Re: [Marxism] Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The serious discussion to be had is whether Bannon can barge his way through to a Keynesianism of the Right or whether we will have a doubling down of neoliberalism. I don't think Bannon will succeed because there is no Left that would frighten the American ruling class into abandoning the dictates of the Chicago School. Comradely Gary On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Mark Lause via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > The common thinking on this is that Trump has had a terribly narrow > experience. He's only run his own company and has never really had to > learn the arts of persuasion or work as part of team. I think he does what > he thinks has worked for him in the past, but that's not the same as having > a long term strategic planning. > > This is a problem of a contemporary American civil society. There are > variations of this in both political parties . . . .and across the Left, as > well. > > ML > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary. > maclennan1%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * Hi Daniel, Weak, naive and stupid are of course all subjective criteria and you are probably right about the analysis, but it was enjoyable. To be honest though I myself am inclined to think Trump is as stupid as dog shit on a hot day. Give most of us an ultra rich parent and a few hundred sycophants surrounding us we all might look quite smart. But the truth is that he is representative of a very deep crisis in American capital. I look at things from Brisbane and to be honest I cannot believe that the arrogance of the American ruling class was such that they would go to a buffoon with a severe narcissism disorder like Trump. At times I think we have not seen such arrogance since the German ruling class went with Hitler. comradely regards Gary On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Daniel Lindvall via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > Trump manoeuvred his way to the US presidency. He has lived a life of - > from his point of view - almost nothing but success, a life that has > probably been almost exactly the way he wanted it. The guy is obviously an > utter asshole and a sociopath, but ”weak”, ”naive”, "stupid"..? Come on! > > Website: http://filmint.nu/ > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/FilmInt > Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/FilmInt > > > > > 28 juli 2017 kl. 21:19 skrev Louis Proyect via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu>: > > > > POSTING RULES & NOTES > > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > > * > > > > (Peggy Noonan was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon.) > > > > WSJ Op-Ed, July 28, 2017 > > Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor > > Half his tweets show utter weakness. They are plaintive, shrill little > cries, usually just after dawn. > > By Peggy Noonan > > > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/gary. > maclennan1%40gmail.com > _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * The common thinking on this is that Trump has had a terribly narrow experience. He's only run his own company and has never really had to learn the arts of persuasion or work as part of team. I think he does what he thinks has worked for him in the past, but that's not the same as having a long term strategic planning. This is a problem of a contemporary American civil society. There are variations of this in both political parties . . . .and across the Left, as well. ML _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
Re: [Marxism] Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor
POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. * This cheered me up on a foggy Monday morning! Speech writer Richard Nixon, eh? In any case she has Trump down pat. comradely Gary On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:19 AM, Louis Proyect via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > POSTING RULES & NOTES > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > * > > (Peggy Noonan was a speechwriter for Richard Nixon.) > > WSJ Op-Ed, July 28, 2017 > Trump Is Woody Allen Without the Humor > Half his tweets show utter weakness. They are plaintive, shrill little > cries, usually just after dawn. > By Peggy Noonan > > The president’s primary problem as a leader is not that he is impetuous, > brash or naive. It’s not that he is inexperienced, crude, an outsider. It > is that he is weak and sniveling. It is that he undermines himself almost > daily by ignoring traditional norms and forms of American masculinity. > > He’s not strong and self-controlled, not cool and tough, not low-key and > determined; he’s whiny, weepy and self-pitying. He throws himself, sobbing, > on the body politic. He’s a drama queen. It was once said, sarcastically, > of George H.W. Bush that he reminded everyone of her first husband. Trump > must remind people of their first wife. Actually his wife, Melania, is > tougher than he is with her stoicism and grace, her self-discipline and > desire to show the world respect by presenting herself with dignity. > > Half the president’s tweets show utter weakness. They are plaintive, > shrill little cries, usually just after dawn. “It’s very sad that > Republicans, even some that were carried over the line on my back, do very > little to protect their president.” The brutes. Actually they’ve been > laboring to be loyal to him since Inauguration Day. “The Republicans never > discuss how good their health care bill is.” True, but neither does Mr. > Trump, who seems unsure of its content. In just the past two weeks, of the > press, he complained: “Every story/opinion, even if should be positive, is > bad!” Journalists produce “highly slanted & even fraudulent reporting.” > They are “DISTORTING DEMOCRACY.” They “fabricate the facts.” > > It’s all whimpering accusation and finger-pointing: Nobody’s nice to me. > Why don’t they appreciate me? > > His public brutalizing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions isn’t strong, > cool and deadly; it’s limp, lame and blubbery. “Sessions has taken a VERY > weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes,” he tweeted this week. Talk about > projection. > > He told the Journal’s Michael C. Bender he is disappointed in Mr. Sessions > and doesn’t feel any particular loyalty toward him. “He was a senator, he > looks at 40,000 people and he probably says, ‘What do I have to lose?’ And > he endorsed me. So it’s not like a great loyal thing about the > endorsement.” Actually, Mr. Sessions supported him early and put his > personal credibility on the line. In Politico, John J. Pitney Jr. of > Claremont McKenna College writes: “Loyalty is about strength. It is about > sticking with a person, a cause, an idea or a country even when it is > costly, difficult or unpopular.” A strong man does that. A weak one would > unleash his resentments and derive sadistic pleasure from their unleashing. > > The way American men used to like seeing themselves, the template they > most admired, was the strong silent type celebrated in classic mid-20th > century films—Gary Cooper, John Wayne, Henry Fonda. In time the style > shifted, and we wound up with the nervous and chattery. More than a decade > ago the producer and writer David Chase had his Tony Soprano mourn the > disappearance of the old style: “What they didn’t know is once they got > Gary Cooper in touch with his feelings they wouldn’t be able to shut him > up!” The new style was more like that of Woody Allen. His characters > couldn’t stop talking about their emotions, their resentments and needs. > They were self-justifying as they acted out their cowardice and anger. > > _ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/opt > ions/marxism/gary.maclennan1%40gmail.com _ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
