Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism

2009-01-20 Thread Waistline2
The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of captialist production to develop the productive forces as though only the absolute consuming power of society constituted their outer limit (Capital

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Brown
waistli...@aol.com 01/20/2009 6:32 AM The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of captialist production to develop the productive forces as though only the absolute consuming power of society

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism (not the ultimate cause of crisis)

2009-01-20 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/20/2009 11:02:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _charl...@cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us_ (mailto:charl...@cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us) writes: The ultimate reason for all real crises always remains the poverty and restricted consumption of the masses as opposed to the drive of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism (not the ultimate cause ofcrisis)

2009-01-20 Thread Charles Brown
In this quote, Marx is not talking about revolutionary transformation necessarily, but rather about the regular crises within capitalism still. Such crises may be involved in a revolutionary transformation as a sort of trigger, but Marx is not claiming that underconsumption is the ultimate

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism (not the ultimate cause ofcrisis)

2009-01-20 Thread Waistline2
Every single regular crisis of capital, in particular, is the direct result of the bourgeois property form. Allow me to emphasize regular as meaning cyclical - not the revolutionary transformation (more accurately transition) from one mode of production to anther. Actually, regular

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism; (refutation by Marx and Lenin)

2009-01-20 Thread Waistline2
Apologies for the length of this, but I was challenged to produce some quotes ... --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Charles Brown _charl...@cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us_ (mailto:charl...@cncl.ci.detroit.mi.us) wrote: You quoted the quote from Lenin. If you'd turned the page and read on, you would have

[Marxism-Thaxis] underconsumptionism

2009-01-16 Thread Charles Brown
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