M-TH: wouldabeen nice to talk about, eh?

1999-12-02 Thread Hugh Rodwell
Rob whinges: Whilst I obviously tend to Simon's general point of view (although I'm closer to Hugh on the finance/'productive capital' question) - and I do find it strange to be considered 'pb' when we own nothing, 'parasites' when we ask nothing, 'offering blueprints' when that is precisely

Re: M-TH: wouldabeen nice to talk about, eh?

1999-12-02 Thread r.i.p
Wouldn't it be nice if Hugh were right? It's called an upsurge In your dreams. No cauldron about to explode- this is just a tempest in a teapot- the last fart of hippydom whinging about selected contradictions of capital and hoping that street theatre and letters to Clinton are going to

Re: M-TH: Re: Meszaros article: Communism Is No Utopia

1999-12-02 Thread Charles Brown
"The World Socialist movement (via The Socialist Party of Great Marx disavowed this 1848 solution a couple of decades later: already he considered the barricade/ dictatorship of the proletariat route to be past its sell by date in europe. ((( Charles: What is your evidence of this

M-TH: China and AFL-CIO

1999-12-02 Thread Charles Brown
A forward. CB (( Subject: WTO - Sweeney - China Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:52:50 +0100 Encoding: 38 TEXT With Europe in the bag after its involvement in the Yugoslavia attack, the front of advancing empire has switched to the West. Tomorrow, in the U.S. city of Seattle on the

Re: M-TH: wouldabeen nice to talk about, eh?

1999-12-02 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Hugh, What Rob is describing in Seattle is what Bob M and me have been describing in Sweden, and what me and Bob and Dave have been going on about for years now. You go on about it during the recess breaks between retreads of the ol' 'I'm a good bolshie, you're a bad pb menshie, and all

Re: M-TH: Historical vs Dialectical materialism.

1999-12-02 Thread r.i.p
Towards this, I suggest a debate on the real issue behind all of this - historical materialism vs dialectical materialism. Only the former can be found in Marx's writings. Russ __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

M-TH: Re: wouldabeen nice to talk about, eh?

1999-12-02 Thread Hugh Rodwell
RIP from the tomb intones: Wouldn't it be nice if Hugh were right? (It *is*, Russ...) It's called an upsurge In your dreams. No cauldron about to explode- this is just a tempest in a teapot- the last fart of hippydom whinging about selected contradictions of capital and hoping that street

M-TH: Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Doug Henwood
I've been posting reports from Seattle to the LBO website http://www.panix.colm/~dhenwood/Seattle.html. Fresh material has just arrived. Doug Henwood Left Business Observer 250 W 85 St New York NY 10024-3217 USA +1-212-874-4020 voice +1-212-874-3137 fax email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] web:

M-TH: Marx at Seattle

1999-12-02 Thread Chris Burford
Despite the openly declared attacks on world capitalism, I have heard no reports yet of pictures of Marx among the demonstrators at Seattle. Perhaps his followers have not done enough to link the law of value with global economic conditions. Marx himself suggested a more insidious and

M-TH: Reject Australia's racist laws on refugees

1999-12-02 Thread Bullimore / Kim Maree (COM)
Comrades, The Howard government in Australia, with the support of the Labor Party have just past the most draconian and harshest refugee laws anywhere in the world in the form of the Border Protection Bill. In Australia, mandatory detention extends to children (including those born in detention)

Re: M-TH: China and LOV

1999-12-02 Thread Dave Bedggood
You shoudnt be so sensitive Rob. My post was directed to Simon and his World Socialism. If you identify with this current that's your problem. By the way pb covers those like you and me who own their own tools of intellectual trade. Parasitism? Depends what you do with the state pay check.

M-TH: What is going on in Seattle?

1999-12-02 Thread Bob Malecki
See a fray has broken out on this stuff. From here lots of pictures about demos and martial law. But what is the politics of all this stuff. I see glimpses of protectionism as being the bottom line in all of this. And a bit of green hysteria. So I tend to think that Hugh is over