Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-22 Thread c b
 The same
 sort of things got said about SLs (which made loans to urban
 neighborhoods) and junk bonds (which were used to finance government
 and business in urban neighborhoods).

 CJ



CB: I didn't know this. Did you ever look at that _The Creature from
Jekyll Island_ which was written in 1994 and has a chapter  saying
bailouts are the name of the game , effectively predicting the big
recent bailout ?

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM,  _waistli...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:waistli...@aol.com)  wrote: 
 
If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas 
 and get married. 
 
Or Ohio. 
 
Without a prenuptual agreement ? 
 

Comment 
 
Yep. 
 
A million dollars not what it use to be. 
 
Fed taxes on lottery money is about 30%  so a million almost  instantly 
becomes $700,000. If there is a 3% state tax  . . . $670,000. The  various 
anti-taxes currents amongst a section of the proletariat have  a  point. 
 
A house, furniture, car and a couple of trips to the theater and then  the 
families  . . . and  hey. . .. $500,000, maybe $450,000. Both  of us 
probably have some kind of debt. If it is a student loan the feds are  hitting 
the 
money before you get it. 
 
It is best to do Vegas or the vacation of your choice real quick, because  
the money is going to go quicker. 
 
Once married divide the $450,000 between each other and try to stay  
together the first 90 days. At that point we both have say $250,000 or 
$225,000. 
 
If both of us have shitty jobs, we are subject to have no job 36 months  
from now. A million dollars today will not save one from the proletarian  
bounce between economic layers. Makes one want to stay on the farm. 
 
Wait, I forget. The farm was lost a long time ago. 
 
WL.
 
 

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread c b
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:59 AM,  waistli...@aol.com wrote:
 On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM,  _waistli...@aol.com_
 (mailto:waistli...@aol.com)  wrote:

 If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas
  and get married.

 Or Ohio.

 Without a prenuptual agreement ?


 Comment

 Yep.

 A million dollars not what it use to be.

 Fed taxes on lottery money is about 30%  so a million almost  instantly
 becomes $700,000. If there is a 3% state tax  . . . $670,000. The  various
 anti-taxes currents amongst a section of the proletariat have  a  point.


Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate
gripes about taxes for a long time. The tax revolt of the 70's ,
California Howard Whathisname and all, hijacked proletarian legitimate
tax complaints. Reaganite propaganda misdirected this sentiment among
middle incomed workers against low incomed workers, the poor, as
anti-Welfare politics


 A house, furniture, car and a couple of trips to the theater and then  the
 families  . . . and  hey. . .. $500,000, maybe $450,000. Both  of us
 probably have some kind of debt. If it is a student loan the feds are  
 hitting the
 money before you get it.

 It is best to do Vegas or the vacation of your choice real quick, because
 the money is going to go quicker.

 Once married divide the $450,000 between each other and try to stay
 together the first 90 days. At that point we both have say $250,000 or 
 $225,000.

 If both of us have shitty jobs, we are subject to have no job 36 months
 from now. A million dollars today will not save one from the proletarian
 bounce between economic layers. Makes one want to stay on the farm.

 Wait, I forget. The farm was lost a long time ago.

 WL.


^

CB: Let me have the million and I'll have a better shot at it.

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 11/19/2010 9:23:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com)  writes: 
 

Truly ! It is the American working class that has had legitimate gripes  
about taxes for a long time. The tax revolt of the 70's , California Howard  
Whathisname and all, hijacked proletarian legitimate tax complaints. 
Reaganite  propaganda misdirected this sentiment among middle incomed workers 
against low  incomed workers, the poor, as anti-Welfare politics. 
 
Reply 
 
Got that right brother. One cannot find even Marxists talking about  
welfare, and the immediate need to defend and expand it, outside our geographic 
 
area. 
 
Really. 
 
If one looks through the various socialist, communists and Marxist online  
press and articles welfare is hardly mentioned and it should be up front 
along  with unlimited unemployment compensation - at least until the economy 
recovers,  which is not going to happen. The restoration of profitability for 
most  corporations will not translate into employment, and this is 
qualitatively  different. The social consequences of revolution in the means of 
production is  talking its toil in the context of a cyclical crisis of capital. 
Or rather, this  cyclical crisis of overproduction is talking its toil in the 
context of a  qualitatively new revolution in the means of production 
shoving ever widening  layers of wage labors out of the market . . . 
absolutely. 
Detroit was at the  front of the curve and now the social consequences are 
being felt in all areas  of the country. 
 
Reagan success was based in painting welfare as a black thing; the ole  
welfare queen. The unemployment today and housing crisis is so widespread it  
cannot be painted a black issue. This is favorable to us. The historic 
color  factor is unraveling as the social position of the white workers is  
destabilized  and unraveled in layers. At least we can begin the beginning  
fight for a class point of view. 
 
This narrative is left to you and I, as the enrichment of American history. 
 
Yea, you would probably handle a million bucks a lot better than I.  

I've been pretty stupid with money, women and drink. 
 

WL.
 
 

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[Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-18 Thread c b
When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to
attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar
cash prize if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was
his dough that made that shit happen, right?
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the tickets,  you made the shot?

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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-18 Thread Waistline2
If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas 
 and get married. 
 
Or Ohio. 
 
After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest. 
 
WL. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com)  writes: 
 
When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to  
attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar cash prize  
if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was his dough that made 
 that shit happen, right? LikeUnlike · Comment 
 
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 you made the shot?
 
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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Moral dilemma

2010-11-18 Thread c b
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM,  waistli...@aol.com wrote:
 If it was me making the million dollar shot, I would say, lets go to Vegas
  and get married.

 Or Ohio.

Without a prenuptual agreement ?



 After all, if she invited me on a date, it means their is an interest.

 WL.







 In a message dated 11/18/2010 9:29:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
 _cb31...@gmail.com_ (mailto:cb31...@gmail.com)  writes:

 When a guy buys tickets for a basketball game and invites his girl to
 attend, isn't it fair that he gets at least 50% of a million dollar cash prize
 if his girl drains the free shot from half court? It was his dough that made
  that shit happen, right? LikeUnlike · Comment

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 *
 * o Would you give the girl half the money if she bought you  the tickets,
  you made the shot?

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