Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma
The same sort of things got said about SLs (which made loans to urban neighborhoods) and junk bonds (which were used to finance government and business in urban neighborhoods). CJ CB: I didn't know this. Did you ever look at that _The Creature from Jekyll Island_ which was written in 1994 and has a chapter saying bailouts are the name of the game , effectively predicting the big recent bailout ? ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, _waistli...@aol.com_ (mailto:waistli...@aol.com) wrote: If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. Without a prenuptual agreement ? Comment Yep. A million dollars not what it use to be. Fed taxes on lottery money is about 30% so a million almost instantly becomes $700,000. If there is a 3% state tax . . . $670,000. The various anti-taxes currents amongst a section of the proletariat have a point. A house, furniture, car and a couple of trips to the theater and then the families . . . and hey. . .. $500,000, maybe $450,000. Both of us probably have some kind of debt. If it is a student loan the feds are hitting the money before you get it. It is best to do Vegas or the vacation of your choice real quick, because the money is going to go quicker. Once married divide the $450,000 between each other and try to stay together the first 90 days. At that point we both have say $250,000 or $225,000. If both of us have shitty jobs, we are subject to have no job 36 months from now. A million dollars today will not save one from the proletarian bounce between economic layers. Makes one want to stay on the farm. Wait, I forget. The farm was lost a long time ago. WL. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:59 AM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, _waistli...@aol.com_ (mailto:waistli...@aol.com) wrote: If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. Without a prenuptual agreement ? Comment Yep. A million dollars not what it use to be. Fed taxes on lottery money is about 30% so a million almost instantly becomes $700,000. If there is a 3% state tax . . . $670,000. The various anti-taxes currents amongst a section of the proletariat have a point. Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate gripes about taxes for a long time. The tax revolt of the 70's , California Howard Whathisname and all, hijacked proletarian legitimate tax complaints. Reaganite propaganda misdirected this sentiment among middle incomed workers against low incomed workers, the poor, as anti-Welfare politics A house, furniture, car and a couple of trips to the theater and then the families . . . and hey. . .. $500,000, maybe $450,000. Both of us probably have some kind of debt. If it is a student loan the feds are hitting the money before you get it. It is best to do Vegas or the vacation of your choice real quick, because the money is going to go quicker. Once married divide the $450,000 between each other and try to stay together the first 90 days. At that point we both have say $250,000 or $225,000. If both of us have shitty jobs, we are subject to have no job 36 months from now. A million dollars today will not save one from the proletarian bounce between economic layers. Makes one want to stay on the farm. Wait, I forget. The farm was lost a long time ago. WL. ^ CB: Let me have the million and I'll have a better shot at it. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
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In a message dated 11/19/2010 9:23:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate gripes about taxes for a long time. The tax revolt of the 70's , California Howard Whathisname and all, hijacked proletarian legitimate tax complaints. Reaganite propaganda misdirected this sentiment among middle incomed workers against low incomed workers, the poor, as anti-Welfare politics. Reply Got that right brother. One cannot find even Marxists talking about welfare, and the immediate need to defend and expand it, outside our geographic area. Really. If one looks through the various socialist, communists and Marxist online press and articles welfare is hardly mentioned and it should be up front along with unlimited unemployment compensation - at least until the economy recovers, which is not going to happen. The restoration of profitability for most corporations will not translate into employment, and this is qualitatively different. The social consequences of revolution in the means of production is talking its toil in the context of a cyclical crisis of capital. Or rather, this cyclical crisis of overproduction is talking its toil in the context of a qualitatively new revolution in the means of production shoving ever widening layers of wage labors out of the market . . . absolutely. Detroit was at the front of the curve and now the social consequences are being felt in all areas of the country. Reagan success was based in painting welfare as a black thing; the ole welfare queen. The unemployment today and housing crisis is so widespread it cannot be painted a black issue. This is favorable to us. The historic color factor is unraveling as the social position of the white workers is destabilized and unraveled in layers. At least we can begin the beginning fight for a class point of view. This narrative is left to you and I, as the enrichment of American history. Yea, you would probably handle a million bucks a lot better than I. I've been pretty stupid with money, women and drink. WL. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
[Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma
When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar cash prize if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was his dough that made that shit happen, right? LikeUnlike · Comment * * * o Would you give the girl half the money if she bought you the tickets, you made the shot? ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
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If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest. WL. In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar cash prize if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was his dough that made that shit happen, right? LikeUnlike · Comment * * * o Would you give the girl half the money if she bought you the tickets, you made the shot? This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from _http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm_ (http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas and get married. Or Ohio. Without a prenuptual agreement ? After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest. WL. In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com) writes: When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar cash prize if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was his dough that made that shit happen, right? LikeUnlike · Comment * * * o Would you give the girl half the money if she bought you the tickets, you made the shot? This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from _http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm_ (http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis