Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-16 Thread Chris Burford
] To: marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia | | | Well I was only in Berlin and Charlie, I guess, was not there either. | | Thanks for clarifying the conventional spelling of the name of | Herodotus | in English. I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-13 Thread steiger2001
, The Netherlands. Thanks for information. Stephen Steiger, Prague  __ Od: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Komu: Datum: 12.08.2008 23:38 Předmět: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia http://www.driftline.org/cgi-bin/archive

[Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Brown
Well I was only in Berlin and Charlie, I guess, was not there either. Thanks for clarifying the conventional spelling of the name of Herodotus in English. I was really skimming through that part of the exhibition, and it was rather post-modernist in flavour. What I am certain of, is that German

[Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Brown
Chris you asked: Can anyone point to previous contributions on the Asiatic mode of production on this list? See below Marxism-Thaxis] Preface Charles Brown cbrown at michiganlegal.org Thu Oct 20 06:58:04 MDT 2005 Previous message: [Marxism-Thaxis] Bourgeois property seminar Next

[Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-12 Thread Charles Brown
http://www.driftline.org/cgi-bin/archive/archive_msg.cgi?file=spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1996/96-12-15.193msgnum=94start=7182end=7286 File spoon-archives/marxism-thaxis.archive/marxism-thaxis_1996/96-12-15.193, message 94 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:54:08 -0500 (EST)

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-11 Thread cburford
Well I was only in Berlin and Charlie, I guess, was not there either. Thanks for clarifying the conventional spelling of the name of Herodotus in English. I was really skimming through that part of the exhibition, and it was rather post-modernist in flavour. What I am certain of, is that German

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-11 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 11, 2008, at 3:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...What I am certain of, is that German scholars, under the eye of colleagues from the Louvre and the British Museum, would not assert that the claims of Herodotus about sexual practices in the middle east, are unsubstantiated, if they

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-11 Thread CeJ
CBurford:The Bible, both old and new testaments, (but not the Jewish Talmud) supports that sectarian disrespect and justifies it in stories of the underdog, needing protection from the monster Oh please, Talmudic Judaism is as capable of sectarian disrespect as any other religion. CJ

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-10 Thread CeJ
I found some of the discussion at the link below about in what senses Marx is a materialist interesting because they agree with what I was earlier thinking (out loud) about the appeal of Marx to Althusser. The structuralists were overall materialist and behaviourist but quickly rejected most forms

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread cburford
Good to hear from you again Charles, and to read other members. But it is difficult to keep up with more than one or two lists regularly. The theme of my post was arguably connected, even though indirectly, with other themes we have discussed. In addition to what I noted below the exhibition in

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 9, 2008, at 3:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing confirms the allegations of Heroditus about the sexual practices of Babylonia. He had political motives to denigrate an empire from the middle east that had almost conquered Greece. Herodotus reported what he saw and was told

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread CeJ
The Persian punitive expedition had notable Greek allies, especially the Thebans and Ephesians. The most successful Persian naval commander was a Greek, Queen Artemisia. What treachery! But we all deep down know that the Greeks collectively and heroically defended (to the last man if

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread CeJ
I'm not sure if the late Mark Jones' discussion adds much to this, but it does point an obsession with irrigation. http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/10/131.html Ancient Mesopotamia was to quite an extent a lot wetter than the current-day Iraq, so no wonder some have said it was 'Eden'. Still,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread CeJ
Oops, that was sloppy. I should add that all that following the link to the Jones article is my commentary, nothing from Jones's article. I published only the link. Read it--the Jones article--it is more interesting than my comments. CJ ___

[Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-07 Thread cburford
The Asiatic mode of production has probably been discussed several times on this list. If so apologies for missing it. Yesterday I attended an exhibition in Berlin entitled Babylon, which brings together the evidence often plundered, sometimes gathered, and stored in the Louvre, the British

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-07 Thread Charles Brown
Hello , Chris, long time , old comrade ! Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/2008 2:16 AM The Asiatic mode of production has probably been discussed several times on this list. If so apologies for missing it. Yesterday I attended an exhibition in Berlin entitled Babylon, which brings together the