[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07
[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
Deb, You can do this with Adobe Bridge by entering sRGB as the data value in the search metadata box. I agree this would also be a simple matter for most DAMs as well. Alan Newman On 4/4/07 9:39 AM, Deborah Wythe deborahwythe at hotmail.com wrote: Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
Thanks for the replies. We haven't implemented our DAMS yet and yes, I hope that we'll be able to track color space. Since we don't know how many files are afflicted, I need to work back from the files to the days they were created and/or the machine(s) involved, rather than the other way around. There are a couple of reasons we're concerned that things are getting converted, other than the mere fact that something is happening that we didn't intend (bad enough). Even though it's minimal, sRGB is a smaller color space than Adobe RGB, so you're losing information in the master file -- never a good thing. The other problem is that opening them in PhotoShop sometimes generates an error message missing data, which, frankly, looks unprofessional when you send images out, and we've also had problems saving until we go through editing the color settings and assinging the correct profile. Gremlins in the system! Deb Original Message Follows From: Jeff Evans jfev...@princeton.edu Reply-To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:59:34 -0400 Deb - some higher end DAMs will track that, if you tell them too early on. But I have found mis-profiled images sometimes by date of edit, or by determining which machine may have had the incorrect setting. May I ask why you need to worry? Due to monitor differences, it would be hard to tell the difference between sRGB and 1998. Or, are these files halting a process due to their embedded profile? (that may just be a color-setting change in Photoshop.) JEFF Jeffrey Evans Digital Imaging Specialist Princeton University Art Museum 609.258.8579 On Apr 4, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l _ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3
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[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
Deb, Adobe Bridge should do the job for you. It will return a list of all sRGB-embedded files after query without opening Photoshop. Alan On 4/4/07 3:14 PM, Deborah Wythe deborahwythe at hotmail.com wrote: Thanks for the replies. We haven't implemented our DAMS yet and yes, I hope that we'll be able to track color space. Since we don't know how many files are afflicted, I need to work back from the files to the days they were created and/or the machine(s) involved, rather than the other way around. There are a couple of reasons we're concerned that things are getting converted, other than the mere fact that something is happening that we didn't intend (bad enough). Even though it's minimal, sRGB is a smaller color space than Adobe RGB, so you're losing information in the master file -- never a good thing. The other problem is that opening them in PhotoShop sometimes generates an error message missing data, which, frankly, looks unprofessional when you send images out, and we've also had problems saving until we go through editing the color settings and assinging the correct profile. Gremlins in the system! Deb Original Message Follows From: Jeff Evans jfevans at Princeton.EDU Reply-To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu To: Museum Computer Network Listserv mcn-l at mcn.edu Subject: Re: [MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 09:59:34 -0400 Deb - some higher end DAMs will track that, if you tell them too early on. But I have found mis-profiled images sometimes by date of edit, or by determining which machine may have had the incorrect setting. May I ask why you need to worry? Due to monitor differences, it would be hard to tell the difference between sRGB and 1998. Or, are these files halting a process due to their embedded profile? (that may just be a color-setting change in Photoshop.) JEFF Jeffrey Evans Digital Imaging Specialist Princeton University Art Museum 609.258.8579 On Apr 4, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l _ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
[MCN-L] DM-SiG: searching by color profile
This is what it would look like on my end using Aperture. The numbers in bold white under Calendar are the capture dates of the found set. -- next part -- On Apr 4, 2007, at 6:39 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Hi all -- Does anyone know if there's a way to search file lists by color profile without opening every file? We have an occasional problem withTIF files created in Adobe RGB (1998) getting converted into sRGB somewhere in the pipeline. Part of diagnosing where the problem is happening means finding the TIF files that are in sRGB. Suggestions welcomed! Thanks, Deb Wythe Deborah Wythe Head, Digital Collections and Services Brooklyn Museum 200 Eastern Parkway Brooklyn, NY 11238 tel: 718 501 6311 fax: 718 501 6145 deborahwythe at hotmail.com _ Download Messenger. Join the i?m Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l
