Re: [Marxism] What is Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Anthony, Indian Bollywood has become so commercialised and crass, that I will cite on example.The famous Indian singer, Lata mangeshkar (above 80 yrs now) was invited to garce an occasion, which she declined citing her health. Picqued, the sponsors had called up on one mediocre singer to imitate her and it seems she made remarks denigrating the famous singer. Many people were disgusted at this inappropriate display.When she was asked to react, Lata simply said, India is a free country. This is what I call 'Grace'. Lata is the recipent of the highst civilian honour in India, Bharat Ratna (meaning Gem of India), awarded by the Government. It is said, that when she sang a song about the dead soldiers on the India-China war front , the then Prime Minister, Nehru was in tears. And she is famous for her prayer song , Vaishnava Ganato, a fovourite of Mahatma Gandhi.The video I had posted in my fist message on this subject, from the Indian film, 'Anupama, you can see how dignified she seems in her singing, with matching charm of the actress of yester years, Sharmila Tagore..Vijaya Kumar Marla On Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:54 PM, Anthony Boynton via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlFCKZkeBrg _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/marlavk%40yahoo.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] What is Grace?
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Re: [Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Yes, the videos were available. Extraordinary especially the snake dance one. I was interested in the presence of the male gaze as well of course in the dnance. the latter brought to mind these lines from Yeats Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul. Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How can we know the dancer from the dance? The lines have always been obscure to me, until I once watched a dance workshop performed by the Bangarra Aboriginal Dance troupe. The dancers were working with Indigenous adolescent boys and girls and where they succeeded most you could not tell the dancer from the dance. Perfect art seems effortless or as you might say born out of grace. comradely Gary On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Marla Vijaya kumar via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometime back, on a lazy evening my childhood friend asked me What is grace?I said it has nothing to do with beauty, but the way a person conducts himself/herself in daily life. I could recall so many people who had that quality. Here is one song from an old Urdu film, Anupama. Sharmila Tagore, the leading lady of the film exudes natural grace.Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - Anupama - Lata - Evergreen Hindi Songs | | | | | | | | | | | Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - An... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | There is another video, from the 1965 film, Dev Anand's 'The Guide', in which there is a traditional snake dance. Waheeda Rehaman, the heroine, effortlessly shows how the character in the film is seeking perfection in dance, her life's passion.Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D. Burman - Bollywood Dances | | | | | | | | | | | Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | May be it is diversion after months of debate on Greece.Vijaya Kumar M _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Gary, In November last year, I addresed a Leftist Youth Festival in South India's Hindu Holy City of Tirupathi. A mathematics Professor, Com. Nagaraju and his students had presented a balle on exploitation in the name of God. It was very impressive. I was thinking about it for a long time. Recently, when I went back to Tirupathi City, I asked Com. Nagaraju to compose a balle, based on Gorky's story, Danko's Heart. Are you aware of any videos of a balle or animation based on this story. It will be helpful for them.Vijaya Kumar Marla On Monday, March 23, 2015 11:51 AM, Gary MacLennan gary.maclenn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the videos were available. Extraordinary especially the snake dance one. I was interested in the presence of the male gaze as well of course in the dnance. the latter brought to mind these lines from Yeats Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul. Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How can we know the dancer from the dance? The lines have always been obscure to me, until I once watched a dance workshop performed by the Bangarra Aboriginal Dance troupe. The dancers were working with Indigenous adolescent boys and girls and where they succeeded most you could not tell the dancer from the dance. Perfect art seems effortless or as you might say born out of grace. comradely Gary On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Marla Vijaya kumar via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometime back, on a lazy evening my childhood friend asked me What is grace?I said it has nothing to do with beauty, but the way a person conducts himself/herself in daily life. I could recall so many people who had that quality. Here is one song from an old Urdu film, Anupama. Sharmila Tagore, the leading lady of the film exudes natural grace.Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - Anupama - Lata - Evergreen Hindi Songs | | | | | | | | | | | Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - An... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | There is another video, from the 1965 film, Dev Anand's 'The Guide', in which there is a traditional snake dance. Waheeda Rehaman, the heroine, effortlessly shows how the character in the film is seeking perfection in dance, her life's passion.Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D. Burman - Bollywood Dances | | | | | | | | | | | Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | May be it is diversion after months of debate on Greece.Vijaya Kumar M _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Yeats seem to be thinking of individual action vs. action for a group: “...the leaf, the blossom or the bole?” On Monday, March 23, 2015 11:51 AM, Gary MacLennan gary.maclenn...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, the videos were available. Extraordinary especially the snake dance one. I was interested in the presence of the male gaze as well of course in the dnance. the latter brought to mind these lines from Yeats Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul. Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How can we know the dancer from the dance? The lines have always been obscure to me, until I once watched a dance workshop performed by the Bangarra Aboriginal Dance troupe. The dancers were working with Indigenous adolescent boys and girls and where they succeeded most you could not tell the dancer from the dance. Perfect art seems effortless or as you might say born out of grace. comradely Gary _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Interesting Vijay. I would nominate the late Roy Bhaskar as the closest representative of 'grace' that I ever knew. David Graeber used the word preternatural to describe his gentleness. There have only been a handful of people in my life who had what I would call a still center that made them wonderful to be near. And he was one of them. ae gary On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Marla Vijaya kumar via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometime back, on a lazy evening my childhood friend asked me What is grace?I said it has nothing to do with beauty, but the way a person conducts himself/herself in daily life. I could recall so many people who had that quality. Here is one song from an old Urdu film, Anupama. Sharmila Tagore, the leading lady of the film exudes natural grace.Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - Anupama - Lata - Evergreen Hindi Songs | | | | | | | | | | | Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - An... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | There is another video, from the 1965 film, Dev Anand's 'The Guide', in which there is a traditional snake dance. Waheeda Rehaman, the heroine, effortlessly shows how the character in the film is seeking perfection in dance, her life's passion.Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D. Burman - Bollywood Dances | | | | | | | | | | | Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | May be it is diversion after months of debate on Greece.Vijaya Kumar M _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Gary, I would to further add that grace is that quality in some people, that makes others feel natural and at ease in their presence.Were the viseos I referred accessible? Vijaya Kumar Marla On Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:58 PM, Gary MacLennan gary.maclenn...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting Vijay. I would nominate the late Roy Bhaskar as the closest representative of 'grace' that I ever knew. David Graeber used the word preternatural to describe his gentleness. There have only been a handful of people in my life who had what I would call a still center that made them wonderful to be near. And he was one of them. ae gary On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:26 AM, Marla Vijaya kumar via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometime back, on a lazy evening my childhood friend asked me What is grace?I said it has nothing to do with beauty, but the way a person conducts himself/herself in daily life. I could recall so many people who had that quality. Here is one song from an old Urdu film, Anupama. Sharmila Tagore, the leading lady of the film exudes natural grace.Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - Anupama - Lata - Evergreen Hindi Songs | | | | | | | | | | | Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - An... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | There is another video, from the 1965 film, Dev Anand's 'The Guide', in which there is a traditional snake dance. Waheeda Rehaman, the heroine, effortlessly shows how the character in the film is seeking perfection in dance, her life's passion.Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D. Burman - Bollywood Dances | | | | | | | | | | | Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | May be it is diversion after months of debate on Greece.Vijaya Kumar M _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
[Marxism] What is 'Grace?
POSTING RULES NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Sometime back, on a lazy evening my childhood friend asked me What is grace?I said it has nothing to do with beauty, but the way a person conducts himself/herself in daily life. I could recall so many people who had that quality. Here is one song from an old Urdu film, Anupama. Sharmila Tagore, the leading lady of the film exudes natural grace.Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - Anupama - Lata - Evergreen Hindi Songs | | | | | | | | | | | Kuchh Dil Ne Kaha - Dharmendra - Sharmila Tagore - An... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | There is another video, from the 1965 film, Dev Anand's 'The Guide', in which there is a traditional snake dance. Waheeda Rehaman, the heroine, effortlessly shows how the character in the film is seeking perfection in dance, her life's passion.Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D. Burman - Bollywood Dances | | | | | | | | | | | Snake Dance - Waheeda Rehman - Dev Anand - Guide - S.D... | | | | View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | May be it is diversion after months of debate on Greece.Vijaya Kumar M _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
