Re: SV: M-TH: Chechnya - the revolutionary answer

1999-11-11 Thread r.i.p





Well I am hardly with Dave or Chris on this stuff. Positive to self 
determination but defeatist between Moscow and the Islamic Fundamentalists. 
However Rob raises and interesting question in that the west who have 
"supported" Yeltsin in lack of anything else now are faced with a real 
dilema.

And the main imperialist powers (especially Germany and the US) might find 
themselves in and escalating rivalry over this stuff.

Yes indeed Bob! The shelf-life of "The West" is best before the next 
escalation of inter-imperialist rivalry. And how much longer will people be 
able to call on "The West" to sort out regional conflicts? Perhaps honesty 
might be a better solution- simply call on the US to crack the whip and be 
done with it!

Russell

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SV: M-TH: Chechnya - the revolutionary answer

1999-11-10 Thread Bob Malecki

Well I am hardly with Dave or Chris on this stuff. Positive to self determination but 
defeatist between Moscow and the Islamic Fundamentalists. However Rob raises and 
interesting question in that the west who have "supported" Yeltsin in lack of anything 
else now are faced with a real dilema. 

And the main imperialist powers (especially Germany and the US) might find themselves 
in and escalating rivalry over this stuff.



Bob
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From: Rob Schaap [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: M-TH: Chechnya - the revolutionary answer


 G'day Chris'n'Dave,
 
 I'm with Chris on Chechnya (well, we were due an agreement, I reckon - and
 I don't see how threatening to withold funds that only ever find their way
 into aparatchik/mob/financier pockets is gonna hurt too many), but leaving
 the little matter of murder on a grand scale aside for a minute, there's
 some value to be had in anything that drives a wedge between Boris'n'Bill
 and/or exacerbates the distance between Boris and his plentiful opponents
 as early as possible (one can only surmise how another year or two of
 corruption, mass suffering and bereavement might lift the Russian far
 right's stocks - anyone know anything about this Barazov character?).  With
 great chunks of Eastern Europe evincing a left-turn, the time might be
 right to have a contest for the Kremlin about now.  Another embarrassment
 for Yeltsin might be just the ticket, I reckon.  His administration (never
 mind the old bastard hisself) has gotta be living on borrowed time, no?  A
 western-inspired Russian retreat saves lives now and might just give the
 Russian left the leg-up it needs in potentially auspicious times.
 
 Or am I speculating above and beyond the call of reason?
 
 Cheers,
 Rob.
 
 
 
 
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