Hi Dalton, Sina and Tim,

Thanks very much for your honest assessments! It’s so helpful to have 
additional opinions from experts in the field. I’m not familiar with craftcms 
but will look into it and suggest that the client’s web team does too.

Best,

Robin

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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:58:37 -0400
> From: Robin White Owen <ro...@mediacombo.net>
> To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
> Subject: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
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> Hi all,
> 
> I?ve been asked to evaluate Expression Engine as a web platform, compared to 
> Drupal or Wordpress. I?d love to hear from any of you whose sites are built 
> in EE and why you chose to use it. 
> 
> Also, from those of you who?ve compared EE with the others and chose not to 
> use it.
> 
> Thanks very much in advance, as always,
> 
> Robin
> 
> Robin White Owen
> M: 917/407-7641
> T: 646/472-5145
> ro...@mediacombo.net
> MediaCombo <http://www.mediacombo.net/>
> @rocombo <http://twitter.com/rocombo>
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:16:46 -0700
> From: Dalton Rooney <dal...@madebyraygun.com>
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Hi Robin,
> I've worked with WordPress, Drupal, and ExpressionEngine over the years,
> and all three have their strengths and weaknesses. A few years ago I would
> have recommended EE as a solid contender for a web CMS but the company
> behind the product seems to have lost a lot of momentum and many developers
> are moving to other platforms.
> 
> Have you heard of Craft CMS <https://craftcms.com/>? It is a newer CMS that
> picks up where EE left off - it's fast, robust, and actively developed. It
> incorporates flexible content management with a solid plugin ecosystem,
> including a commerce module and API support. We've been using it for most
> of our projects over the last year or two and have had a lot of success
> with it.
> 
> Happy to answer any additional questions!
> 
> Best,
> Dalton
> __
> 
> Raygun
> https://madebyraygun.com
> (619) 255-6218
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:58 AM Robin White Owen <ro...@mediacombo.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?ve been asked to evaluate Expression Engine as a web platform, compared
>> to Drupal or Wordpress. I?d love to hear from any of you whose sites are
>> built in EE and why you chose to use it.
>> 
>> Also, from those of you who?ve compared EE with the others and chose not
>> to use it.
>> 
>> Thanks very much in advance, as always,
>> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> Robin White Owen
>> M: 917/407-7641
>> T: 646/472-5145
>> ro...@mediacombo.net
>> MediaCombo <http://www.mediacombo.net/>
>> @rocombo <http://twitter.com/rocombo>
>> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 14:23:28 -0400
> From: "Sina Bahram" <s...@sinabahram.com>
> To: "'Museum Computer Network Listserv'" <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
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> My $0.02. WordPress now powers around 30% of all sites on the entire web. It 
> has thousands upon thousands of contributions from hundreds to thousands of 
> developers, and it's essentially as close to "easy" as possible to hire 
> someone with experience, either technically as a developer or content-wise as 
> a contributor, to WordPress. It also has pretty solid accessibility out of 
> the box, something that I'm of course passionate about.
> 
> Having said that, it's hardly perfect; therefore, is there something specific 
> that WP doesn't do that you're looking for another platform to do for you?
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
> Twitter: @SinaBahram
> Company Website: https://www.pac.bz
> Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com
> Blog: https://blog.SinaBahram.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcn-l <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> On Behalf Of Dalton Rooney
> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 2:17 PM
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
> 
> Hi Robin,
> I've worked with WordPress, Drupal, and ExpressionEngine over the years,
> and all three have their strengths and weaknesses. A few years ago I would
> have recommended EE as a solid contender for a web CMS but the company
> behind the product seems to have lost a lot of momentum and many developers
> are moving to other platforms.
> 
> Have you heard of Craft CMS <https://craftcms.com/>? It is a newer CMS that
> picks up where EE left off - it's fast, robust, and actively developed. It
> incorporates flexible content management with a solid plugin ecosystem,
> including a commerce module and API support. We've been using it for most
> of our projects over the last year or two and have had a lot of success
> with it.
> 
> Happy to answer any additional questions!
> 
> Best,
> Dalton
> __
> 
> Raygun
> https://madebyraygun.com
> (619) 255-6218
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:58 AM Robin White Owen <ro...@mediacombo.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I?ve been asked to evaluate Expression Engine as a web platform, compared
>> to Drupal or Wordpress. I?d love to hear from any of you whose sites are
>> built in EE and why you chose to use it.
>> 
>> Also, from those of you who?ve compared EE with the others and chose not
>> to use it.
>> 
>> Thanks very much in advance, as always,
>> 
>> Robin
>> 
>> Robin White Owen
>> M: 917/407-7641
>> T: 646/472-5145
>> ro...@mediacombo.net
>> MediaCombo <http://www.mediacombo.net/>
>> @rocombo <http://twitter.com/rocombo>
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 10:50:46 +0200
> From: Tim Alley <t...@alley.co>
> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
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> I agree with Sina. 
> 
> Always adopt software where the community is and where it's going. This gives 
> you the best possibilities of longterm support and cheaper labor. It usually 
> also leads to a more secure product (as long as you update your software).
> 
> Expression Engine would be fine for a single artist website maybe 5 years 
> ago, I would never recommend it now. Drupal is fine, just more expensive in 
> the long run. 
> 
> WordPress heads above the others. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Tim 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2018, at 20:23, Sina Bahram <s...@sinabahram.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My $0.02. WordPress now powers around 30% of all sites on the entire web. It 
>> has thousands upon thousands of contributions from hundreds to thousands of 
>> developers, and it's essentially as close to "easy" as possible to hire 
>> someone with experience, either technically as a developer or content-wise 
>> as a contributor, to WordPress. It also has pretty solid accessibility out 
>> of the box, something that I'm of course passionate about.
>> 
>> Having said that, it's hardly perfect; therefore, is there something 
>> specific that WP doesn't do that you're looking for another platform to do 
>> for you?
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>> 
>> President, Prime Access Consulting, Inc.
>> Twitter: @SinaBahram
>> Company Website: https://www.pac.bz
>> Personal Website: https://www.sinabahram.com
>> Blog: https://blog.SinaBahram.com
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mcn-l <mcn-l-boun...@mcn.edu> On Behalf Of Dalton Rooney
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 2:17 PM
>> To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <mcn-l@mcn.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Expression Engine
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> I've worked with WordPress, Drupal, and ExpressionEngine over the years,
>> and all three have their strengths and weaknesses. A few years ago I would
>> have recommended EE as a solid contender for a web CMS but the company
>> behind the product seems to have lost a lot of momentum and many developers
>> are moving to other platforms.
>> 
>> Have you heard of Craft CMS <https://craftcms.com/>? It is a newer CMS that
>> picks up where EE left off - it's fast, robust, and actively developed. It
>> incorporates flexible content management with a solid plugin ecosystem,
>> including a commerce module and API support. We've been using it for most
>> of our projects over the last year or two and have had a lot of success
>> with it.
>> 
>> Happy to answer any additional questions!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dalton
>> __
>> 
>> Raygun
>> https://madebyraygun.com
>> (619) 255-6218
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:58 AM Robin White Owen <ro...@mediacombo.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I?ve been asked to evaluate Expression Engine as a web platform, compared
>>> to Drupal or Wordpress. I?d love to hear from any of you whose sites are
>>> built in EE and why you chose to use it.
>>> 
>>> Also, from those of you who?ve compared EE with the others and chose not
>>> to use it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much in advance, as always,
>>> 
>>> Robin
>>> 
>>> Robin White Owen
>>> M: 917/407-7641
>>> T: 646/472-5145
>>> ro...@mediacombo.net
>>> MediaCombo <http://www.mediacombo.net/>
>>> @rocombo <http://twitter.com/rocombo>
>>> 
>>> 
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