Rob whinges:
Whilst I obviously tend to Simon's general point of view (although I'm
closer to Hugh on the finance/'productive capital' question) - and I do
find it strange to be considered 'pb' when we own nothing, 'parasites' when
we ask nothing, 'offering blueprints' when that is precisely
Wouldn't it be nice if Hugh were right?
It's called an upsurge
In your dreams.
No cauldron about to explode- this is just a tempest in a teapot- the last
fart of hippydom whinging about selected contradictions of capital and
hoping that street theatre and letters to Clinton are going to
"The World Socialist movement (via The Socialist Party of Great
Marx disavowed this 1848 solution a couple of decades later:
already he considered the barricade/ dictatorship of the proletariat route
to be past its sell by date in europe.
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Charles: What is your evidence of this
A forward.
CB
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Subject: WTO - Sweeney - China
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:52:50 +0100
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With Europe in the bag after its involvement in the Yugoslavia attack, the
front of advancing empire has switched to the West.
Tomorrow, in the U.S. city of Seattle on the
G'day Hugh,
What Rob is describing in Seattle is what Bob M and me have been describing
in Sweden, and what me and Bob and Dave have been going on about for years
now.
You go on about it during the recess breaks between retreads of the ol'
'I'm a good bolshie, you're a bad pb menshie, and all
Towards this, I suggest a debate on the real issue behind all of this -
historical materialism vs dialectical materialism.
Only the former can be found in Marx's writings.
Russ
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RIP from the tomb intones:
Wouldn't it be nice if Hugh were right?
(It *is*, Russ...)
It's called an upsurge
In your dreams.
No cauldron about to explode- this is just a tempest in a teapot- the last
fart of hippydom whinging about selected contradictions of capital and
hoping that street
I've been posting reports from Seattle to the LBO website
http://www.panix.colm/~dhenwood/Seattle.html. Fresh material has
just arrived.
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Despite the openly declared attacks on world capitalism, I have heard no
reports yet of pictures of Marx among the demonstrators at Seattle.
Perhaps his followers have not done enough to link the law of value with
global economic conditions.
Marx himself suggested a more insidious and
Comrades,
The Howard government in Australia, with the support of the Labor Party
have just past the most draconian and harshest refugee laws anywhere in
the world in the form of the Border Protection Bill.
In Australia, mandatory detention extends to children (including those
born in detention)
You shoudnt be so sensitive Rob.
My post was directed to Simon and his World Socialism.
If you identify with this current that's your problem.
By the way pb covers those like you and me who own their own tools of
intellectual trade.
Parasitism? Depends what you do with the state pay check.
See a fray has broken out on this
stuff.
From here lots of pictures about demos and martial
law. But what is the politics of all this stuff. I see glimpses of protectionism
as being the bottom line in all of this. And a bit of green hysteria. So I tend
to think that Hugh is over
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