Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Well, first of all the Bolivarian Revolution is a Venezuelan concept. Bolivia is not as enamoured of Bolívar, who took a dim view of the country's indigenous majority. The original draft of the legislation would have banned child labour below the age of 16, as I recall. But in Bolivia there are still many young people, male and female, who are forced to work in the informal economy for their survival. Some are well organized; an example is the shoeshine kids (lustrabotas) who even have their own newspaper: http://lustrahormigon.wix.com/hormigon-armado#!__site-copy1. They were among the hundreds of kids who demonstrated at the legislature in December against the age threshold in the legislation. The scandal was not the draft bill but the police repression of their demonstration, which attracted a lot of protest in various social sectors and the media. The bill was then amended, on the recommendation of some of those same social sectors (including peasant families), lowering the age of eligibility for paid labour. Note the qualification: as long as it does not interfere with their education and is done independently to help the child's family make ends meet. This issue also has to be analyzed in the context of many other programs and initiatives tending toward reducing the need for child and adolescent labour and promoting educational opportunities. For example, Bolivia, one of the poorest countries in the hemisphere, provides free education at all levels, including university. Richard -Original Message- From: Marxism [mailto:marxism-boun...@lists.csbs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Louis Proyect via Marxism Sent: July-07-14 9:17 AM To: rfidle...@sympatico.ca Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == How does this square with a Bolivarian Revolution? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/05/bolivia-child-labor_n_5559784.html Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/rfidler_8%40sympatico.ca Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I had a sickening feeling that someone was actually going to rationalize this! On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Richard Fidler via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: This issue also has to be analyzed in the context of many other programs and initiatives tending toward reducing the need for child and adolescent labour and promoting educational opportunities. For example, Bolivia, one of the poorest countries in the hemisphere, provides free education at all levels, including university. Subject: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work How does this square with a Bolivarian Revolution? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/05/bolivia-child-labor_n_5559784.html Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == My question is if anyone can confirm the news. Several sources pop up when using different search engines, but I've failed to locate official information on the matter. The latest news from the Bolivian government on this are the president's intent to raise the minimum work age and the meeting with the union of child workers, that rejected that idea. Nonetheless, there's a very serious social problem when the children meet with the president of a state and tell him they need to work to support their families. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == *Bolivia* lowers *child labor* age restriction http://jurist.org/paperchase/2014/07/bolivia-lowers-child-labor-age-restriction.php JURIST - 13 hours ago In recent years, *child labor laws* has become a growing subject of international attention.The UN International Labor Organization (ILO) last year [JURIST report] released a report on *child labor* [text, PDF; press release] advocating social protections as the key ... *Bolivia* Passes *Law* To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/05/bolivia-child-labor_n_5559784.html Huffington Post - Jul 5, 2014 The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal* working age to 12 — again, as long the job does not interfere with the *child's* education. A regional official with the U.N. International *Labor* Organization, Carmen Moreno, says the legislation passed Wednesday night ... Germany criticizes *Bolivia's* lax *child labor law* http://www.dw.de/germany-criticizes-bolivias-lax-child-labor-law/a-17758936 Deutsche Welle - Jul 4, 2014 A senior lawmaker from Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democratic party has called on *Bolivian* president Evo Morales not to sign into *law* a measure allowing children to begin working at the age of 10. Politicians cannot regard *child labor* as a ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html *Bolivia* sanctions *child labour* as young as 10 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html Telegraph.co.uk - Jul 3, 2014 *Bolivian* lawmakers have approved *child workers* as young as 10 years old, under a new *law* that lays out specific conditions for employing children. Congress passed the measure by consensus on Wednesday, requiring employers to follow certain criteria to ... *Bolivia* passes *child labour law* http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140705/world/bolivia-passes-child-labour-law.526350 Times of Malta - Jul 5, 2014 *Bolivia's* Congress has passed legislation to allow *children* as young age 10 to work as long as it does not interfere with their education and is done independently to help the *child's* family make ends meet. The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal* working ... New *Bolivia law* would allow 10-year-olds to work http://www.komonews.com/news/national/New-Bolivia-law-would-allow-10-year-olds-to-work-265871061.html KOMO News - Jul 4, 2014 But, I just know there are folks here in America looking to angle a *law* such as this that will force those 25,000 illegal immigrant children in Arizona into some kind of *child labor* camp. margo 5pts. I think it is a good idea to let kids as young as 10 work. Â Kids ... Here are a bunch of news items on it. http://time.com/2956219/bolivia-to-allow-children-to-legally-work-at-just-10-years-old/ *Bolivia* to Allow *Children* to Legally Work at Just 10 Years Old http://time.com/2956219/bolivia-to-allow-children-to-legally-work-at-just-10-years-old/ TIME - Jul 4, 2014 While the minimum age for *child workers* was previously 14 with no exceptions, the new bill is more flexible and allows children to start “working for others from age 12, which is allowed by international conventions, and self-employment from age 10,” said Senator Adolfo Mendoza, co-sponsor of the bill, reports AFP. He emphasized that both the ... Critics of the previous *law* argue that children younger than 14 years old must work to help support their families in the impoverished South American country. Deputy Javier ... http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bolivia-allows-10-year-olds-work-legally-reduce-poverty-1455380 *Bolivia* Allows 10-Year-Olds to Work Legally to Reduce Poverty http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/bolivia-allows-10-year-olds-work-legally-reduce-poverty-1455380 International Business Times UK - Jul 4, 2014 Children as young as ten can now legally work in *Bolivia* thanks to a change in the *law* on *child labour*, which was signed in by President Evo Morales in an attempt to reduce poverty in the country. A 1999 *law* in the country set the minimum working age at 14. La Paz makes *child labour legal* http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/la-paz-makes-child-labour-legal.24682684 Herald Scotland - Jul 5, 2014 Carmen Moreno, of the UN International *Labour* Organisation, said the *law* would make *Bolivia* the first country to make work by 10-year-olds *legal* and called it worrisome in view of *Bolivia* having signed a UN convention that sets 14 as the minimum age for ... http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/140059/bolivia-to-allow-children-to-start-working-aged-10 *Bolivia* to allow *children* to start working aged 10
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The link from jurist.org links to the website of the Bolivian Senate, where you can find the information on the new Code for child and teenagers ( http://www.senado.bo/noticia/senado_aprueba_en_grande_y_detalle_nuevo_codigo_nina_nino_adolescente ). This states that Sobre la edad mínima para trabajar, está fijada a partir de los 14 años. (About the minimum work age, it is set to 14 years of age). As I suspected, despite all the information from other sources, the Senate raised the minimum work age. Ricardo Salabert Tel.:(+351)910261496 Skrill (Moneybookers) https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=17731961 [ https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=17731961] is the secure way to pay globally without revealing your financial details. With just your email address, you can send and spend with over 100 payment options, including all major credit and debit cards, in 200 countries. 2014-07-07 18:00 GMT+01:00 DW via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == *Bolivia* lowers *child labor* age restriction http://jurist.org/paperchase/2014/07/bolivia-lowers-child-labor-age-restriction.php JURIST - 13 hours ago In recent years, *child labor laws* has become a growing subject of international attention.The UN International Labor Organization (ILO) last year [JURIST report] released a report on *child labor* [text, PDF; press release] advocating social protections as the key ... *Bolivia* Passes *Law* To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/05/bolivia-child-labor_n_5559784.html Huffington Post - Jul 5, 2014 The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal* working age to 12 -- again, as long the job does not interfere with the *child's* education. A regional official with the U.N. International *Labor* Organization, Carmen Moreno, says the legislation passed Wednesday night ... Germany criticizes *Bolivia's* lax *child labor law* http://www.dw.de/germany-criticizes-bolivias-lax-child-labor-law/a-17758936 Deutsche Welle - Jul 4, 2014 A senior lawmaker from Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democratic party has called on *Bolivian* president Evo Morales not to sign into *law* a measure allowing children to begin working at the age of 10. Politicians cannot regard *child labor* as a ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html *Bolivia* sanctions *child labour* as young as 10 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html Telegraph.co.uk - Jul 3, 2014 *Bolivian* lawmakers have approved *child workers* as young as 10 years old, under a new *law* that lays out specific conditions for employing children. Congress passed the measure by consensus on Wednesday, requiring employers to follow certain criteria to ... *Bolivia* passes *child labour law* http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140705/world/bolivia-passes-child-labour-law.526350 Times of Malta - Jul 5, 2014 *Bolivia's* Congress has passed legislation to allow *children* as young age 10 to work as long as it does not interfere with their education and is done independently to help the *child's* family make ends meet. The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal* working ... New *Bolivia law* would allow 10-year-olds to work http://www.komonews.com/news/national/New-Bolivia-law-would-allow-10-year-olds-to-work-265871061.html KOMO News - Jul 4, 2014 But, I just know there are folks here in America looking to angle a *law* such as this that will force those 25,000 illegal immigrant children in Arizona into some kind of *child labor* camp. margo 5pts. I think it is a good idea to let kids as young as 10 work. Â Kids ... Here are a bunch of news items on it. http://time.com/2956219/bolivia-to-allow-children-to-legally-work-at-just-10-years-old/ *Bolivia* to Allow *Children* to Legally Work at Just 10 Years Old http://time.com/2956219/bolivia-to-allow-children-to-legally-work-at-just-10-years-old/ TIME - Jul 4, 2014 While the minimum age for *child workers* was previously 14 with no exceptions, the new bill is more flexible and allows children to start working for others from age 12, which is allowed by international conventions, and self-employment from age 10, said Senator Adolfo Mendoza, co-sponsor of the bill, reports AFP. He emphasized that both the ... Critics of the previous *law*
Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Bolivia Passes Law To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Criminalization of child labour (especially self-directed child labour) and the abolition of its necessity are completely separate issues. If children have to work to survive, the state should allow them to do so without harassment, allow their unionization as has happened in many places, and so forth. The second correct measure taken was to acknowledge that after the age of 10 to 13, depending on the cultural context and the individual, nobody is a child, but a teenager. Teenagers *want to* slowly grow into their role as full members of society, and that means at least being able to work. Of course it is problematic for a child to have to work more than a given part of the week (say, 15-20 hours). That, however, has very little to do with the law in question. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:10 PM, Ricardo Salabert via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu wrote: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == The link from jurist.org links to the website of the Bolivian Senate, where you can find the information on the new Code for child and teenagers ( http://www.senado.bo/noticia/senado_aprueba_en_grande_y_detalle_nuevo_codigo_nina_nino_adolescente ). This states that Sobre la edad mínima para trabajar, está fijada a partir de los 14 años. (About the minimum work age, it is set to 14 years of age). As I suspected, despite all the information from other sources, the Senate raised the minimum work age. Ricardo Salabert Tel.:(+351)910261496 Skrill (Moneybookers) https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=17731961 [ https://www.moneybookers.com/app/?rid=17731961] is the secure way to pay globally without revealing your financial details. With just your email address, you can send and spend with over 100 payment options, including all major credit and debit cards, in 200 countries. 2014-07-07 18:00 GMT+01:00 DW via Marxism marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == *Bolivia* lowers *child labor* age restriction http://jurist.org/paperchase/2014/07/bolivia-lowers-child-labor-age-restriction.php JURIST - 13 hours ago In recent years, *child labor laws* has become a growing subject of international attention.The UN International Labor Organization (ILO) last year [JURIST report] released a report on *child labor* [text, PDF; press release] advocating social protections as the key ... *Bolivia* Passes *Law* To Allow 10-Year-Olds To Work http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/05/bolivia-child-labor_n_5559784.html Huffington Post - Jul 5, 2014 The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal* working age to 12 -- again, as long the job does not interfere with the *child's* education. A regional official with the U.N. International *Labor* Organization, Carmen Moreno, says the legislation passed Wednesday night ... Germany criticizes *Bolivia's* lax *child labor law* http://www.dw.de/germany-criticizes-bolivias-lax-child-labor-law/a-17758936 Deutsche Welle - Jul 4, 2014 A senior lawmaker from Angela Merkel's conservative Christian Democratic party has called on *Bolivian* president Evo Morales not to sign into *law* a measure allowing children to begin working at the age of 10. Politicians cannot regard *child labor* as a ... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html *Bolivia* sanctions *child labour* as young as 10 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/10945253/Bolivia-sanctions-child-labour-as-young-as-10.html Telegraph.co.uk - Jul 3, 2014 *Bolivian* lawmakers have approved *child workers* as young as 10 years old, under a new *law* that lays out specific conditions for employing children. Congress passed the measure by consensus on Wednesday, requiring employers to follow certain criteria to ... *Bolivia* passes *child labour law* http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140705/world/bolivia-passes-child-labour-law.526350 Times of Malta - Jul 5, 2014 *Bolivia's* Congress has passed legislation to allow *children* as young age 10 to work as long as it does not interfere with their education and is done independently to help the *child's* family make ends meet. The legislation otherwise lowers the *legal*
