[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis digest, Vol 1 #42 - 7 msgs

2002-01-22 Thread Waistline2
Marx reminds me of a really good suit that never goes out of style and survives the various trends, the rise and fall of desiger names and the ups and downs of the marketplace. After a solid 150 years Marx is still the rage. That suit Engels wore is still pretty sharp. Melvin

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis digest, Vol 1 #44 - 7 msgs

2002-01-25 Thread Waistline2
Capitalism over the past ten years or so has produced a technological revolution in its means of production involving the transformation of information technology. Over the same period it has succeeded in recomposing the working class. This has led to deskilling of traditional trades,

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis digest, Vol 1 #46 - 2 msgs

2002-01-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/26/2002 8:48:37 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think this term is worth unpacking. Marxist literature can use production in two ways: production of surplus value (in this case a school teacher can be productive if it is a private school), and

[Marxism-Thaxis] part 2

2002-01-31 Thread Waistline2
Dialectics and Process: Part II Society moves in class antagonism. At a certain stage of their development, the material forces of production in society come into conflict . . . with the property relations . . . From forms of development of the forces of production, these (property)

[Marxism-Thaxis] African American History Month

2002-02-07 Thread Waistline2
4. AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH: NEW RACISM BASED ON CLASS, NOT COLOR By Nelson Peery African American History Month, 2002 is celebrated in the midst of economic, social and political changes that are reshaping our world. The African Americans, along with the rest of the American people,

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re:Lil Joe Haiti-Stan Goff

2005-01-17 Thread Waistline2
Part 2 Sorry, but I have little tolerance - as polemic, on whether or not communist engage the Church. I will merely state that Martin L. King Jr., Malcolm X, Reverend Shuttleworth and thousands of store front preachers have been on the front line of what is called the class struggle in the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Lil Joe and facts about our history, black people

2005-01-18 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/17/2005 1:01:00 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The League of Black Revolutionaries and Communist League was led by Nelson Perry into (League of Revolutionaries [or something like that, that still put out People's Tribune which appears regularly on

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Lil Joe - Malcolm X advocating Race War is lunacy

2005-01-19 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/19/2005 1:00:38 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Waistline: All classes of African Americans were in motion and the white sector of the industrial proletariat was passive. Lil Joe: Where does this history come from? In reality in the 50s and 60s the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Correction

2005-01-19 Thread Waistline2
Correction: I identified the cartoonist of the old Muhammad Speaks as John 2x and believe his name was brother Gerald 2X . . . I think. Sorry about any confusion this might cause. ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Lil Joe and Politics

2005-01-20 Thread Waistline2
Waistline's statement that 'Practical politics are never to be confused with theoretical Marxism' only shows his own ignorance and confusion regarding the Marxian praxis epistemology of materialism, class war and proletarian social revolution! Comment Actually, I believe that I have shown my

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: correction

2005-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/19/2005 5:05:59 PM Central Standard Time, Waistline2 writes: Further, Reuther opposed Civil Rights for a very long time and only shifted his position concerning Civil Rights within the union and outside the union as the result of immense pressure. He died opposing

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: NNCL

2005-01-20 Thread Waistline2
(This phase of history of the trade union movement is bound up with the white chauvinism and wrong orientation of the CPUSA and the SWP - and government attack and penetration, that allowed for the political vacuum of the time.) ^^ CB: The National Negro Labor Council was the CPUSA.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Church Work and Marx materialism as praxis

2005-01-21 Thread Waistline2
Lil Joe: (!) Work in the Church is disseminating superstition, and politically reactionary anti-materialist, counter-revolutionary ideologies and politics, such as pragmatism, TINA, and 'political middle' of the roadism as a buffer of ruling class protection in the working class whereas trade

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Coleman Young and National Factor

2005-01-22 Thread Waistline2
As famous as Coleman Young is in Detroit, very few people know that he was a CPUSA official. When the House UnAmerican Activities Committee called him before it, they had the right one, baby. He was a top Red. And he chased them out of town and they never came back. Reply This part of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Coleman Young, National Factor, Our history, UAW

2005-01-23 Thread Waistline2
CB: You know you right, and in Hardstuff, Coleman, of course, let Reuther have it. I don't know if you remember, but when the preliminary copies of Hardstuff came out many months before its mass publication, the UAW (now this is the mid 90's , 25 plus years after Reuther was dead, and after

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: US and Iraq

2005-01-26 Thread Waistline2
I forget who wrote the article, and who posted it, but can you or anyone repost, or send me articles on how the U.S. is fanning flames of Civil War in Iraq? Please!! Thank you!!! [the more the better]I need it! Lil Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply Don't know if this helps but our own Henry

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: The Negro and His Nemesis

2005-01-28 Thread Waistline2
From the standpoint of the October Revolution and its political affirmation and aftermath this is the period of the Negro Bourgeois Democratic National Movement. The Negro Bourgeois Democratic National Movement was by definition different from the movement of the industrial working class

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: The Negro and his Nemesis - James Foreman

2005-01-30 Thread Waistline2
Quickly note: CB . . . James Foreman recently passed and much material appeared concerning his place in history. Herb Boyd did an article on Foreman and one appeared on the Black Commentator. The bulk of much of his later day political activity took place in Detroit. For various political

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Carrying capacity of the earth

2005-02-01 Thread Waistline2
Sartesian's refusal to acknowledge that Mark's approach assumes the absolute necessity of socialist revolution as a premise to avoid ecological disaster makes his argumentation irrationally contentious in the form of arguing with a straw man. It is dishonest. Then to go into all that

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Leninism and the National Factor or Black capitalists as a movement

2005-02-01 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/31/2005 1:01:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: CB: There are subjective and objective aspects. I'm thinking that petit bourgeois more accurately describes the objective status of the Negro entrepreneurs of this time period, as well as the realistic

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Tom Franks forgot me.

2005-02-02 Thread Waistline2
(the following was sent 2-2-2005 to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) ) Tom Franks forgot me. A humor letter calling for violence, torture, and even death for leading leftists who dare oppose Bush's war on terror and the slaughter in Iraq smacks of American fascism. Those

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Carrying Capacity of the earth . . . again

2005-02-02 Thread Waistline2
Restraining the growth of consumption does not mean going back to living in caves and cooking over buffalo-chip fires. For decades in the rich nations increased consumption has not been correlated with increased satisfaction, and perpetuating Third World poverty is a luxury that the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Carrying capacity of the earth/Slander

2005-02-03 Thread Waistline2
CB: Again to keep using this phrase becomes willful slander and misrepresention. Too many is always a relative term. Too many relative to what ? We may reach a point that there are too many people to keep warm, make food for relative to the amount of fuel by way of a fossil fuel based

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Carrying capacity of earth/Slander (2) Sartesian idiocy

2005-02-04 Thread Waistline2
Me: What the modern students and folks who drift into Malthusianism present is an equation that examines food production capacity and living requirements (human needs) as energy conversion and resource use and depletion and multiply this by an expanding population. They arrive at the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Carrying capacity discussion

2005-02-09 Thread Waistline2
CB: Is population outrunning the capacity of the earth to sustain us with bourgeois social relations ? If we don't change the social relations, what do you predict will happen? Also, do you say Mark Jones' approach did not include changing social relations ? Reply: No. The

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Speaking for myself - imperial theory-Arithmetic increase of food production

2005-02-09 Thread Waistline2
C.B.: Malthusian, or neo-neo-Malthusian as Waistline says, gets used indiscriminately , but not specifically the theory that the population increases geometrically and the food supply increases arithmetically. Basically, the definition of Malthusian put forth here is that any argument that

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 16, Issue 11

2005-02-15 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/15/2005 1:00:51 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Healthy life expectancy is currently being redefined. I would like to get at least another 30 years of healthy living and die when the electrical charge of most of my cells fade. Everything we eat is

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: African American History Month

2005-02-15 Thread Waistline2
African American History Month (The below excerpt is more than a decade old but perhaps the best concise statement of the African American National Factor) Waistline AFRICAN AMERICAN LIBERATION AND REVOLUTION IN THE UNITED STATES From the field, to the factory, to the street By Nelson

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Selected reference on the African American National Factor and Context

2005-02-15 Thread Waistline2
full: http://www.lrna.org/texts/movingon/movingon.14.html Benedict, Ruth, Race: Science and Politics, Viking Press, 7th edition, 1968. [first published in 1940] Discover, Special issue on the Science of Race, November 1994. Galeano, Eduardo, Memory of Fire: Genesis, Pantheon Books, 1985.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: dialectic approach to consumption

2005-02-16 Thread Waistline2
CB: Sickle cell is not caused by overeating. It is genetically based. WL: The issue posed was not the shape of the cell (sickle cell), but sickle cell as an anemia or blood disease. Here is what was stated: Even sickle cell anemia is an anemia . . . blood disease of over consumption or lack

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: African American History Month: 2005 (1)

2005-02-16 Thread Waistline2
African American History Month is once again upon us. There are incredible historical depiction of the history of the African American paying on all major television channels and excellent historical events on the cable channels as well as PBS. The scope and debt of these television specials

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 16, Issue 13

2005-02-17 Thread Waistline2
My understanding is that those who are homozygous for sickle cell gene have the disease regardless of diet. CB Reply My point is that the sickle cell is not a disease. The shape of the cell is not the disease. It is the environment of the cell that produces the disease state and not the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Sickle Cell again

2005-02-17 Thread Waistline2
I read the material on sickle cell anemia. If they were right they would and could cure the disease. The conception of the disease is wrong. Iron phosphate concentrates cure the diseased state of the blood, not the shape of the cell and this has been proven by the authors I quoted. The disease

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Sickle Cell

2005-02-18 Thread Waistline2
CB: I think the shape of the cell is not the direct cause of the disease. Rather the shape and the cause are both caused by a third element. CB: This is LaMarckian CB: Speak for yourself. Reply I do apologize for giving the impression I was speaking for others. I speak exclusively for myself

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Sickle Cell/cure and conception

2005-02-18 Thread Waistline2
www.expressnutritononline.com tel: (305) 345-6135 fax: (305) 252 -4060 As the saying goes the proof is in the pudding, rather than a theoretical conception. Any sickle cell sufferer can immediately move towards a healthier life for less than $100 . . . today . . . in real time. If I was in

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Tragedy of the Commons

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
CORRECTION: overgrazing by the common people did NOT occur. sorry. Comment Upon first regarding of comments on Global warming: tragedy of the commons revisited (s. artesian) I had made the mental correction based on many of your previous writings and comments which generally and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Applied Dialectics of Change

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
Entering an Epoch of Social Revolution Including additional essays Dialectics of the Leap and the Destruction of Capitalism and... Polarization in U.S. -- Basis for a Workers Party (c) Copyright April, 1993 Workers Press P.O. Box 3705 Chicago, IL 60654 full:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Applied Dialectics of Change

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
Institute Resource Paper #4 The Shape of History: Historical Materialism, Electronics and Value full: http://www.scienceofsociety.org/inbox/res4.html Marxism is, first and foremost, the science of society. Through examination and experimentation, by applying theory through practice and, through

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Black Hisotry Month: African Americans and the Struggle for a New Society

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
African Americans and the Struggle for a New Society African American history is the heart of American history. This is true because the manipulation and the exploitation of African Americans, along with their ceaseless struggle for freedom and equality, has somehow been at the center of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Detroit: Water Held Hostage

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
Detroit: Water Held Hostage By Maureen Taylor Editor's note: Maureen Taylor, at right, chairperson of the Michigan Welfare Rights Organization, made the speech below at the Water for People Not for Profit workshop at the 2004 World Social Forum in Boston. Maureen discusses Michigan's

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Black Hisotry Month: Watts 1965, turning point

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
The historical significance of the Watts uprising August 2000 by Nelson Peery August 11 marks the 35th anniversary of the Watts rebellion. Why did it happen? Armed, mass uprisings are a specific stage of struggle against an oppressing state power. In the struggle against violent

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Black Hisotry Month: 1999

2005-02-19 Thread Waistline2
African American History Month's true meaning By Nelson Peery African American history is the heart of the history of our country. Understanding the exploitation and political maneuvering of the black minority of the population is key to understanding American history. Political control of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Black History Month: 2001

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
African American History Month: African Americans are the key to democracy for all By Nelson Peery The Supreme Court's appointing George W. Bush as president of the United States threw the Democratic Party and the independent political organizations into an uproar. President Clinton

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Changing Form Of The State -Where the rubber meets the road

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
The Changing Form Of The State Demands the LRNA Disperse To Connect With Revolutionaries December 2004 Steering Committee Report Bush's victory in the 2004 presidential election signals that the pace of the process of transforming the governmental machinery to accommodate the national and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Technology Revolution: dialectic of the leap - leap ...

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
CB: Can we say this polarization is an expression of Marx's absolute law of capitalist accumulation ? WL: I would think so. What is different is how this law continues to unfold in a changed backdrop. That is to say the backdrop during Marx life was the transition from agriculture to industry

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Portuguese Socialists Win Landslide Electoral Victory

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Socialist 'victory' is meaningless, unless and until the Socialist Party members of parliament legislates the transfer of the productive forces and financial institutions from the private possessions of the capitalist class, to the public possession of the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Portuguese Socialists Win Landslide Electoral Victory

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
Monday, February 21st, 2005 The Undiscovered Malcolm X: Stunning New Info on the Assassination, His Plans to Unite the Civil Rights and Black Nationalist Movements the 3 'Missing' Chapters from His Autobiography Listen to Segment || Download Show mp3 Watch 128k stream Watch 256k

[Marxism-Thaxis] Marxism and the National Factor - African American History (2)

2005-02-21 Thread Waistline2
President Franklin D. Roosevelt, under enormous political and moral pressure, made Negro History Week official in the 1940s. It was conceived to teach the other Americans about the special contributions African Americans made to the development of our country. Special interests soon saw

[Marxism-Thaxis] Something Different

2005-02-22 Thread Waistline2
Something Completely Different, A Story Snow Angel I know I couldn't have gotten out of the State Supreme Court building any faster, but it wasn't fast enough. The elevator couldn't come quickly enough and I couldn't wait. The stairs weren't close, but I didn't care and I banged through the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Technology Revolution: dialectic of the leap

2005-02-23 Thread Waistline2
Last century, machines proved they could replace human muscle. This century, technologies are proving they can outperform human left brains - they can execute sequential, reductive, computational work better, faster, and more accurately than even those with the highest IQs. (Just ask chess

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class

2005-02-24 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 2/24/2005 12:57:34 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Is the working class declining ? 2. What defines membership in the working class ? 3. Does the working class include others besides wagelaborers in material production ? 4. Do wagelaborers outside of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class - mode of production

2005-02-24 Thread Waistline2
CB: The Marxist idea is that the working class is the only class that can overthrow capitalism, and that in the process it abolishes itself as a class, and all classes. WL: OK . . . these Marxists should follow their heart and convert their belief into a strategy or strategic approach to the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
6. Are teachers in the working class ? Do teachers create value ? Can teachers be exploited ( and who will teach the teacher?) ? Same question about office workers, clerks, secretaries, nurses, garbage pickup workers, water plant workers, public lighting workers, et al Reply WL: No . . .

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class - doctrine

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
This development presents todays revolutionaries with a particular opportunity. As the objective movement against private property and for everything from food to housing to health care broadens, it will encompass many different interpretations and expressions. Today communism is the program

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class - mode of production

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
MODE OF PRODUCTION (Marx) : Everything that goes into the production of the necessities of life, including the productive forces (labor, instruments, and raw material) and the relations of production (the social structures that regulate the relation between humans in the production of goods.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
WL: I do not understand the concept mode of production to mean a set of property relations but rather, the specific shape of the productive forces and the technological regime as primary, with the property relations within. ^ CB: Well, again this crystalizes our difference. I understand

[Marxism-Thaxis] Population Growth - cry of the bourgeoisie

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
UN Predicts 9.1 Billion People on Earth by 2050 By Evelyn Leopold Reuters Friday 25 February 2005 United Nations - The human race is expected to swell from the current 6.5 billion to 9.1 billion people by 2050, with populations exploding in hungry developing countries

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class - mode of production. workers cant overthrow

2005-02-25 Thread Waistline2
Mode of production in material life I follow the Marxism list and was pleasantly surprised to read the replies to Charles inquiry. One author stated: Specifically, he (Marx) argues it is the way in which surplus-labour is extracted and appropriated that is the fulcrum of the social order. But

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Oscar

2005-02-28 Thread Waistline2
I watched this speech and a few others. But I have to confess to being one of these Northerners unwilling to accept the validity of Southern traditions in any respect--including the traditional notions of Southern blacks. I find comments such as Jamie Foxx's depressing in the extreme,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class

2005-02-28 Thread Waistline2
CB: To me it's an inference. Capitalism is a mode of production from , for example, The wealth of the nations in which the CAPITALIST MODE OF PRODUCTION PREVAILS And he defines capitalism by labor power as a commodity, or the wagelabor-capital relationship. The latter relationship is a

[Marxism-Thaxis] Discussion on Soviet Socialism in Cuba Amongst Intellectual elite

2005-02-28 Thread Waistline2
WHY DID EASTERN EUROPEAN SOCIALISM FALL? A CubaNews translation by Maria Montelibre Edited and this note by Walter Lippmann, February 2005. Full: http://www.walterlippmann.com/docs075.html Ariel Dacal. We are talking about authoritarianism, personality cult - sometimes charismatic -

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Working class - mode of production/inference Marx

2005-03-01 Thread Waistline2
According to the materialistic conception, the determining factor in history is, in the final instance, the production and reproduction of the immediate essentials of life. This, again, is of a twofold character. On the one side, the production of the means of existence, of articles of food

[Marxism-Thaxis] Conference in Detroit: Detroit's Tsunami .

2005-03-02 Thread Waistline2
Press Release: Changing Detroit: Past, Present, Future March 1, 2005 (Please forward to interested parties.) Detroit's Tsunami Thursday, March 31, 2005 from 6-9 p.m. Adamany Undergraduate Library, Community Room, 3rd Floor Thinking Outside the Box Thursday, April 28, 2005 from 6-9 p.m.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The increasingly complex situation, and the antiwar stan...

2005-03-02 Thread Waistline2
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Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Power to the People !

2005-03-04 Thread Waistline2
CB: Note the last question is in recognition of the issue we are debating here,usage of mode of production. And , yes, I know that Marx is ambiguous in that usage. However, he does use it to refer to especially property relations in one of those double usages, and that is the usage connected to

[Marxism-Thaxis] Banks and Bonds

2005-03-04 Thread Waistline2
Friends, what are our choices in modifying our position on making these scandalous payments? This is the same position of power and theft that the World Bank and IMF holds over the subjugated countries of the South. Thanks to Diane and Bankole for their reporting and editing on these articles.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Power to the People !

2005-03-04 Thread Waistline2
Communism - not socialism, is impossible unless one has the economic legs to stand on or a revolution in the mode of production (not simply the property relations) that destroys value by qualitatively reconfiguring the labor process where the great mass of humanity's labor is not needed in the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Big Jesse on Malcolm X

2005-03-04 Thread Waistline2
The princely paradox of Malcolm X Forty years on, his legacy offers an example to people of all ethnicities Jesse Jackson Tuesday February 22, 2005 The Guardian As I reflect on the life of Malcolm X 40 years after his assassination, I do so with a keen understanding of the political, social and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Power to the People !

2005-03-06 Thread Waistline2
CB: Yes, well this is a point of disagreement. Marx _does_ use mode of production to mean a set of property relations. I said he uses the term in more than one way, but one of them _is_ to specfically refer to property relations. Sometimes, it is sort of a mixture with forces of production Mode

[Marxism-Thaxis] Martha Stewart Back on Job

2005-03-07 Thread Waistline2
Updated: 02:51 PM EST Out of Prison, She's Back on the Job Domestic Diva Praises Employees at Meeting By SARA KUGLER, AP NEW YORK (March 7) - A beaming Martha Stewart praised her employees on her first day back at work Monday and told the cheering workers who welcomed her back that she

[Marxism-Thaxis] 40th anniversary march of Selma Alabama Voting Rights March

2005-03-07 Thread Waistline2
A copy written story for the AP spoke of a 40th anniversary march at the Edmund Pettus Bridge - yesterday, in memory of the Selma Alabama Voting Rights March. The crowd was estimated at 10,000. Among the marchers was Harry Belafonte, (who demonstrated there 40 years ago, the Rev. (Big) Jesse

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Who's Turning Their Back? The Black Bourgeois

2005-03-08 Thread Waistline2
Lil Joe comment: Actually, there is no Black bourgeoisie because there is no Black nation: Blacks in the US are either capitalists, professionals, working class or and chronically unemployed, and in these economic categories the Black capitalists no different from White capitalists, Black workers

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Van Heijenoort's critique of Engels

2005-03-08 Thread Waistline2
Evolution punctuated by revolution is another way of saying quantitative change turns into qualitative change. Socially, the ebb and flow of reform is evolutionary. It is change without changing the mode of production out of capitalism. Socialist revolution is a leap in which the mode of

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Water, Social Revolution, Quality and Marx

2005-03-10 Thread Waistline2
For Hegel, and I assume for Marx and Engels, regular incremental changes (magnitude) does not turn into quality, but rather at some critical point, a new quality emerges out of and negates regular incremental change. ^ CB: I said quantitative change turns into qualitative _change_ . I

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Lenin on Dialectics - new aspects

2005-03-10 Thread Waistline2
I like Lenin a lot and his passage below is instructive for me personally. About 30 years or so ago when I first read this it was extremely exicting. Today what I read from the passage below is: (history constantly revealing ever new aspects), . . . connection . . . universal process of

[Marxism-Thaxis] China: Western Economic Model Will not Work for the World

2005-03-12 Thread Waistline2
LEARNING FROM CHINA Why the Western Economic Model Will not Work for the World www.earth-policy.org/Updates/2005/Update46.htm Lester R. Brown Could the American dream in China become a nightmare for the world? For China's 1.3 billion people, the American dream is fast becoming the Chinese

[Marxism-Thaxis] .Black Star Community Bookstore

2005-03-13 Thread Waistline2
March Events at Black Star Community Bookstore March just happens to be Womens History Month. And this month, we celebrate the life and work of two phenomenal women, Elder Erma Henderson, president emeritus of the Detroit City Council, and Betty DeRamus, award-winning journalist and author.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] They're back! Church Bulletins:

2005-03-19 Thread Waistline2
The sermon this morning: Jesus Walks on the Water. The sermon tonight: Searching for Jesus. WL: Very funny. Scores 9 on a scale of 10. --- Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] They're back! Church Bulletins:

2005-03-19 Thread Waistline2
The power of the Church is not very different from any other organization. It's collectivity consists in its fellowship. The humor list reveals an impressive array of real life activity. Nice and very funny. The searching for Jesus after he walks on water joke might be a 10 on the 10 scale.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Marxists . . . heal thyself. Praxis as dialectic of change2

2005-03-20 Thread Waistline2
We tend to fight battles that Marx already won. When Marx wrote that the philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways, the point is to change it, this was right on - a good thing and he wrote as a revolutionary. Today the question has deepened with knowing. In what direction and

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Nature, Society, and Thought - Question

2005-03-20 Thread Waistline2
The contents of vol. 17, no. 4, include a discussion of the present nature of the Russian economy; an explanation by the Iraqi Communist Party of its response to the U.S. occupation and the Party's participation in the recent Iraqi elections; and two articles on China: David Schweickart's analysis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] On history of Jews in USSR

2005-03-23 Thread Waistline2
This book changed my sense of the big story of Soviet history as well as the big story of the Jews in the modern world.* . . . In the top Party leadership of the 1920s, Jews were the largest single ethnic group . . . Within the Party leadership's relatively small contingent of ethnic

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Jim Craven on Ward Churchill

2005-03-23 Thread Waistline2
It is very simple: To really honor the victims of a given holocaust or event, the full magnitude and essential dimensions and causes must be discovered, exposed and used in concrete ways to prevent another holocaust or event and even more victims. So, for example, when some see the nazi

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Two-thirds of world's resources 'used up'

2005-03-31 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/31/2005 9:26:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Human activity is putting such a strain on the natural functions of Earth that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future generations can no longer be taken for granted, what a lie.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Two-thirds of world's resources 'used up'

2005-04-02 Thread Waistline2
CB: If you want to claim that you are taking a Marxist approach to this issue, you should use modern, biological and ecological science, not obscure diet doctors' theses, like the one you referred to in a recent , previous thread on this. Comment: WL: I accept how you understand what I wrote

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] 2/3 of world's resources 'used up' - Food

2005-04-03 Thread Waistline2
Over the past 50 years, humans have changed ecosystems more rapidly and extensively than at any time in human history, largely to meet rapidly growing demands for food, fresh water, timber and fibre, the reports says. The full costs of this are only now becoming apparent. Some 15 of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] 2/3 of world's resources 'used up' - Food

2005-04-03 Thread Waistline2
The weapon of critique indeed cannot replace the critique of weapons; material force must be overthrown by material force, but the theory becomes a material force once it gets hold of men. Theory is capable of getting hold of men once it demonstrates its truth with regard to man, once it

[Marxism-Thaxis] Millions More Movement: Battle for economic justice against fascist oppression

2005-05-03 Thread Waistline2
10 Years After Million Man March, Conveners Announce the Millions More Movement (BAW, 05-02-2005) May 2, 2005 Millions More Movement Press Conference WASHINGTON (FinalCall.com) - A far-reaching national leadership coalition including the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Willie F.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Millions More Movement: Battle for economic justice ag...

2005-05-04 Thread Waistline2
We have a larger middle class, many more millionaires and a few billionaires, however, the overall condition of our people is worse. We have more entrepreneurs, more college graduates, more persons holding political office, more Black mayors, city councilors, aldermen, state representatives,

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] O, Dialectics of the new class or communist class (2)!

2005-05-27 Thread Waistline2
Part 2 Dialectics of the new class or communist class I am proud to be part of the communist movement and none of our errors, mistakes and lapses in judgment comes close on the scale of history to the murderous actions of the bourgeoisie and my very own imperial bourgeoisie. The politics of

[Marxism-Thaxis] a world not tied to oil

2005-06-07 Thread Waistline2
We could have a world not tied to oil http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.2005.6/PT.2005.6.6.html This column is a place for revolutionaries to debate why a cooperative society is a practical solution to the problems people are fighting out. We welcome your thoughts about the articles we are

[Marxism-Thaxis] Maureen Taylor, Detroit's grassroots City Council candidate: real world stuff

2005-06-07 Thread Waistline2
An interview with Maureen Taylor, Detroit's grassroots City Council candidate http://www.lrna.org/league/PT/PT.2005.6/PT.2005.6.4.html By People's Tribune Staff Editor's note: The People's Tribune recently interviewed Maureen Taylor, who is a candidate for the Detroit City Council.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the Politics of Class - Is Unity Possible?

2005-06-07 Thread Waistline2
TONC also takes the Millions More Movements march on Wash. DC on October 15 very seriously and we are already beginning to strategize as to how we can best unite the struggle against the war with that effort. We dont want the two dates, October 15, and Sept. 24, just three weeks apart, to

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the Politics of Class - Is Unity Possible? - 2

2005-06-10 Thread Waistline2
Marxism and the National Factor - June 2005 Juneteenth is June 19. Part 2 What made the South culturally The South was the huge slave class. What made the North, Northern - in its culture, politics, social and economic life was not the slave class producing products that underwent conversion

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] the Politics of Class - Is Unity Possible? - 3

2005-06-10 Thread Waistline2
Marxism and the National Factor - June 2005 Juneteenth is June 19. Part 3 THE SOUTH In the South was a horribly reactionary secessionists (national) movement. Here is the National Question for all to see. The South seceding from the American Union; the desire and economic need of the North

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Economics and Politics: The State and Revolution (ESSAY)...

2005-06-15 Thread Waistline2
1.)The failure of the US communist movement must be criticized and severly . . . the US communists must also make a self-criticism of our failures as a movement. 2.) There is no amount of excuses that can justifify our failure to our responsibilities and duties as Marxist-Leninists who are

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] ANB - Bio of the Day: Henry Winston [fwd]

2005-06-20 Thread Waistline2
Winston, Henry (2 Apr. 1911-13 Dec. 1986), a leading figure in the Communist party of the United States for forty years, was born in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, the son of Joseph Winston, a sawmill worker, and Lucille (maiden name not known). Both of his parents were children of slaves. Comment

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] scarcity as philosophy

2005-07-24 Thread Waistline2
This is horseshit. Who's the moron who wrote it? The Coming Trade War and Global Depression By Henry C.K. Liu Part 4: Scarcity Economics and Overcapacity Reply The author name is clearly stated above. The source of the article was included. Please define horseshit in philosophic terms.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] scarcity as philosophy

2005-07-25 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/25/2005 7:35:49 AM Central Standard Time, Waistline2 writes: In a message dated 7/25/2005 1:33:42 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Liu's mystical-nationalist drivel is so similar to the arguments of the Hindutva fascists, who also have an affinity to neo

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] scarcity as philosophy

2005-07-26 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 7/25/2005 1:33:42 AM Central Standard Time, rdumain writes: Liu's mystical-nationalist drivel is so similar to the arguments of the Hindutva fascists, who also have an affinity to neo-pagan fascists in the West, I neglected to qualify my outburst by specifying that Liu's

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