>> Charles, you know that Lukacs placed this book outside and said it did
Marxism more harm than benefit.
Dogan <<
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Your judgement, as best I can tell, has appealed to my sensibility over the
years. Specifically, you tend to place things in a historical context and
experienc
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>Di., 3. Jul. 2007, 14:03 Thema: [Marxism-Thaxis]
>Cornel West & Marxism (8) Ralph Dumain Chapter 6
>is on Lukacs, particularly HISTORY AND CLASS ONSCIOUSNESS
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Ralph Dumain Chapter 6 is on Lukacs, particularly HISTORY AND CLASS
CONSCIOUSNESS
and particularly the essay on reification. First West summarizes
Hegel's notion of dialectic. Then he shows how Lukacs' Marxian
dialectic differs, and emphasizes that it applies only to history and
society, n
Chapter 6 is on Lukacs, particularly HISTORY AND CLASS CONSCIOUSNESS
and particularly the essay on reification. First West summarizes
Hegel's notion of dialectic. Then he shows how Lukacs' Marxian
dialectic differs, and emphasizes that it applies only to history and
society, not nature. Marxist
>> CB: Today, we have a much better basis for describing human species-being
because of the studies of scientific cultural and biological anthropology.
Anthropology has become a key to a theory of history and social analysis. <<
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Agreed and this is not to say that all human interacti
Frederick Engels
Ludwig Feuerbach and the End of Classical German Philosophy
Part 1: Hegel
hegel
The volume before us (1) carries us back to a period which, although in time
no more than a generation behind us, has becom
I'm still trying to catch up, and doing a million things at once.
The problem is, I can't remember the conversation. I don't think there's
any written trace of it; I believe it was a verbal conversation. It has to
do with the implications of rational = actual/real, whether this notion is
conse
(130) The basis of moral law, pace Kant, is an instinct for equality.
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CB: This is the principle underlying _The Manifesto of the Communist Party_.
Oppressed classes always struggle because its instinctive for humans to be
treated equally by other humans. This gives rise to an ahistoric
But there's much less to do on in claiming that Engels' view of
morality really differs from Marx's. In a non-"philosophical" sense of the
term, it is likely that Marx believed in moral progress, at least
potentially if not in actuality. And it is not clear from the citations
alone that Enge
For Feuerbach,
anthropology or philosophy of abstract man is the secret of theology; for
Marx, a theory of history and a social analysis is the secret of
anthropology.
^^
CB: Today, we have a much better basis for describing human species-being
because of the studies of scientific cult
West finds the Theses on Feuerbach to be the decisive turning point in
Marx's thought.
Commenting on thesis 2, West states:
quote:
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Marx holds at arm's length the traditional theories of truth in philosophy,
namely, the correspondence and coherence theories of truth. The do
Just a personal note here, for those of you who remember Lisa Rogers. I
think West's book was one of the last Lisa read before her sudden
death. She discussed it with me vaguely. But I do remember that we
discussed the opening argument of Engels in LUDWIG FEUERBACH and whether it
did not i
James Boggs' "The American revolution: Pages from a Negro Workers Notebook."
http://www.boggscenter.org/books/amer_revo/racism_class.html
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> A question for you, Charles Brown, Ralph Dumain,
> or anyone else familiar with the ways African Ame
A question for you, Charles Brown, Ralph Dumain,
or anyone else familiar with the ways African Americans have
experienced (and out of necessity, reformulated) Marxism/socialism.
Some time ago, I stumbled across some reading (something by the late
James Boggs, I think) that argued that the Afric
There is always the risk of being misunderstood. One can simply be wrong or
need to deepen and explain a thesis to take into account other critique. Such
is my experience.
Specifically, I happen to think and believe that Professor West is basically
a bourgeois social democrat and player am
To recap what we have so far: Marx has been mischaracterized as a "radical
historicist". He rejected the notion of morality altogether. Note however
that Marx also asserted that "Right" can rise no higher than the capacities
of any society allows. Hence no assertions about morality can be
mad
Waistline said:
"Baldwin, an ugly man . . . . the nigga was �ugly, �. . .
and herein lies his beauty, that took us - �a people and then country, to the
next community understanding of �complexity.
and only niggas in America can do this."
-- bravo, Waistline! A question for you, Charles Brown,
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1. I enjoyed Ralph's discussion of this. More than anything it told me
my initial hunch of trying to avoid Cornel West as much as possible
was right. It is that sort of 'know nothingness' that Rorty always
smacks of that makes me run for the exits.
2. More on Feuerbach a bit later.
3. I can't he
> You once mentioned that West told you his white colleagues viewed him as a
"nigger who reads Kant." I wasn't there, but this turn of phrase aroused my
suspicions. I could only wonder if that's how his colleagues viewed him,
or how he viewed himself. But maybe it's also how _you_ think of
It is entirely possible that I am a bad writer, and/or that your reading
comprehension skills leave something to be desired. Either way, let me recap.
The questions I pose are not my own: they are criticisms that others have
raised about Baldwin's work. I put them as rhetorical questions: if we
What an interesting series or more accurately, a potentially interesting
series. .
I did reread - for perhaps the fifth time, "CORNEL WEST'S EVASION OF
PHILOSOPHY, OR, RICHARD WRIGHT'S REVENGE," and still feel the "key" to
understanding
Wright and Baldwin resides in a better understandin
Continuing chapter 4, on Engels: West first offers a few quotes from
_Anti-Duhring_ documenting Engels' belief that there is historical progress
in morality. I will only quote a fraction of one of these quotes, which I
think is directly relevant to West's subsequent assertions
quote from Engel
It is worthwhile quoting the introductory to chapter 4 in full:
quote:
The major Marxist approaches to ethics bear the historicist stamp. They
deny the existence of an Archimedian point from which to adjudicate rival
ethical judgments, they accent the fleeting character of m
Finally, West analyzes Marx's fully developed "radical historicism" in THE
GERMAN IDEOLOGY. In the middle of this he takes a detour to summarize Max
Stirner's radical psychologism in THE EGO AND HIS OWN as it marks a crucial
step in the evolution of Left Hegelian thought and the last hurdle Marx
In the late '70s, Cornel West is both a skilled analyst and a sly little
weasel. It's a shame only the weasel survived.
West is most impressed by the 6th and 7th thesis on Feuerbach.
quote:
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These two theses constitute Marx's celebrated rejection of the doctrine of
essential
This is an admittedly fragmented way of approaching a review, but I want to
begin by isolating passages (not including the foreword) that disturb me.
West is discussing Marx's 1844 mss.
"And why is Feuerbach so important? Precisely because he provides Marx with
a conception of philosophy (and e
Ralph wrote concerning West:
"Furthermore, the language he falls back at crucial junctures on smacks
of pragmatism, and his focusing on anti-foundationalism occasionally
skews his analysis in the same direction."
As I am sure that Ralph is well aware, Cornel West has long been an
admirer of the y
As much as I hate to admit it, I'm finding Cornel West's THE ETHICAL
DIMENSIONS OF MARXIST THOUGHT a worthwhile read. A critique of this work
must fall into two parts, in reference to:
(a) West's preface written for the 1991 publication of this book,
(b) the work itself, written in the late 197
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