Re: [MLL] Good Accounts of Soviet Foreign Policy

2009-10-22 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 10/22/2009 11:09:04 AM Mountain Daylight Time, editor_rev...@indiatimes.com writes: Gromyko: Soviet Foreign Policy 1917- 1980 (2 Volumes) Moscow 1980. this was a second, revised, updated edition -- the first volume (1917-45) was originally issued in 1969 -- but I have not

Re: [MLL] Race and the Obama campaign: What about Econmic communism?

2008-04-27 Thread DLVinvest
well put Douglas L. Vaughan, Jr. Investigations for Print, Film Electronic Media 3140 W. 32nd Ave. Denver CO 80211 303-455-9429 ___ Marxist-Leninist-List mailing list Marxist-Leninist-List@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe

Re: [MLL] Lenin, Obama and this stage of capitalism (notes)

2008-04-15 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 4/5/2008 12:05:09 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Soviet Union went revisionist and even imperialist and finally disappeared, as I understand Waistline's thesis, which may be overly determinist economically, the USSR was doomed to fail because of

Re: [MLL] Lenin, Obama and this stage of capitalism (notes) expanded

2008-04-15 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 4/10/2008 3:30:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] in response to H. Brown, or vice versa -- I can't tell] writes: (First comment) The doctrine that capitalism collapses under the pressure of great economic strikes - mainly as the result of an act of

Re: [MLL] Lenin, Obama and this stage of capitalism (notes) expanded

2008-04-15 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 4/9/2008 11:03:53 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lenin was of course born and reared in a world of feudalism, when capitalism and the industrial revolution had not regulated feudalism to the dustbin bind of history. . Not merely an historical

Re: [MLL] Lenin, Obama and this stage of capitalism (notes)

2008-04-15 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 4/15/2008 11:21:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: both countries backslided to capitalism very fast after the death of Chairman Mao Enver Hoxha, just as the USSR backslid after the death of Stalin part of the problem is the formulation backslid --

Re: [MLL] Americans WILL NOT do farm labor,

2008-04-12 Thread DLVinvest
Many have, some still do, some always will, especially when they feel they have no other choice. Farm labor is not what it used to be, and never all that it was cracked up to be. What remains of farm labor in the US is mostly cutting, lifting and hauling of fruits and vegetables for people in

Re: [MLL] Informative article about the international class struggle against ...

2008-04-03 Thread DLVinvest
Sorry, but this article is gibberish: no inquiry, no science, no effort to determine facts or separate them from fiction, only a superficial opinion poorly expressed, with no attribution to sources upon which opinion is based. But it's about the international class struggle, supposedly --

Re: [MLL] reversion to feudalism, fascism?

2008-04-01 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 4/1/2008 9:35:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There have been very few cases, perhaps even none, where a capitalist country has reverted back to feudalism, . . . But capitalism did turn towards Fascism, and then crony capitalism (of the

Re: [MLL] A WORKERS UPRISING CAN ECLIPSE A GHETTO RIOT ANYTIME

2008-03-28 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/24/2008 5:14:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [1984 article on Greyhound strike fwd'd by] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With no perspectives for creating a different type of society, based on equality and freedom, most rank-and-filers fell into the self-defeating attitude

Re: [MLL] At present, much more fun over at the list MLL!

2008-03-28 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/26/2008 3:11:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what's needed is knowledge obtained first hand from the ground in practical situations of having to apply the theory amidst imperfect real-life constraits and situations indeed, but this list has had

Re: [MLL] More thoughts on militarism and terror

2008-03-28 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/24/2008 8:05:31 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: suggest that we all do more studies on these ghetto riots. Good idea: Studying history is certainly better than name-calling based on ignorance of the phenomenon to be learned from: Harlem 1964, for

Re: [MLL] What is democracy? The wage struggle not meaning of class struggle

2008-03-28 Thread DLVinvest
My take on this mini-debate: The wage struggle is the main form of the class struggle within the bounds of capitalist relations of production and given the private property in means of production that renders the workingclass bereft of property and capital. The economic struggle of workers for

Re: [MLL] WORKERS UPRISINGS: The Ludlow Massacre

2008-03-28 Thread DLVinvest
One of the most inspirational events of my life was to visit the tiny Ludlow Memorial when it sat unmarked a few miles off Interstate 25 south of Pueble toward Trinidad, back when we were organized miners in the southern Colorado coalfields 30 years ago. There wasn't even a sign to show the way

Re: [MLL] Criticism of Three Worlds Theory

2006-05-11 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 5/11/06 5:16:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: difference between Stalin and Mao in 1927 my reading suggests the differences were not so much personal as national-political re: strategy of how to characterize the class conflicts in China, and thus

Re: [MLL] RE: Moving the discussion on

2006-05-09 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 5/9/06 4:28:17 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Obvously anyone living in a mostly urban habitation is going to be better off than someone from a mostly rural habitation. this is not so obvious as it might appear: in China today, as in US during

Re: [MLL] Sharp Debate Erupts in China

2006-03-13 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/12/06 12:56:34 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The roots of the current debate can be traced to a biting critique of the property rights law that circulated on the Internet last summer. The critique's author, Gong Xiantian, a professor at Beijing

Re: [MLL] RE: Reaffirmation of Marxism-Leninism

2006-03-13 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/10/06 2:02:18 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your disagreement with me on armed struggle is noted and respected but if you notice no discussion has been forwarded on this point...only slanderous diatribes by Melvin and his sidekick Vaughn who has

[MLL] Re: A call for Expulsion

2006-03-09 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/9/06 12:31:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Expel Melvin? What a ridiculous and insulting suggestion. I think if Melvin were to disappear from this list (and there's every indication that further insults and provocations would ensure he spend

Re: [MLL] Re: A call for Expulsion

2006-03-09 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 3/9/06 1:13:53 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as I know, domestic revolutions and political sea changes like the French Revolution, Bolshevik Revolution, the coming to power of Hitler, the ouster of President Marcos and President Suharto of

Re: [MLL] Yu Chi Chan (Guerrilla Warfare) PT 1

2005-12-14 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 12/14/05 1:14:06 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amidst constant change we are to identify certain broad tendencies operating in a given society, a knowledge of which might facilitate political intervention in a particular direction and lay the basis

Re: [MLL] Sino-Soviet Split [armed struggle] Win the workers to communism

2005-12-03 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 12/2/05 5:44:16 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: People have a right to socially necessary means of life even if they have no money. right! and right on! that is the method and the goal, the means and the end, the cause, the solution, the strategy, the

Re: [MLL] Socialism betrayed: A talk by Thomas Kenny

2005-09-30 Thread DLVinvest
Mark-- thanks for your reply. My only point was that the material conditions for re-organization of society along communist lines on a global scale already exist; what is lacking is not greater development of productive forces but the organized consciousness of masses into a revolutionary

Re: [MLL] (no subject)

2005-01-26 Thread DLVinvest
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Re: [MLL] Reply to Melvin

2004-07-24 Thread DLVinvest
M, I think your last reply to donoloc was the clearest expression yet of your formulation of the problem of the transition to socialism and its limits in the industrial system, including the sources of counter-revolutionary restoration. Howeevr, there needs to be some debate and development of

Re: [MLL] Questions to Melvin on Soviet Collapse . . .again

2004-07-15 Thread DLVinvest
Brother M -- too much in all this and some way too true -- especially about being sustained by class-hatred through all that shiit we suffered (and suffereing we inflicted on our own families and loved ones sometime), so I'm sending another kind of reply off-list. We only have one life. We

Re: [MLL] Questions to Melvin on Soviet Collapse

2004-07-11 Thread DLVinvest
In a message dated 7/9/04 3:15:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. If ones objective is communist society . . . a society based on advanced means of production that has radically ousted huge segments of labor from the production process is there no way to get to

Re: [MLL] DoC is not Melvin P.

2004-06-24 Thread DLVinvest
glad to hear it -- and equally happy to see that this new discourse is off to a start worthy of the other's finish. But there are 8 million stories in the Naked Cyber-city and not all of them can be one of them. yikes! reminds me when I was about 15 a friend and I went to a bar (underaged, as