Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Michiel de Hoon
I can join this Thursday if we start with the discussion on timers. If we can start 1 hour earlier (14:00 UTC, 9 am ET, 23:00 in Japan) that would be even better. -Michiel. On Mon, 1/13/14, Michael Droettboom wrote: Subject: [matplotlib-devel] Mee

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Droettboom
I'm fine with starting the meeting an hour early. How about others? Mike On 01/14/2014 04:57 AM, Michiel de Hoon wrote: > I can join this Thursday if we start with the discussion on timers. > If we can start 1 hour earlier (14:00 UTC, 9 am ET, 23:00 in Japan) that > would be even better. > -Mic

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Benjamin Root
That would actually work a little bit better for me... I just have to remember to get into work a little bit earlier. Ben On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Michael Droettboom wrote: > I'm fine with starting the meeting an hour early. How about others? > > Mike > > On 01/14/2014 04:57 AM, Michie

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Jacob Vanderplas
I'll probably not be able to swing 6am on the west coast, but other folks are more important for this call, I think :) Jake On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Benjamin Root wrote: > That would actually work a little bit better for me... I just have to > remember to get into work a little bit e

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Droettboom
Jake: I'd definitely like to get you into one of these calls at some point. If you're able to pop in late, that would still be great -- or we can save that for another date. Trying to get Japan, three NA timezones and the UK all together is challenging ;) In any event, with Thomas, Ben, Mich

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Jacob Vanderplas
Thanks - we'll make it happen at some point. Perhaps I can give the seed for a discussion: the stuff I've been doing with mpld3 is a lot of fun, but it's fundamentally limited by the fact that I have to dig around the internals of the figure object to find the relevant information to construct a p

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Jason Grout
On 1/14/14, 1:30 PM, Jacob Vanderplas wrote: > Ugly hacks aside, I think all of this points to a general desire for a > new type of backend-like hook that can export dynamic plot elements in > data coordinates, and static plot elements in figure coordinates. An > enhancement in that direction coul

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Droettboom
I'm sure it's obvious, but the backend API was never really designed with this in mind. It was designed for "dumb" things like screens and printers that know about simple primitives like lines and text, but not much else. From that, I don't think it makes much sense to change or even extend t

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Jacob Vanderplas
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Michael Droettboom wrote: > > I hope all of the above makes sense... > Definitely makes sense: what I've built-up in mpld3 is essentially something that mimics this sort of visitor pattern, though it misses some things because of the draw-time difficulties you me

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Cyrille Rossant
> What I'd love to see is some enhancement of the backend framework where > there are some extra flags and information passed to the renderer: i.e. for > each draw command, we need to know whether the drawn object should be linked > to static figure coordinates or to dynamic axes/data coordinates.

Re: [matplotlib-devel] Meeting...?

2014-01-14 Thread Chris Beaumont
I have another long-simmering feature request along these lines: if Matplotlib were to evolve a formal DOM-like figure structure like mentioned above, it would be cool if this structure retained more semantic information about the visualization itself. By this, I mean that many high-level commands