[MCN-L] NPG and Wikipedia (IP, website security)
Interesting dustup. A Wikipedia person went in a backdoor on the NPG site and scraped fullsize images and posted them on Wikipedia as public domain. NPG brought in the lawyers to argue that in Britain the 2-D non-copyrightable precedent hasn't been argued. http://www.peoplepoints.co.nz/2009/07/wikimedia-commons-national-portrait.html http://londonist.com/2009/07/national_portrait_gallery_to_sue_wi.php http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat Website security: From the NPG cease desist letter: As you know, the images from our client?s website that you have copied were made available from our client?s website using Zoomify software. As you know, Zoomify is an application that is used to publish photographic images in such a way that an entire high resolution image is never made available to a user although high-resolution extracts or tiles are made available one-at-a-time. Our client used the Zoomify technology to protect our client?s copyright in the high resolution images. NPG's policy/price sheet for web use: http://www.npg.org.uk/business/images/use-on-web.php Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. _ Bing? brings you health information from trusted sources. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1
[MCN-L] NPG and Wikipedia (IP, website security)
Excellent sleuthing! You're right. The Bridgeman-Corel decision that went against Bridgeman was never appealed for fear that the appeal would also go against Bridgeman and result in a much wider application of the case law even in the US beyond the district in which the case was brought. Leaving the DMCA's prohibition on circumventing digital protections aside for the moment, might this be the sound of the other shoe dropping? The NPG have certainly teed this up in a way that will be difficult to ignore - in law or public policy. ken Kenneth Hamma +1 310 270 8008 khamma at me.com 368 Patel Place Palm Springs CA 92264 On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Interesting dustup. A Wikipedia person went in a backdoor on the NPG site and scraped fullsize images and posted them on Wikipedia as public domain. NPG brought in the lawyers to argue that in Britain the 2-D non-copyrightable precedent hasn't been argued. http://www.peoplepoints.co.nz/2009/07/wikimedia-commons-national-portrait.html http://londonist.com/2009/07/national_portrait_gallery_to_sue_wi.php http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat Website security: From the NPG cease desist letter: As you know, the images from our client?s website that you have copied were made available from our client?s website using Zoomify software. As you know, Zoomify is an application that is used to publish photographic images in such a way that an entire high resolution image is never made available to a user although high-resolution extracts or tiles are made available one- at-a-time. Our client used the Zoomify technology to protect our client?s copyright in the high resolution images. NPG's policy/price sheet for web use: http://www.npg.org.uk/business/images/use-on-web.php Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail?. See how. _ Bing? brings you health information from trusted sources. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TXT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/
[MCN-L] NPG and Wikipedia (IP, website security)
Wow. I have to admit that I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, I'm utterly appalled that someone would circumvent NPG's security measures, when they were clearly in place to protect their assets while providing access. That, to me, should be actionable. On the other, I rather wish that NPG would have provided the world with decent-quality (if not necessarily reproduction-quality) images of those works. Zoomify is great, but the quality provided by those thumbnails isn't helpful for a number of purposes. I really like the VA's approach and have tried to apply that philosophy here at the Magnes, to a degree. Really curious about the opinions of your experts out there. Perian Sully Collections Information Manager Web Programs Strategist The Magnes Berkeley, CA -Original Message- From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu] On Behalf Of Kenneth Hamma Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:58 AM To: Museum Computer Network Listserv Subject: Re: [MCN-L] NPG and Wikipedia (IP, website security) Excellent sleuthing! You're right. The Bridgeman-Corel decision that went against Bridgeman was never appealed for fear that the appeal would also go against Bridgeman and result in a much wider application of the case law even in the US beyond the district in which the case was brought. Leaving the DMCA's prohibition on circumventing digital protections aside for the moment, might this be the sound of the other shoe dropping? The NPG have certainly teed this up in a way that will be difficult to ignore - in law or public policy. ken Kenneth Hamma +1 310 270 8008 khamma at me.com 368 Patel Place Palm Springs CA 92264 On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:36 AM, Deborah Wythe wrote: Interesting dustup. A Wikipedia person went in a backdoor on the NPG site and scraped fullsize images and posted them on Wikipedia as public domain. NPG brought in the lawyers to argue that in Britain the 2-D non-copyrightable precedent hasn't been argued. http://www.peoplepoints.co.nz/2009/07/wikimedia-commons-national-portrai t.html http://londonist.com/2009/07/national_portrait_gallery_to_sue_wi.php http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat Website security: From the NPG cease desist letter: As you know, the images from our client's website that you have copied were made available from our client's website using Zoomify software. As you know, Zoomify is an application that is used to publish photographic images in such a way that an entire high resolution image is never made available to a user although high-resolution extracts or tiles are made available one- at-a-time. Our client used the Zoomify technology to protect our client's copyright in the high resolution images. NPG's policy/price sheet for web use: http://www.npg.org.uk/business/images/use-on-web.php Deborah Wythe Brooklyn Museum deborahwythe at hotmail.com Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail(r). See how. _ Bing(tm) brings you health information from trusted sources. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=pet+allergyform=MHEINApubl=WLHMTAGcrea=T XT_MHEINA_Health_Health_PetAllergy_1x1 ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ ___ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: mcn-l at mcn.edu To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l The MCN-L archives can be found at: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/pipermail/mcn-l/ Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2235 - Release Date: 07/13/09 05:56:00