a Pakistani Facebook friend 
recently posted a video called Judaism vs Zionism, featuring someone 
with an English accent contrasting Jewish ethics with the Zionist state. 
Such simple-minded reasoning clarifies little, and in fact promotes 
irrationalism rather than dispels it. There's a three-way conflation 
here between ethnicity, religion, and nationalism, and four-way when one 
adds biology to the mix.

There is also the argument of Shlomo Sand, that the concept of Jewry is 
a modern concept, that the Exile never happened, that there were mass 
conversions involved in the formation of the Jews in Europe (and 
elsewhere), and therefore that the actual ties of European Jews to 
ancient Judaea are spurious. Thus the founding Zionist myth is . . . a myth.

To argue for anything on any of these bases, against Zionism as well as 
for, defies logic. Additionally, there is an assumption that religious 
justifications and myths of origin played the decisive role in the 
formation of Zionism in the 19th century and a constant, unvarying role 
throughout its history, which, as the Stalinists and partisans of 
/other/ nationalisms would have it, was always and unvaryingly fueled by 
racialism and a master plan to drive out the Arab inhabitants of the 
region. Counter-myths are not necessarily more illuminating than myths. 
There is not a single point that was not already debated by Zionists 
themselves in the pre-Herzl period, not to mention anti-Zionists, more 
often on a secular than on a religious basis. And the rational and 
irrational components of pro-Zionist arguments have to be calibrated 
along a sliding scale, which can be done when we see what those 
arguments were, especially as Palestine was by no means a target of 
universal consensus in the early period.

We will learn more if we examine the conditions of 19th century Europe, 
esp. Eastern Europe, but also Central Europe, and look at what 
nation-building meant across the board among nationalities under the 
yoke of empires, in a world almost completely subject to empires and 
that by the end of the century would be completely subjugated, with 
nothing but empire in sight. We could also compare fantasies and schemes 
of colonization and resettlement among various peoples. One could, for 
example, examine 19th century black nationalism and compare it to 
Zionism before Zionism got anywhere so that it could be imitated or opposed.

Taking all this as a base, we can better understand the variations on 
the theme, and to what extent nationalist projects actually were 
underwritten by irrationalist ideologies like religion, racial theories, 
metaphysical idealism (German Romanticism), Social Darwinism, etc., and 
how much weight these ideologies had, among secular and religious 
components of the population.

What it takes to convince people of anything depends heavily on 
circumstances and options as well as ideologies, and sometimes it 
doesn't take much of a push to convince people of something. Which is 
why secularists and even people with little taste for nationalism (like 
Einstein) would turn to Zionism.  Another factor is that those far 
removed from a concrete situation may not even have the facts with which 
to justify the policies they are being sold. Religion, shmeligion, 
ancient homeland, shlomeland, between 1945 and 1967 the Holocaust was 
the only argument anyone needed to hear, and for American Jews at least 
the other elements played rationalizing supporting roles at best, at 
least as I remember the atmosphere of the early '60s.

(Remember the theme song to the film Exodus? I was accustomed to 
hearing only Ferrante and Teicher's piano rendition. When I got hold of 
the sheet music, I learned that the theme had lyrics, and when I saw the 
verse This land is mine, God gave this land to me, I was appalled: I 
had never heard such a thing before, and had accepted the legitimacy of 
Israel as a product of the Holocaust without any crap about God in the 
mix. I don't recall any American Jews ever saying anything about God, 
though they were nominally religious.)

On 6/26/2010 8:44 AM, Jim Farmelant wrote:

 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/26/us/26religion.html

 American Jews Who Reject Zionism Say Events Aid Cause
 By SAMUEL G. FREEDMAN

 One day nearly 20 years ago, Stephen Naman was preparing to help the
 rabbi of his Reform Jewish temple in South Carolina move the congregation
 into a new building. Mr. Naman had just one request: Could the rabbi stop
 placing the flag of Israel on the altar?

 We don't go to synagogue to pray to a flag, Mr. Naman, 63, recalled
 having said in a recent telephone interview.

 That rabbi acceded to the request. So, after being transferred to North
 Carolina and joining a temple there six or seven years later, Mr. Naman
 asked its rabbi to remove the Israeli flag. This time, the reaction was
 more