Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Christian Parenti on the State, Humanity as Part of Nature and the Malleability of Capitalism

2015-05-20 Thread Louis Proyect via Marxism

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On 5/20/15 6:49 PM, Shalva Eliava wrote:

You'll have to produce some quotes to back up your assessment of
Cronon's perspective. Unless he has fundamentally changed his
perspective since he wrote Changes in the Land, I cannot see how he
is a proponent of green capitalism.


I have a long critique of Cronon in the upcoming weekend CounterPunch. 
This is just a warm-up. It was Donald Worster who applied the term 
green capitalism to him, not me. Worster's Changes in the Land and 
Nature's Metropolis are certainly valuable works even though I find 
something lacking in them that I don't find in Mike Davis. It his essay 
on The Trouble with Wilderness that I find really, really bad. It puts 
into the foreground what was lurking beneath the surface in his earlier 
work. I deal with it in my article.

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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Christian Parenti on the State, Humanity as Part of Nature and the Malleability of Capitalism

2015-05-18 Thread Thomas via Marxism
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The development of civilization and of industry in general has ever shown 
itself so active in the destruction of forests, that everything done by it for 
their preservation, compared to its destructive effect, appears infinitesimal.
-- Karl Marx; Capital: A Critique Of Political Economy; Volume II; The Process 
Of The Circulation Of Capital



On 5/18/15 9:30 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote:
 This is his reply--he calls his position closer to Green Capitalist
 than Karl Marx

Left out the link: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/pen-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu/msg38031.html
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