Re: [MCN-L] Searchable MCN-L archive is complete

2015-05-30 Thread Chuck Patch
A long time coming, and very welcome. Thanks, you guys! It's a real service.

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Rob Lancefield on lists 
li...@lancefield.net wrote:

 Thanks, Matt. Great work!

 Just for the record, everyone, the content we folded in from my saved
 postings from the earliest years is somewhat selective, based on pruning I
 did for a personal email migration long ago; so there are fewer
 announcements and such than were actually posted to MCN-L back in the day.

 That said, it gives a good sense of what topics were in play in the list's
 early years--back when, for example, having an Internet SIG made sense,
 and when locking down Netscape Navigator for kiosks was a thing, and so
 on.

 And it does have the MCN-L ur-message!

 cheers,
 Rob

 On Sat, May 30, 2015 11:27 am, Matt Morgan wrote:
  For many years MCN-L's online archive was only spottily indexed by
  search engines and so wasn't super-usable. Starting last fall I began to
  fix that, and Rob Lancefield joined me a few months ago to make the new,
  fully-searchable archive as complete as it can be

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Re: [MCN-L] mcn-l Digest, Vol 116, Issue 6 conservation module in database

2015-04-10 Thread Chuck Patch
 Listserv
  Subject: [MCN-L] Conservation module in database
 
 
  Hello,
 
  We are looking at a proposal for the conservation module in our
 database. The proposal currently separates the following into four fields:
 Proposed Treatment, Proposed Materials, Treatment, and Treatment Materials.
 I'm wondering what other institutions follow the practice of separating
 treatment from treatment materials, and how they find it useful. Any
 feedback would be appreciated.
 
  Thanks!
 
  LAUREN ROBINSON
  CATALOGING COORDINATOR
  Museum of the City of New York
  1220 Fifth Avenue
  New York, NY 10029
  TEL: 917.492.3373
  lrobin...@mcny.org
 
 


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[MCN-L] New physical interactive - Eliana Rachel Sully Cohen

2014-08-14 Thread Chuck Patch
Congratulations Perian!


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:40 PM, Perian perian at emphatic.org wrote:

 Hi everyone:

 On July 7th, following 40 weeks +42 hours of preparation and labor, I
 released a new physical interactive, which we've named Eliana. Eliana was
 originally 8lbs, 5 oz and 19.5 long, but, being interactive and now 5
 weeks old, her specs have since changed significantly. She also has an
 awful lot of hair, and we're not sure which programmer is responsible for
 that. Since it's a feature, and not currently a bug, we're calling the hair
 a success.

 I know many of you have been subjected to my snarky updates and photos on
 ye olde Facebook, but since I have so many friends and colleagues in the
 musetech and registrar communities, I wanted to let the rest of you know
 about my latest project.

 Cheers,

 ~Peria
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[MCN-L] Getting information from the community about digitized photographs?

2013-06-19 Thread Chuck Patch
Cairie,,

During your next lunch hour, watch this session from Webwise 2012. Lots of
interesting ideas here:

http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/webwise/120229/globe_show/default_go_archive.cfm?gsid=1971type=flvtest=0live=0

Chuck


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Cairie Riney cairie.bird at gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!
 I'm currently digitizing a collection of photographs that have some limited
 data accompanying them. The photographs are the historical background of a
 small community that can provide much of the needed information. Many of
 the community members are old and ailing so the need to retrieve the
 information from them is much needed! Currently the museum I work for does
 not have a DAM so I'm embedding the metadata with Adobe Bridge (thanks to
 the suggestions of people on this listserv). I know the San Diego Air and
 Space Museum posts their digitized collections on Flickr and gets some
 great information from the public. Would others recommend this route? What
 other ways have museums recieved data from the public? The main information
 that's needed is identifying people and places in the photographs.
 Thank you!
 -Cairie Riney
 Julian Pioneer Museum

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[MCN-L] File naming conventions for digitized archives

2013-03-21 Thread Chuck Patch
) and location (Clark_Series1_Box6_Folder2),
 but this seems unwieldy. I know someone out there's got to have figured out
 a better way, and any insight would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
  Lauren
 
  -
  Lauren Boegen
  Digital Collections Manager
  Webster Institute for the History of Astronomy The Adler Planetarium and
 Astronomy Museum
  phone: 312.542.2618
  lboegen at adlerplanetarium.org
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 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:57:12 -0400
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 To: mcn-l at mcn.edu
 Subject: [MCN-L] Call for papers on new media and exhibitions -
 deadline forproposals 4/12
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 Call for Papers for Fall 2013 Exhibitionist, the journal of the National
 Association for Museum Exhibition.
 DATELINE: March 20, 2013

 View back issues of Exhibitionist on the Exhibitionist section of this
 website.

 Issue Theme:  Museums and New Media: What?s Disappearing? What?s Evolving?
 What?s to Come?

 In this issue we hope to examine the impact of new media on museums, with a
 particular focus on exhibitions.

 How are new digital technology and media affecting the care and management
 of collections? living or non-living?on which exhibitions are based?  Are
 once standard practices and procedures for collections care and management,
 for exhibition development and interpretation disappearing?no longer valued
 or needed?  What is the impact of this development?

 How are new media shaping the ways in which exhibitions are conceived,
 designed and developed, interpreted, accessed, or assessed?  What about the
 impact on visitors and their participation and engagement with exhibition?

 What?s way out there on the cutting edge for exhibitions in the future?

 Proposals need not be limited to just these issues, and can include
 research, essays, and case studies that analyze/comment on/critique the
 impact of new technology and media on museums of all types and disciplines,
 and the exhibitions they produce. As much as possible, if a case study or
 research project is submitted, the article should not focus on a single
 project or museum without raising questions or throwing light on larger
 issues that are widely applicable. Proposals from colleagues around the
 world are welcome.

 Deadlines
 Proposal deadline: April 12, 2013. 250 word maximum.  Briefly describe your
 article; how it relates to issue theme; your background/qualifications for
 writing the article.  Proposals will be vetted by our editorial advisory
 board, and you will be notified of acceptance or non-acceptance within
 several weeks. A style sheet will be sent to you when your proposal is
 accepted.
 First draft deadline:  June 21, 2013.   2000 word maximum.  Your article
 will be returned by early-mid July with comments and edits by editorial
 advisors and editor.
 Final article deadline: August 9, 2013.  Final article due with four or
 five
 images, credits, and captions.

 Gretchen Jennings
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[MCN-L] [DM SIG:]2013 MCN Presentations from DMSIG

2012-11-15 Thread Chuck Patch
I'd be willing to pull together a session on preservation strategies. I'm
hardly an expert, but there's a year to do it and it's an area that
interests me. Also, although not in the realm of digital imaging, I'd like
to see audio preservation added to the mix.

Chuck

On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:58 PM, Jana Hill jana.hill at cartermuseum.orgwrote:

 Hi Chris et al.,

 In addition to those ideas, DM SIG table #2 at the luncheon was very
 interested in seeing some presentations on digital preservation strategies
 for both still and moving images.


 Jana Hill
 Collection Information and Imaging Manager
 Amon Carter Museum of American Art
 3501 Camp Bowie Blvd., Fort Worth, TX 76107
 t: 817.989.5173 f: 817.665.4336
 www.cartermuseum.org




 -Original Message-
 From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
 Edwards, Chris
 Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 12:12 PM
 To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
 Subject: [MCN-L] [DM SIG:]2013 MCN Presentations from DMSIG

 To everyone I saw at MCN this year, it was great spending time with you in
 Seattle!  We had a really good time.

 However

 One of the largest issues I had with the conference this year was the
 total lack of presentations on imaging.  This clearly puts the ball in our
 court and Id like to have us as a group come up with several proposals to
 submit for next years conference. Since we are all extremely busy, it is
 entirely appropriate to begin these discussions now.  As chair of the
 Digital Media SIG I will do my part in officially underwriting proposals
 emanating from this group to aid in their acceptance.

 A few back of the envelope ideas that were tossed around at the conference
 for topics for next year were: 3D Imaging, Partnering with Conservation for
 imaging (which would be a good way to draw more conservation talks into the
 mix), and a panel discussion by institutions doing multi/hyper spectral
 imaging.  These are by no means exhaustive as a list of possible topics but
 rather a way to get the conversation started.

 Please reply to this thread with any other ideas you may have and Id like
 to get some of them pinned down and get them pitched for the conference.

 If you need any incentives, the conference next year will be in Montreal,
 home of poutine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine and Molson.  I look
 forward to good presentations on digitization and artery hardening fare!

 Another piece of business was a proposal to change the name of our SIG
 from the Digital Media SIG to the Digital Imaging Group SIG as this was
 perceived to be more appropriate to the group.  Please respond with your
 thoughts.

 Thanks

 Chris.
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 Digital Studio Production Manager
 Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library Yale University
 Tel: 203.436.4690
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[MCN-L] Position Announcement

2011-09-14 Thread Chuck Patch
Many apologies to list members for the shotgun reply. Haven't done
that in a while



[MCN-L] Ignite Smithsonian, April 11th in D.C. - - Free!

2011-03-30 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Michael (or assistant!)

I've received this invitation a couple of times and registered each
time. I hope I'm not spamming the registration process, but since I
didn't receive confirmation, I just wanted to confirm in a more manual
way that I intend to attend. Thanks.

Chuck Patch

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Edson, Michael EDSONM at si.edu wrote:
 Dear MCN-L community,

 You're all invited to Ignite 
 Smithsonianhttp://smithsonian-webstrategy.wikispaces.com/Ignite+Smithsonian,
  April 11th, 2011, at 10:00am in Washington, D.C.

 The program features an eclectic group of speakers,


 * ? ? ? ? Phillip Auerswald, entrepreneurship and innovation expert, 
 GMU/Harvard/MIT

 * ? ? ? ? Katie Filbert from Wikipedia D.C.

 * ? ? ? ? Vanessa Fox, a Google alumni, Gov 2.0 volunteer, and author of 
 author of Marketing in the Age of Google Brett Bobly, Chief Information 
 Officer for the U.S. National Endowment for the Humanities

 * ? ? ? ? Elissa Frankle from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

 * ? ? ? ? Tim Hart and Simon Sherrin from Museum Victoria, Australia

 * ? ? ? ? David Hart from the Digital Media Department at MoMA

 * ? ? ? ? Carmen Iannacone, the Smithsonian's CTO

 * ? ? ? ? Clay Johnson, founder of Blue State Digital, former Director of 
 Sunlight Labs, and government transparency and open data activist

 * ? ? ? ? Martin Kalfatovic from Smithsonian Institution Libraries

 * ? ? ? ? Steve Midgley, Deputy Director for Education Technology at the US 
 Dept of Education

 * ? ? ? ? Kevin Novak, formerly of the Library of Congress, Vice President of 
 Integrated Web Strategy and Technology for the American Institute of 
 Architects and Co-chair of the W3C Electronic Government workgroup

 * ? ? ? ? Fiona Rigby from Digital New Zealand

 * ? ? ? ? Margriet Schavemaker, Head of Collections and Research at the 
 Stedelijk Museum, Amsterdam

 * ? ? ? ? Koven Smith, Director of Technology at the Denver Art Museum

 * ? ? ? ? Neal Stimler, Associate Coordinator of Images in The Image Library 
 at The Metropolitan Museum of Art

 * ? ? ? ? Kate Theimer of Archives Next

 * ? ? ? ? Jasper Visser from the Museum of National History of the Netherlands

 * ? ? ? ? ?Camilla - - a talking chicken, the mascot of the NASA Solar 
 Dynamics Observatory

 * ? ? ? ? ...and more!!!

 The full program and information on how to reserve your free ticket are at
 http://smithsonian-webstrategy.wikispaces.com/Ignite+Smithsonian

 *Reserve your free ticket now - - we're filling up fast!*

 (We will be webcasting and archiving the event.)

 Michael Edson
 Director, Web and New Media Strategy
 Smithsonian Institution, Office of the CIO
 edsonm at si.edumailto:edsonm at si.edu | twitter: 
 @mpedsonhttp://twitter.com/mpedson | m: 202-445-9746 | o: 202-633-8447

 Visit our public Web and New Media Strategy 
 wikihttp://smithsonian-webstrategy.wikispaces.com/
 And the Smithsonian Commons Prototypehttp://www.si.edu/commons/prototype


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[MCN-L] Multilingual collection database

2011-02-03 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi John,

I'm sure there are a number of systems that do this, and I would check
with those operating out of that side of the planet, including K-Emu
and Vernon. I would also check Minisis Inc. (www.minisisinc.com) which
I've worked with and know offers very strong support for a huge number
of character sets and languages (i.e., doesn't just recognize a
character set, but can sort on the language/character set).

Chuck

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Gordy, John j-gordy at nga.gov wrote:
 Hello everyone
 I have a question on behalf of the National Museum of Cambodia. They have
 approximately 17,000 objects, mostly sculptural including bronze, stone, and
 ceramics. They need to store collection information in 3 languages. Khmer,
 English, and French. They have imagery for all the objects and would
 ultimately like to put it online. We are interested if anyone?s found a
 collection engine that supports Latin and Asian Character sets.
 Happy Tet
 -jg

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[MCN-L] RIP Delicious

2010-12-16 Thread Chuck Patch
The one that I'm crying over is more personally oriented - the death
of Xmarks, which synchronizes bookmarks, passwords and open tabs on
all your computers. This one program has saved me, conservatively, a
billion hours.


On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Perian Sully perian at emphatic.org wrote:
 This makes me very sad indeed:
 http://gizmodo.com/5714292/rest-in-peace-delicious

 I spent a lot of time adding cultural heritage content and links and
 tutorials to Delicious. Maybe I should just migrate them to Zotero
 instead? Anyone else have any suggestions for a comparable service?
 The article linked to above offers some options for migrating your
 bookmarks.
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[MCN-L] Analog tape to digital conversion services

2010-09-17 Thread Chuck Patch
Thanks Rob, Deborah, these are very helpful.

Chuck

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Rob Lancefield on lists 
lists at lancefield.net wrote:

 Hi Chuck and all,

 In addition to the great resources Deb has suggested, two other leads:

 The Association of Recorded Sound Collections, ARSC, has institutional
 members who do audio A-to-D in-house but occasionally outsource those
 services, and other members who provide those services as vendors. ARSC
 has an active email list, which it may be worth hitting with a query
 seeking off-list replies about prospective service providers. More at:

 http://www.arsc-audio.org/arsclist.html

 One lead to an audio digitization house: Sonicraft (sonicraft.com) does
 very high-quality transfers of music recordings. This recommendation is
 based on individual experience, not museum-related work. As we know, a
 key factor in whether any given shop is a good candidate for a project
 is the eternal tradeoff between transfer quality and cost, vis-?-vis the
 amount and type of source material, how much quality matters, and
 budget. Please ask me off-list if you'd like a lead to someone who may
 have ideas for a specific project. As a LinkedIn user, you might also
 see if you happen to have connections in the Audio Engineering Society
 (aes.org) via http://www.linkedin.com/groups?viewMembers=gid=71239 .

 Re: storage media, in a word: yes, once audio is digital, physical
 storage-medium aspects of preserving it are like those of preserving
 other digital files. Re: metadata, the AES has developed some relevant
 standards, and LOC digital preservation pages may be useful re: what can
 be embedded in audio files of a specified format (e.g., WAV):

 http://www.aes.org/publications/standards/
 http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd01.shtml

 hope this helps!

 Rob (recording engineer in a pre-museum-person life)
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 Past President, Museum Computer Network (MCN), http://www.mcn.edu


 On 9/15/2010 7:29 PM, Chuck Patch wrote:
   I've been asked about services that perform digitization of analog
   audio (reel-to-reel) tapes. Has anyone used such a service that they
   could recommend? A couple of related questions - are there digital
   storage media for audio considered remotely archival? Or is it
   similar to visual data that's best kept on spinning disk and migrated
   in perpetuity? What types of meta-data can one ask a service provider
   of this sort to embed in the files?

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[MCN-L] Analog tape to digital conversion services

2010-09-15 Thread Chuck Patch
I've been asked about services that perform digitization of analog audio
(reel-to-reel) tapes. Has anyone used such a service that they could
recommend? A couple of related questions - are there digital storage media
for audio considered remotely archival? Or is it similar to visual data
that's best kept on spinning disk and migrated in perpetuity? What types of
meta-data can one ask a service provider of this sort to embed in the files?


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[MCN-L] Database access for curators?

2010-06-23 Thread Chuck Patch
Exactly. To torture an analogy - English and history professors are
content experts but they don't catalog the books in the library - not
even the ones they write. Trained catalogers apply the correct
retrieval vocabularies and follow standardized rules for the formation
of bibliographic information, which allows other people following the
same rules to find them, organize them (as in putting them into
bibliographies, citations, etc.)



On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Gabriela Zoller
gzoller at albrightknox.org wrote:
 Checking the corrections of the curatorial staff might refer to making sure 
 that the information they enter is properly formatted / uses controlled 
 vocabulary terms, etc. -- not checking the veracity of the information 
 itself, but making sure it is formatted consistently with database standards.


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[MCN-L] Vernon Systems - CMS

2010-04-07 Thread Chuck Patch
You should really also check out Minisis

Chuck Patch

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jeanne Kessler
jeanne.kessler at nationalww2museum.org wrote:


 We are currently investigating acquiring a new Collections Management System 
 for our institution.



 We have narrowed down our favorites to: TMS, Vernon, KE Emu, and Willoughby.



 There are pros and cons to all systems, but all look pretty good.



 Vernon is based in New Zealand, and I am wondering if there are any North 
 American institutions that use Vernon and would be willing to share their 
 experiences regarding the tool and associated support from the company.



 Thanks.



 Jeanne Kessler



 Jeanne Kessler
 IT Project Manager
 The National WWII Museum
 945 Magazine Street
 New Orleans, LA 70130
 Phone: 504/528-1944, ext. 228
 Cell: 504/723-0765
 Fax: 504/527-6088
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[MCN-L] ye olde TIF vs. JPEG2000 debate

2010-03-10 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Perian,

Before making a major commitment to JP2000, you might consider converting
those NEF's to DNG, which remains (so far as I am aware - and I expect
others to jump in momentarily) more widely implemented than JP2000. There
are certainly more tools that can use it. As you go forward, you need to
consider what your clients can use/want.

Chuck

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:11 PM, Perian Sully psully at magnes.org wrote:

 Howdy everyone:

 I'm in the midst of reprocessing all (!!) of our image assets from .NEF
 (a RAW format) and I'm wondering if I should take another look at
 JPEG2000 now.

 When I first started imaging the collection, JPEG2000 was in its infancy
 and not widely adopted. As a result, I have my master files in NEF and
 TIF, my high-quality derivatives in TIF, and my accessible and web-ready
 images in JPG.

 Part of this reprocessing will including making new copies of the
 high-quality derivatives as well as the accessible JPGs. So I'm
 wondering if I should replace the HQ derivative TIFs with JPEG2000 at
 this time.

 Anyone have any opinions, experiences or suggestions before I commit to
 this?

 ~Perian

 Perian Sully
 Collections Information Manager
 Web Programs Strategist
 The Magnes
 2911 Russell St.
 Berkeley, CA 94705
 Work: 510-549-6950 x 357
 Fax: 510-849-3673
 http://www.magnes.org
 http://www.musematic.org
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[MCN-L] Use policies in museums

2009-09-17 Thread Chuck Patch
This doesn't relate to anything specific, but as a long-time observer
without deep legal knowledge or economic understanding of the
licensing / copyright disputes among content creators, museums,
publishers etc. I'd be interested in hearing reactions to the
following situation. (Blame this post on Amalyah - I sent it to her
first and she suggested I post it to the list and so, with the
somewhat entertaining potential of throwing more fuel on the Ken Hamma
- museum copyright - paranoia fire, I will).

A friend of mine who writes a photography blog was recently instructed
to take down some videos from the MFA Houston that he had posted --
with credit and, I believe, links back to the museum site. I couldn't
help thinking that this seems to work against the best interests of
the institution. While it's true, as he admits, that he technically
infringed the copyright of the museum and probably should at least
have sought permission to post them on his (no doubt) money-losing
blog, I'm having trouble understanding how this act did anything other
than drive traffic and increase interest in the museum and the videos
themselves. Would this be a situation where a CC license would have
been more appropriate (and cheaper for the institution?) What do you
think?

Here's the post in which he presents the current situation:

http://2point8.whileseated.org/2009/09/11/takedown/

Chuck Patch



[MCN-L] MWeb Universal

2009-03-13 Thread Chuck Patch
I agree with Jay. And let's not forget that the market this demonstration
piece (PastPerfect users) showcases is one where federated search is
something both truly unusual and highly beneficial given the frequency with
which these collections are small and not easily accessible.

Chuck Patch

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Jay Hoffman Jay at gallerysystems.com wrote:

 Dear Stephen, G?nter et al,

 First, congratulations to Stephen for making an interesting project
 available.

 I would like to weigh in on this conversation, lest everyone reading it
 think that the statements about federated searching should be accepted
 without challenge.

 I don't agree that one should assume that enthusiasm about federated
 searching ... has dissipated by now. Maybe for now would be a more
 appropriate way to put it. There seems to be so many experts with so much
 experience in this field in the museum informatics space (this is another
 tongue-in-cheek statement).

 There is still research and development taking place in
 federated/distributed searching and more interesting things to come,
 including ranking.

 Stephen's project is an interesting step in the right direction and I think
 we should look at the benefits of the architecture before being dismissive.
 The notion that the technology might only be good for a limited number of
 data sources will also soon be dispelled.

 Best,

 Jay

 Jay Hoffman, CEO
 Gallery Systems
 261 West 35th Street, 12th Floor
 New York, NY 10001
 jay at gallerysystems.com
 +1.646.733.2239






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 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 12:41 PM
 To: toney at systemsplanning.com
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 Dear Stephen,

 While I don't mean to rain on your parade, I have to admit that my question
 was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. The library community has been trying to
 get meaningful ranking of federated search results to work for the better
 part of 10 years now. At this point, it's widely acknowledged that ranking
 is the Achilles heel of federated search, and even with the best technology,
 a limitation which can't be completely mediated. I'd say that a lot of the
 early enthusiasm about federated searching as the solution to integrating
 datasources, especially at scale, has dissipated by now.

 Having said that, I can see the usefulness of this kind of search for a
 limited number of datasources, such as library, archive, museum collections.
 It's a great first step to see all the content in one place!

 Cheers,

 G?nter


 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Toney [mailto:toney at systemsplanning.com]
 Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 8:40 AM
 To: Waibel,Guenter
 Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
 Subject: RE: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal

 Hello Gunter,

 At present MWeb Universal sorts alphabetically by the brief name of the
 database, subsorted by the type of content. Ranking is a good idea and
 we will add it to a future release.

 Thanks for the suggestion!
 Stephen

 -
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 Systems Planning
 toney at systemsplanning.com
 http://systemsplanning.com

 MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning


 On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 11:29 -0400, Waibel,Guenter wrote:
  Hi Stephen,
 
  How do you deal with ranking search results from various sources?
 
  The Baltimore example seems to side-step ranking. It displays hits
 segregated by database.
 
  Cheers,
 
  G?nter
 
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  Of
 Stephen Toney
  Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:03 AM
  To: Chuck Patch
  Cc: Museum Computer Network Listserv
  Subject: Re: [MCN-L] MWeb Universal
 
 
  On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 09:57 -0400, Chuck Patch wrote:
   Hi Stephen,
  
   This is really interesting. ... looks like you are inches away from
   being able to create a PastPerfect Consortium.
 
 
  Thanks, Chuck,
 
  Actually MWeb Universal can do that now. Try
  http://searchbaltimore.pastperfect-online.com
  to search a consortium of three Baltimore museums.
 
  The current release is suitable for consortia of any museums, not just
  PastPerfect sites, since it can search any CMSs or databases without
  exporting, FTPing or Z39.50.
 
  MWeb Universal has been tested with 50 databases at once.
 
  Thanks!
  Stephen
  -
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  Systems Planning
  toney at systemsplanning.com
  http://systemsplanning.com
 
  MWeb, CAPS, MARCView, and MARConvert are trademarks of Systems Planning
 
 
 
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[MCN-L] MWeb Universal

2009-03-12 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Stephen,

This is really interesting. The demo system choked up on me when I tried it
this morning, but I'll try it again some other time. I assume that the each
system that is to be part of the universal search has to have a database
connector installed that is part of this system? What is the connector?

My favorite slide, because it illustrates one of the problems involving
taxonomy, is the search for vase, which features a record for a Gibson
guitar. But this looks like you are inches away from being able to create a
PastPerfect Consortium.

Chuck

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Stephen Toney toney at 
systemsplanning.comwrote:

 Systems Planning has just released MWeb Universal 2.0. MWeb Universal
 provides integrated/federated searching of any number of databases on
 any number of servers.

 Since the databases are searched in their native form, there is no need
 to export them or send them to a central site.

 Databases may include any CMS, database systems like Oracle and MySQL,
 and library MARC21 records in their native format.

 Search features include keyword and phrase searching, boolean,
 truncation, and the ability to restrict searches to specific fields.

 Each site may customize the searches, displays, and interface.

 Low price with no annual fee. Free support is included.

 For more information and slideshow, please see
 http://systemsplanning.com/mweb/universal.asp

 All comments and inquiries are welcome!

 -
 Stephen Toney
 Systems Planning
 toney at systemsplanning.com
 http://systemsplanning.com

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[MCN-L] Fwd: SAA Leland Award Request

2008-11-18 Thread Chuck Patch
I liked wend better

Chuck

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Drury Wellford DWellford at moc.org wrote:

 Where do we send our nominations?

 Ann Drury Wellford
 Photo Services Manager
 The Museum of the Confederacy
 1201 East Clay Street
 Richmond, VA  23219
 Phone: (804) 649-1861 x17
 Fax: (804) 644-7150
 www.moc.org


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 Where do we wend our nominations?

 Ann Drury Wellford
 Photo Services Manager
 The Museum of the Confederacy
 1201 East Clay Street
 Richmond, VA  23219
 Phone: (804) 649-1861 x17
 Fax: (804) 644-7150
 www.moc.org


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 Begin forwarded message:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Stankrauff, Alison Harper [mailto:astankra at iusb.edu]
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:07 AM
  To: info at mcn.edu
  Subject: SAA Leland Award Request
 
  Dear Museum Computer Network -
 
  The Society of American Archivists annual awards cycle is in full
  swing for 2009.
 
  I'm hoping to ask if you could post this announcement for the Waldo
  Gifford Leland Award to your members? (See attached).
 
  The annual Leland Award - a cash prize and certificate - encourages
  and rewards writing of superior excellence and usefulness in the
  field of archival history, theory, and practice.  The Leland Award
  subcommittee of the Society of American Archivists invites you to
  nominate a monograph, finding aid, or documentary publication
  published in North America in 2008 for this year's recognition.
  (Please note: periodicals are not eligible.)
 
 
  Thank You Very Much,
 
  Alison Stankrauff
  Leland Award Chair
 
 
  Alison Stankrauff
  Archivist and Assistant Librarian
  Franklin D. Schurz Library
  Indiana University South Bend
  P.O. Box 7111
  South Bend, Indiana  46634
  (574) 520-4392
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[MCN-L] Twitter?

2008-09-17 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Perian,

One potential use of Twitter that may only be relevant to folks living in
disaster-prone areas is for post -disaster communications. I wish we had
this following Katrina a few years ago when the cell network was on its
knees for weeks. Here's a video that describes its use for that purpose:

http://tinyurl.com/yq93w2https://204.213.35.27/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://tinyurl.com/yq93w2

Chuck Patch

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Smith, Koven Koven.Smith at 
metmuseum.orgwrote:

 The Brooklyn Museum (@brooklynmuseum) and Columbus Museum of Art
 (@columbusmuseum) are both using Twitter to communicate with their
 audiences.  Brooklyn Museum's stream has pointed me to some really
 interesting stuff over the past year.

 Incidentally, I've been playing with Twitter Stream Graphs of late,
 which is actually how I discovered the Columbus Museum of Art's stream:
 http://www.neoformix.com/Projects/TwitterStreamGraphs/view.php  Twitter
 Stream Graphs parses out the relevant concepts from tweets, aggregates
 them, and graphs them over time, so you can see what people are posting
 about and when.  I graphed Metropolitan Museum of Art just to see what
 was interesting about us to the Twitter community, and found a relative
 paucity of postings until the opening of the Poiret show in late August,
 then a settling down again, followed by a huge explosion in postings
 when our new director was named.

 I guess it's a little geeky, but still really fascinating.

 Koven J. Smith
 Associate Manager of Interpretive Technology
 The Metropolitan Museum of Art
 1000 Fifth Avenue, New York, New York 10028-0198
 (212) 396-5063
 koven.smith at metmuseum.org


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 We've experimented with Twitter, Pounce, Tumblr and Plurk - but only as
 a means for communicating with staff and interns to this point.  We're
 hoping to launch a Mariners' tweet later in the fall - but so far we've
 only used it internally.

 That said, there's definite potential there to keep visitors/members
 engaged!



 Anna Holloway, Vice President, Collections  Programs The Mariners'
 Museum 757-591-7740
 757-591-7312 (fax)

 The USS Monitor Center - Now Open!!!
 An Ironclad Promise of Adventure
 visit us at www.marinersmuseum.org




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 Perian Sully
 Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:12 PM
 To: Museum Computer Network Listserv
 Subject: [MCN-L] Twitter?

 Alright, alright, I'm slow to the game, but are any of your institutions
 using Twitter to communicate with your audience? I haven't used it
 myself, and only just set up an account to try and check it out.



 How is it working for you? Is it one-way communication between you and
 your followers, or are they able to interact with you in some way? How
 have you found this to be effective?



 Thanks in advance for any help or insight!



 Perian Sully

 Collection Information and New Media Coordinator

 Judah L. Magnes Museum

 2911 Russell St.

 Berkeley, CA 94705

 Work: 510-549-6950 x 357

 Fax: 510-849-3673

 http://www.magnes.org

 http://www.musematic.org

 http://www.mediaandtechnology.org



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[MCN-L] DM Sig: file metadata extraction software

2008-06-01 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Deborah,

I've routinely used Extensis Portfolio to export data and import it into
Access.  You can't pull directly from the  files into a CSV or tab-delim
file. Instead you import the data into the Portfolio database. The advantage
here is that you can also tweak that data, embed it back into the files if
you want, as well as export. I've done this in order to merge image file
data with data extracted from our Collections Management System in
preparation for uploading files and data to a state digital library.

Chuck Patch

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Deborah Wythe deborahwythe at hotmail.com
wrote:


 Has anyone come across a file management utility that will generate a tab
 (or comma) delimited text file of file metadata from file storage?

 For example:
 filename ^t date ^t size ^t width ^t height ^t format

 PhotoShop Bridge and other utilities I've found allow you to export a
 fixed-width text file, but it's not consistent enough to allow easy export
 into Excel or Access (and then into DAMS) without some tweaking. I'm looking
 for quick, easy and smooth (creating metadata takes enough steps already!).

 Thanks,
 Deborah Wythe
 Brooklyn Museum





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[MCN-L] Google mail versus MS Exchange or others

2008-04-16 Thread Chuck Patch
I'd be interested in learning what led you to consider this option.

Chuck Patch

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Stan Orchard stanorchard at mac.com wrote:

 I'd love to see any comments here on the list. Thanks!

 On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Nancy Pinn wrote:
  We are taking a look at switching from Microsoft Exchange to Google
  mail
  for our email services.  I am curious if any of you have made this
  switch or have given it any serious consideration.  Any thoughts you
  would care to share will be appreciated.
 
 
 
  Please feel free to communicate with me directly at
  npinn at thewalters.org
  or calling me on 410-246-8339.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Nancy
 
 
 
 
 
  Nancy C. Pinn
 
  Director of Information Technology
 
  The Walters Art Museum
 
  600 North Charles Street
 
  Baltimore MD 21201
 
  410-547-9000 ext 339
 
  410-246-8339 - direct dial
 
  410-244-5870 - fax
 
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[MCN-L] Google mail versus MS Exchange or others

2008-04-16 Thread Chuck Patch
OK. I held off hijacking the thread until someone else did it for me..

Interesting. During the month(s) our internal systems were down following
Katrina, I set up initial communications among the staff using Google groups
and set up people without personal email accounts on Google mail. While we
later developed an online staff directory that people could personally
update while on the road, it was the initial use of the Google group that
allowed us to get in contact. Although I suspect that there would still be
significant resistance among our tech folk, the truth is that there is
nothing that our institution does with Exchange that couldn't be done in
Google mail, which is another way of saying that no one uses any of the
useful features in Exchange, such as meeting scheduling etc. Or rather, a
handful will and the rest never pay attention to those features which makes
them useless.

I also agree with Ari that staff will probably hate the Google apps and
prefer Office, but then when has anyone's staff not hated anything other
than what they've been using? Switch them to Office 2007 and I promise
Google Apps will look fabulous. I think the real hump for most institutions
to surmount is the sense that you're much more reliant on your ISP with this
system. In fact, it's not email where web services are making inroads, it's
in more peripheral stuff like event registration, online calendaring, shop
stores, etc that are raising the comfort level for things closer to the
mission.

Chuck Patch


On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Leonard Steinbach lensteinbach at gmail.com
wrote:

 I have been strongly urging cultural institutions, especially those with
 minimal or overworked, overstretched technology staffs to give serious
 consideration to moving to G-mail under their education/non-profit
 organization program.  Many colleges/universities have been going, or are
 considering going, this route, with Arizona State University among the
 leaders in this. (they have been a bit radical in some other technology
 approaches as well).  The academic sector may  prove a good role model in
 this.

 I wont recapitulate the full apps
 programhttp://www.google.com/a/help/intl/en/org/index.htmlbut the
 increased storage capacity, sophisticated spam filtering, easy
 access to other google apps , migration assistance, retention of
 institutional email addressing, ease of remote access, become compelling
 cases for evaluation. Undoubtedly one factor would be the extent to which
 specialized features of Exchange  used by staff can not be easily
 replaced.

 I have long posited that, generally speaking,  the core competency of
 museums is not the management of complex systems, but the creative use of
 them and that museums should be vigilant in periodically reevaluating
 where
 there time and costs are dedicated.

 For some museums, internal email management may be appropriate, but for
 many
 it probably no longer is.  In an era of increasing emergence of webware as
 an effective application strategy, legacy, in-house systems will come
 under
 increasing scrutiny.  I think Email is a start.





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 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Chuck Patch chuck.patch at gmail.com
 wrote:

  I'd be interested in learning what led you to consider this option.
 
  Chuck Patch
 
  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Stan Orchard stanorchard at mac.com
 wrote:
 
   I'd love to see any comments here on the list. Thanks!
  
   On Apr 15, 2008, at 11:07 AM, Nancy Pinn wrote:
We are taking a look at switching from Microsoft Exchange to Google
mail
for our email services.  I am curious if any of you have made this
switch or have given it any serious consideration.  Any thoughts you
would care to share will be appreciated.
   
   
   
Please feel free to communicate with me directly at
npinn at thewalters.org
or calling me on 410-246-8339.
   
   
   
Thanks,
   
Nancy
   
   
   
   
   
Nancy C. Pinn
   
Director of Information Technology
   
The Walters Art Museum
   
600 North Charles Street
   
Baltimore MD 21201
   
410-547-9000 ext 339
   
410-246-8339 - direct dial
   
410-244-5870 - fax
   
www.thewalters.org
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[MCN-L] Web-hosted calendar

2008-02-13 Thread Chuck Patch
We've been using Trumba for the past couple of years and have found it
robust and adaptable. And cheap.

Chuck Patch
www.hnoc.org

On Feb 12, 2008 8:17 PM, Diane Andolsek DianeA at weatherhead-design.com
wrote:

 Hi all,

 Is anyone currently using a hosted calendar that they're happy with?  I'm
 looking for a solution that I can recommend to a church with about 2500
 congregants.  They are currently considering Trumba,
 http://www.trumba.com/connect/default.aspx.

 Thanks!

 Diane

 WEATHERHEAD Experience Design Group, Inc.

 Diane Andolsek | Principal
 3220 1st. Ave. S  Ste. #303
 Seattle, WA  98134
 P: (206) 447-0851 | F: (206) 447-0854

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[MCN-L] Digitial Image management software for Mac's

2007-12-06 Thread Chuck Patch
I haven't used the CS3 version, but Adobe Bridge in CS2 is an awful dog. If
you have a large number of large images in a folder (say a few hundred
ranging in size from 30MB to 80MB), it will bring all but the most powerful
machines to a halt. The single user version of Portfolio is not terribly
expensive and works with much lower resource requirements. If can also
export metadata in tab-delimited format and do batch updates of the image
file headers.

Chuck Patch


On 12/6/07, Snyder, Rebecca SNYDERR at si.edu wrote:

 Adobe Bridge would work (I personally don't know much about the others,
 but that's not to say they wouldn't work), but it you want multiple people
 to have access to the same files to run queries, etc then you will either
 have to have your files stored on a network disk that all can access from
 their individual computers, or have all who need access use a common
 computer that has both the files and the program.

 -Rebecca
 (NMNH)

 -Original Message-
 From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
 Jeff Evans

 You might like  Adobe Bridge or Canto Cumulus or Extensis Portfolio.
 All of them have demos you can download.


 On Dec 6, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Tim Atherton wrote:

  Having worked on PC's for so long, I'm somewhat out of the loop on
  Mac software and options...
 
  I'm looking for some lower end (but not bottom of the barrel) image
  management/library software that's Mac compatible.
 
  It's not going to be for a huge number of images
 
  But there are enough images that i need to be able to keep track of
  archived files, working files, exhibit projects etc etc
 
  It's also probably only going to be used by a couple of people or so
 
  I don't need something large scale that will run with multiple users
  on severs, handle hundreds of thousands of images, or produce web
  front ends etc etc, but it needs to be sophisticated enough that I
  can work with some basic metadata, run searches and keep track of
  things and so on...
 
  This will be separate from our actual collections database and the
  images as part of the catalogued in there (though those images will
  also be an incidental part of what I'm looking to use the image
  management software for)
 
  thanks
 
  tim a
 
 
  Tim Atherton
  Assistant Curator
  (Archives  Research)
  Mus?e H?ritage Museum, St. Albert
  (780) 459-1594
  tatherton at st-albert.net
 
 
 
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[MCN-L] Computer systems for a new museum

2007-03-28 Thread Chuck Patch
In addition to Gordon's excellent advice, I would recommend that
(although I'm sure  you dread the idea of doing this) you consider
writing a Request For Proposal and shopping it to the CMS vendors.
Even if you imagine that your institution is too small to warrant this
effort, it is enormously helpful in clarifying your needs and
understanding how your institution works.

In addition to what Perian says about not rolling your own I would
just point out that even if you never share your data with an
aggregator or another institution, you will eventually want to move to
a new system yourself and having one that is known, employs standards,
is well documented, has OTHER USERS and has good export facilities
will save you months of grief in the future.

Finally, talk your administration into sending you to the MCN meeting
this fall. You can meet almost every CMS vendor that exists there and
see their products in a much more informed and congenial environment
than you would at something like AAM.

Chuck Patch
Director of Systems
The Historic New Orleans Collection



[MCN-L] Yahoo's flickr

2007-03-21 Thread Chuck Patch
Flickr's pretty neat, but as Mike pointed out, there's a 10MB upload
limit (only 5 for the downloadaable applet, but still 10 through the
web interface). Also, you mention different formats, but unfortunately
Flickr can handle any format you like as long as it's Jpeg.

Chuck



[MCN-L] Membership and Donor Database Question

2007-02-27 Thread Chuck Patch
Hi Janet,
we use Donor2, which runs as a web service. We bought it after
conducting an RFP that ended up ruling out Raiser's Edge because of
complexity and (in-house) support issues. We have a very small (2
people) Development department, and an IT department that needs
another major application to support like a hole in the head. In
addition to fund raising and development, we use it for mail list
management. After 2 years of use, it has proven almost entirely
trouble-free. I also like those guys because just before Katrina hit
they invited me to zip up the database and ftp it to their server.

Chuck Patch
Director of Systems
The Historic New Orleans Collection
533 Royal Street
New Orleans LA
504-523-4662
www.hnoc.org



 
 On Tue, 27 Feb 2007, Janet M Strohl-Morgan wrote:
 
   Please let me know what database system you use for membership and
   fund-raising efforts?  Do you use Raiser's Edge?  Is there a system
   available that you recommend for small to mid-sized museums?
  
   Thank you.
  
   Sincerely,
  
   Janet
  
   -
   Janet M. Strohl-Morgan



[MCN-L] JPEG to be replaced by Windows Media Photo?

2006-10-17 Thread Chuck Patch
On 10/17/06, Tom A. tarnautovic at speakeasy.net wrote:
 Storage media (hdd) is getting cheaper and larger. I really do not
 see the need
 for a new compression algorithm these days. Especially from MS.

I find this argument (which I have been hearing for years now) to be
fairly specious. The fact is that while storage may be cheaper digital
images are much bigger than they used to be and there are lots more of
them. Nor has bandwidth speeded up in proportion to the bulking up of
image sizes. And as for storage getting so much cheaper: having put
down 70K dollars this year for a 3.2 TB EMC system and facing ongoing
maintenance fees in the thousands per year, plus management software
for the drives, etc., I'm not so sure that disk has gotten all that
much cheaper, at least if you're talking about secure, robust storage.



[MCN-L] File Storage Best Practices Redux

2006-09-13 Thread Chuck Patch
Thank you all for responding, now that I'm making my late return to
the party. All of these solutions provide some interesting things for
me to think about. The DiskXtender solution is very attractive given
our EMC commitment, but it still begs the question of creating the
SLA's, categorizing the data etc. David, I think you have an
interesting sounding, low-cost tiered solution and again the only part
that scares me a bit is that everyone will need to understand
something about how the system works. I'm sure you have this problem
too, but I've found that my biggest space abusers (e.g., the person
who keeps 8000 messages in his Exchange Deleted folder) are the ones
who have the biggest problems comprehending anything about storage.
Everyone has confirmed my aversion to optical storage. I'm going to go
over some of these ideas with my network guy and try to hammer out
something that resembles a policy. Thanks again.

Chuck

On 8/31/06, Matthew P. Stevens mstevens at adventuresci.com wrote:
 http://software.emc.com/products/software_az/diskxtender_for_windows.htm
 ?hlnav=T

 An interesting software solution I am considering from EMC.

...

 -Original Message-
 From: mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu [mailto:mcn-l-bounces at mcn.edu] On Behalf Of
 Tom A.

 We finally gave up on DVD storage and are exclusively using disk based
 solutions for data (or images).
...
 After searching high and low for a good Backup software package, it
 dawned on me that
 Roxio Toast has a backup utility called Deja Vu, which I ignored for
 a long time. I gave it a
 spin and I have not looked back.
...
 On Aug 31, 2006, at 9:50 AM, David Marsh wrote:

...
  I use disk based backup with a 10 cartridge rotation. The entire
  tree is
  backed up daily. Using commodity IDE (or SATA) hard disks is very cost
  effective. Blows tape systems out of the water regarding cost, speed,
  random access, flexibility. But a single tier system like this will
  inevitably run out of space eventually, so I'm looking to develop a
  more
  sophisticated model.
 
  My current line of thinking is to retain the single tree for
  simplicity.
  Users (all of them ...not just the technophiles) need to understand
  something before they can use it. I'm intending to add a separate
  archive area. This will be on a separate disk volume. The main
  directory
  tree will be scanned nightly, and any file not even looked at for,
  say,
  6 months will be moved to the archive in an identical directory
  path. It
  will probably be made read-only. I may provide users direct access to
  it, and that would stop them modifying the contents. I want that data
  static.
 
  Right now I'm thinking of maintaining 3 copies of the archive.
  That's a
  big deal, as with the 10 cartridge rotation on the main directory
  tree,
  we need 10 GB of media for every 1 GB of working space. That really
  holds us back from exploiting cheap disk space to the fullest. With
  this
  archive system, we'll only need 3, so all things being equal we'll
  have
  3 (ok, 3.33...) times the archive space on the same hardware
  budget. The
  three, rotating copies will be 1 online, 1 physically secure on-sight
  and one in a safety deposit box (size 2) at the bank we do our cash
  run
  with.



[MCN-L] File Storage Best Practices Redux

2006-08-21 Thread Chuck Patch
Last January someone posted a query asking about best practices for file
storage across the spectrum of applications run on their system. The
only reply related to the archival storage of images, but I don't
think that was the question and I find myself asking the same one now.
Have any of you defined policies for data classification at your
institutions? What types of priorities do you give to different types
of data? Do you have retention schedules for stored digital files (of
any type -- images, office productivity, etc.) How do you
partition/allocate your online storage? Do you give people set amounts
of scratch space to use at their own disgression?

We now have a big old EMC NAS with about 3 TB of space as well as a
variety of NAS and attached RAID units that will all be used within a
year if we don't start putting
limits on what gets parked there, so I'm very interested in real-world
experiences in developing policies and managing space.

Chuck Patch
The Historic New Orleans Collection



[MCN-L] FW: Can a CIS be a DAMS too?

2006-06-30 Thread Chuck Patch
On 6/29/06, Richard Urban rjurban at uiuc.edu wrote:
 I'd be happy to discuss this further off-list (unless there is a hue
 and cry to continue here).


Hi Richard,
consider this a hue and cry.

Chuck



[MCN-L] MCN-L List Administration

2006-06-29 Thread Chuck Patch
Yeah!



Re: Coming on Monday: the new MCN website!

2006-02-07 Thread Chuck Patch
It looks terrific you guys. Congratulations and thanks to all involved!

Chuck Patch

On 2/7/06, Amalyah Keshet akes...@imj.org.il wrote:
 Just want to add my appreciation and congratulations for a huge job
 splendidly well done.

 Amalyah Keshet
 Chair, MCN IP SIG


 - Original Message -
 From: Misunas, Marla mmisu...@sfmoma.org
 To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:58 PM
 Subject: RE: Coming on Monday: the new MCN website!


 Thank you to the whole Web Committee for this Herculean effort in a
 short amount of time.

 The new website is a significant leap forward for our organization and
 I'm sure you will all be
 as thrilled as I am to see the new site. When the
 site is live, get in there and see the results of their dedicated
 labors.

 Congratulations Dana, Rob, Margaret  Christina!


 Marla Misunas
 Collections Information Manager
 Collections Information and Access
 San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
 415-357-4186 (voice)
 Check out SFMOMA Collections Online
 www.sfmoma.org
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 http://www.mcn.edu


 -Original Message-
 From: Mitroff, Dana [mailto:dmitr...@sfmoma.org]
 Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:46 AM
 To: mcn-l@mcn.edu
 Subject: Coming on Monday: the new MCN website!

 Dear MCN-L,

 We are pleased to announce that the new MCN website will be live on
 Monday, February 6, 2006!

 While we transition to our new site, you may notice some down time with
 the MCN-L listserv. If you have an important message to send to the
 list, you may want to wait and send it next week. Please be patient with
 us as we switch over to our new host, and contact us at i...@mcn.edu
 mailto:i...@mcn.edu  if you have any questions.

 On Monday, February 6, we'll be sending out an email to every current
 MCN member with your username and password for accessing the new
 Members-Only section of the site. You will then be able to log-in and
 change your password and update your membership information.

 The site has been a collaborative project between the tireless
 volunteers on the MCN Web Committee and Mediatrope, an interactive
 studio based in San Francisco. It's a work in progress, and we welcome
 your comments and feedback at i...@mcn.edu mailto:i...@mcn.edu .

 Most sincerely,
 Dana Mitroff
 Chair, MCN Web Committee and MCN Board Member

 Christina DePaolo,
 Member, MCN Web Committee

 Margaret Kendrick
 MCN Website Editor

 Rob Lancefield
 Member, MCN Web Committee and MCN Board Member

 Marla Misunas
 President, Museum Computer Network





 .
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 San Francisco Museum of Modern Art
 151 Third Street
 San Francisco, CA  94103
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Re: Donor Information Maintenance

2005-09-29 Thread Chuck Patch
For donors, our collections information system is what Robert refersto as our 
corporate database. We maintain the current contactinformation for all donors 
in this system. New donors or changes toexisting donor contact information is 
forwarded to the membership anddevelopment office each month following our 
acquisitions committeemeeting.
Changes to contact information also often comes through the membershipand 
development office, and this is passed on to registration as itoccurs. The most 
recent date is considered the authoritative version.Synchronization is 
difficult nonetheless and therefore the transfersof information are entrusted 
to one person who does cross-checks thedata to ensure that both systems are 
using the most currentinformation.
Chuck Patchdirector of systemsThe Historic New Orleans Collectionwww.hnoc.org
On 9/29/05, Robert Weiner rob...@rlweiner.com wrote: Renee, My clients 
have used three options: The least technical one is to institute a set of 
rules stating that one database is the corporate database.  It's the one 
that will be used for all mailings.  All address changes must be entered 
there, and when there's a conflict, that database is presumed to be the 
accurate one. The next option is to maintain separate databases but build 
bridges between them.  Changes made in one database (which might still be the 
corporate database) are synchronized with the others.  Again, you'll need a 
good set of rules to keep the sync process from deleting good data. The 
third option is to replace your various databases with one system that does it 
all.  In addition to selecting and converting to the system, you'll need to 
develop policies about how departments share data.  In a shared system, one 
department can change contact info that another believes is correct.  These 
are the mirror images of the policies you need for the first option. 
Robert __ Robert L. Weiner Consulting Providing 
Strategic Technology Consulting to Nonprofits and Education San Francisco, 
CA rob...@rlweiner.com 415/643-8955 www.rlweiner.com -Original 
Message- From: Rossi, Lindsey [mailto:lro...@lacma.org]On Behalf Of 
Montgomery, Renee Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 4:29 PM To: 
mcn-l@mcn.edu Subject: Donor Information Maintenance I'm wondering how 
other museums keep donor information up-to-date between your various internal 
databases.  For instance we have separate databases for our collection, and 
membership and development records - which don't speak to each other.  Often 
the same donor's name will appear in both databases as an art donor as well as 
a cash donor or member.  Sometimes our Membership and Development office has 
the most up-to-date address, sometimes the Registrar's office does.  Do you 
have any special protocol between Registration and Membership  Development, 
so that you don't have to re-check an address each time you send? Renee 
Montgomery Asst. Director, Collections Management and Information 
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Re: I'm not dead yet!

2005-09-06 Thread Chuck Patch
Wow. You like me, you really like me! It feels like we've been reallyreally 
busy, but haven't seemed to do much of anything. Last ThursdayI set up a Google 
group for our staff, since the hnoc.org mail isdown, and about 27 people have 
checked in. More are coming on everyday. We're working from there.
Terribly self-indulgent, but it saves time to send you to the familyweb-site 
for an update:patchfam.home.mindspring.com
There's also a little bit of descripton at www.flickr.com/photos/chuckp/
Chuck
On 9/6/05, Amalyah Keshet akes...@imj.org.il wrote: On behalf of the entire 
MCN family, may I express great delight and relief that reports of Chuck's 
demise were, like those of Mark Twain's, greatly exaggerated.  We can't wait 
to hear Chuck's post-Katrina take on museum disaster plans. Right?  Can't 
resist relating the story of how some of us knew that Chuck had gotten out in 
time and was okay. It has deeply philosopical implications for the 
database-software industry, as well as serving as further proof that Google is 
omniscient.  Desperate for news about Chuck's fate, it dawned on me to stop 
being helplessly anachronistic and to simply Google him. You never know. Lo 
and behold, this appeared:  To those who know MINISIS Inc well, The 
Collection (Historic New Orleans) has been a long time client and friend of 
MINISIS Inc. With the recent devastation from Hurricane Katrina, we send out 
our well wishes to all of the staff at the Collection to pray that they are 
okay and that New Orleans will return to normality soon. We were overjoyed 
today to learn that Chuck Patch and Carol Bartels (and their families) were 
able to evacuate the City before Katrina hit the coast and that they are 
safe. http://www.minisisinc.com/  Finding someone after a natural disaster 
via a museum's database supplier may be a first.  Thanks to the people at 
MINISIS, and every fervent wish from all of us that Chuck and his family and 
his museum will ride this out and get back to drinking Bourbon during coffee 
breaks, or whatever it is they do down there.Amalyah Keshet Head of 
Image Resources  Copyright Management The Israel Museum, Jerusalem   - 
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mcn-l@mcn.edu Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 6:54 PM Subject: I'm not 
dead yet!Just a note to indicate that I am fine, in Philadelphia with 
friends  (may be looking for Bill Weinstein) and have a new email address:  
chuck.pa...@gmail.com.   Our staff is now in at least 8 different states 
and we have been  connecting through a Google group. Recovery plans are 
being  forumulated but most of us are trying to get our feet on the ground 
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I'm not dead yet!

2005-09-05 Thread Chuck Patch
Just a note to indicate that I am fine, in Philadelphia with friends(may be 
looking for Bill Weinstein) and have a new email address:chuck.pa...@gmail.com.
Our staff is now in at least 8 different states and we have beenconnecting 
through a Google group. Recovery plans are beingforumulated but most of us are 
trying to get our feet on the ground atthe moment.
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Re: Exhibition management on coll mgt systems

2005-05-27 Thread Chuck Patch
Title: Message



If at 
all possible I would ask that responses to this question be posted to the list 
-- I'm interested in this topic as well and I don't think Marla should get to 
corner the market.
___ Chuck Patch Director of Systems The Historic New Orleans 
Collection (504)523-4662 http://www.hnoc.org 


  
  -Original Message-From: Misunas, Marla 
  [mailto:mmisu...@sfmoma.org] Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:57 
  PMTo: mcn_mc...@listserver.americaneagle.comSubject: 
  Exhibition management on coll mgt systems
  
  
  Hello all,
  At SFMOMA we're working on a collection 
  management system 
  needs analysis. Managing exhibitions is one of the most complicated 
  functions we perform with our system. Currently we use our system to create 
  exhibition, venue, loan, shipping, and crate records. Registrars manage 
  individual works coming from multiple lenders and going to different venues in 
  different shipments, sometimes with parts of the same object in several 
  crates, or with multiple objects in one crate. They use the system to 
  assemble the objects, manage the tour, and disperse the exhibition. They 
  create packing and installation instructions, condition report books, 
  checklists, crate lists, lists for shippers, pro forma invoices, and a whole 
  lot more. 
  
  We're interested in hearing from colleagues who are 
  actively using their collection management systems to manage in-house or 
  touring exhibitions (we use ours for a heavy schedule of both). If 
  you are currently using your cms to manage exhibitions, would you be willing 
  to share your thoughts with me on- or offlist? Are there aspects of your 
  system you especially like or would like to change? Are there aspects of 
  exhibition management your system doesn't support? 
  If your system does it all at the touch of a button, 
  we'd like to know that too.
  
  Thanks for your help,
  
  
  Marla 
  Misunas
  Collections Information 
  Manager
  Collections Information and 
  Access
  San Francisco 
  Museum of Modern Art
  (415) 357- 4186 (voice)
   
  Check out SFMOMA 
  Collections Online at 
  www.sfmoma.org
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Re: Disaster Plans

2005-01-27 Thread Chuck Patch
Sandy,
We have a written disaster plan that I have in laundered format that I could
send to you or anyone else on the list who wants it. Each department head at
our institution has an updated copy in a ring binder in their office, along
with disaster supplies. It's also available online, but it's reasonably safe
to assume that the online version won't be available if this disaster is
real. 

___
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Director of Systems
The Historic New Orleans Collection
(504)523-4662
www.hnoc.org


-Original Message-
From: Rhonda Winter [mailto:rwin...@ima-art.org] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 2:02 PM
To: mcn_mc...@listserver.americaneagle.com
Subject: RE: Disaster Plans


Great idea...especially interested in working out a collaborative concept
where we could either share off-site resources or offer one another
temporary use of resources to drive the overall cost down. Rhonda

 christinebost...@ohs.org 1/27/2005 2:18:48 PM 
This sounds like a session possiblity for the next MCN conference? 
What do you all think about that?  Chris

 dmcconvi...@eiteljorg.com 01/27/05 11:08AM 
I would be interested in that myself.
 
Thanks Sandy.
 
**
Dee McConville
Director of Technology
Eiteljorg Museum of American Indians and Western Art
500 W. Washington Street
Indianapolis, IN  46204
(317) 636-9378, ext. 164
dmcconvi...@eiteljorg.com 
www.eiteljorg.org http://www.eiteljorg.org/ 
 

  _  

From: Sandy Moore [mailto:smo...@toledomuseum.org] 
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 1:51 PM
To: mcn-l@mcn.edu 
Subject: Disaster Plans


Our institution is in the midst of disaster planning, and we were wondering
if anyone out there would be willing to share their organization's disaster
plan document in electronic format?  
 
Thanks.
 
Sandy Moore
I.T. Manager
The Toledo Museum of Art
 
 
 
 
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Fwd: Hot off the press: MUSEUM ARCHIVES

2004-07-12 Thread Chuck Patch


-Original Message-
From: Kristine Kaske [mailto:kristine.ka...@nasm.si.edu] 
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:58 AM
To: saamu...@si-listserv.si.edu
Subject: Hot off the press: MUSEUM ARCHIVES


This is something ALL of us need on our office bookshelf!


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MUSEUM ARCHIVES: AN INTRODUCTION
2nd ed.

SAA Museum Archives Section
Deborah Wythe, editor

This new edition of Museum Archives: An Introduction offers a
comprehensive overview of archival work in a museum setting. Skillfully
written and lavishly illustrated by a team of museum-based archivists, this
beautifully designed volume draws on decades of experience in applying
fundamental archival principles and practices to the specific circumstances
of museums. Footnotes, sidebars, and a concluding resource guide point
readers to a vast range of additional information and assistance. Museum
Archives also introduces readers to the institutional cultures, functions,
and records of the museum setting and to issues of particular bearing to
museums, including Nazi-looted art and the Native American Graves Protection
and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA).


In the 20 years since the first edition of 'Museum Archives', the museum
community has come to recognize the importance of caring for the records of
its institutions, and archival programs within museums are no longer
anomalies. At the same time, developments in information technology have
stimulated archivists, librarians, and museum professionals to seek common
ground in meeting the challenges and opportunities of the digital world.
This volume should be on every museum's bookshelf and in the hands of every
archivist who works in or with museums. -John A. Fleckner, Senior
Archivist, National Museum of American  History

Publisher: Society of American Archivists (2004)
256 pp. / Hard cover / Product Code: 435

List price: $62
SAA Member price: $45

* * * * * *

To browse more than 200 archival titles,
visit the SAA Professional Resources Catalog
http://www.archivists.org/catalog/index.asp

If you have any questions or to place an order,
contact mailto:publicati...@archivists.org
or call 312/922-0140.

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Re: What's the difference between a registrar and a catalog

2004-04-27 Thread Chuck Patch
Suzane,

Thanks for responding directly to the list. I'd like to get more of a
reaction from folks in the field. The initial questions were asked in
preparation for a talk I've been asked to give at the AAM on the importance
of standards in registration. Especially since you literally wrote the book
on this, I'd like to plumb a little deeper:


Does your museum or museum division have a cataloger? If so, what is 
The name of the department this person is a part of? Who does he/she 
report to?

sq - When fully staffed, yes, our library has a cataloger.  But on the 
collections side, when I came to the Whitney, I changed the name of the 
collection cataloguer to Documentation Manager to differentiate from 
library cataloging activities, as well as to reflect the very different 
responsibilities inherent in the position as I defined it.  The 
documentation area reports to the registrar (me).

Is your library fully staffed now? 
Let's be provocative: which function tends to be more vulnerable, library
cataloging or descriptive cataloging in the CM department? To elaborate a
little, I'm hypothesizing that museums really get it about documenting
transactions, collections care and management, but don't worry nearly as
much about information discovery beyond their own staffs. 

If your museum does not have a position that is clearly labeled 
cataloger, then where does descriptive cataloging take place? In the 
Collections Manager's/Registrar's office? In the curatorial 
departments? Somewhere else?

sq - The Documentation Manager (DM) is responsible for all collection 
and exhibition paper files and records; the administration of the 
collections and exhibitions management system (upgrades, reports, 
statistics, staff training, system security, etc.); the legal aspect of 
the acquisition process (sending deeds of gift, processing purchases, 
preparation of lists of new acquisitions to the Board for 
ratification); basic cataloging and related data entry (marks, 
inscriptions, signatures, dimensions, media/materials, components, 
credit line, etc.).  A bit of an aside: the curators begin the initial 
object record in the database as part of the proposal process (the 
proposal forms are printed from their initial record).  They can change 
'boiler plate' information in the record until the work is accessioned, 
after that if they want to change data - it goes through the 
reattribution process managed by the DM.

What is the boiler-plate information? Is there a clear distinction in the
roles of curator and DM vis-à-vis the creation of descriptive information?
When a curator's term for something differs from, let's say, an accepted
term in the AAT, which term gets used, i.e.: does local practice over-ride
more generalized standards and if so, are the generally accepted terms
maintained in addition to the local terms? Is there anything resembling
thematic or subject categorization?

sq - the Documentation Manager has a half time assistant who is largely 
devoted to cataloging and data entry.  The DM also spends approximately 
1/2 to 1/3 of her time cataloging the more complicated works.

Thanks for responding. Let's hear from some other people!

___
Chuck Patch
director of systems
The Historic New Orleans Collection
(504)523-4662
(504)598-7108 (fax)
www.hnoc.org 


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Join MCN before Friday

2003-05-12 Thread Chuck Patch
Title: Message




The Time's almost up to join MCN or renew at 
currentlow rates. 
Help us to help you! MCN wants you and 
it needs you. This is a great opportunity to become part of one of the most 
influential organizations in museum computing at exceptionally low rates. Make 
your voice heard! Join today!
Go to our website at www.mcn.edu before Friday May 16, and get 
our current membership rates for the next year, or two. Wait until Friday 
and it will cost you 
more.
___ Chuck Patch President, Museum Computer 
Network www.mcn.edu 
director of systems 
The Historic New Orleans 
Collection (504)523-4662 (504)598-7108 (fax) www.hnoc.org 

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Volunteers Needed for AAM in Portland

2003-04-17 Thread Chuck Patch
Title: Volunteers Needed for AAM in Portland





Going to Portland for the AAM?


We have arranged to have an MCN booth in the Exhibition Hall for the AAM annual meeting in Portland, May 19 - 21. We need volunteers to staff the table for as much time between 10:00 AM and 5:00 PM each of these days as possible. 

If you will be attending the AAM and can spare a couple of hours to sing the praises of our worthy organization, and convince people that our annual meeting is the place to be this fall, please Christine Bostick at:

chr...@ohs.org. 


Our recent booth at the Museums and the Web meeting was a big success in making people aware of the MCN and the opportunity at AAM is even greater. Volunteer today - Your association needs YOU! 

___
Chuck Patch
President, Museum Computer Network
www.mcn.edu


director of systems
The Historic New Orleans Collection
(504)523-4662
(504)598-7108 (fax)
www.hnoc.org 



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Listerve Problems

2002-10-14 Thread Chuck Patch
Title: Listerve Problems





To all MCN-L Listerv subscribers:


In the past two weeks there have been a number of problems reported regarding the ability to post messages to the server. We believe that these problems have now been rectified. However, if you have attempted to post a message to the server in the past five days and have been unsuccessful, please contact me at chu...@hnoc.org. Thank you.

___
Chuck Patch
President
Museum Computer Network
www.mcn.edu



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Re: Wired Rick

2000-04-26 Thread Chuck Patch
Rick,
A session on pedagogies involving art and technologies, or for that matter,
any academic specialization involving technologies that use museum and/or
archival data in interesting or novel ways would certainly interest me. I
tried to pull together a session last year on visual anthropology and fell
flat on my face, but I still think it would be interesting to go to a
session made up of (one or more of) our audience(s) and find out what they
actually DO with the information we provide. 
Chuck

-Original Message-
From: Richard Rinehart [mailto:rineh...@uclink4.berkeley.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 4:33 PM
To: mc...@listserv.mcn.edu
Subject: Re: Wired Rick


Thanks; I'm blushing. I never thought of this as subject for a 
session! Something about pedagogies involving art and technologies? 
(I have thought of doing this again, but using our museum 
collections). Hm. I do know some other art/digital faculty I could 
invite - but then again I invited them last time and they failed to 
show :( Anyway, it turns out that I'm going to teach digital media at 
UC Berkeley this summer in the Art dept. and maybe ongoing, just part 
time, in addition to the museum, so this project really fired up some 
energy! Thanks for forwarding it :)
Rick



MCN Board Member and SIG liason Richard Rinehart makes Wired News  *again*.
  Really Cool!  And do I detect here a great presentation for Las Vegas...?

Congratulations!

-
When Art Imitates Art
by Terence Chea

WIRED NEWS 3:00 a.m. Apr. 25, 2000 PDT

BERKELEY, California -- Art students at two California universities are
learning that art takes on a life of its own when it's hung on the virtual
gallery walls of the Internet.

Students at the University of California at Berkeley and Sonoma State
University have teamed up for the online art exhibit CU: A
Tele-collaborative Art Inquiry.

Berkeley students are displaying their work on the Internet while Sonoma
State students evaluate and criticize its digital representations on the
Internet. The originals are not digital.

We are using the Net as our medium instead of print, said Richard
Rinehart, an instructor of art and technology at Sonoma State. The idea is
that they get them to interpret their own work through another medium.

CU was developed by Rinehart, Kevin Radley, an instructor of new genres in
the UC Berkeley art department, and Tony Le, a Berkeley student who serves
as the project's technical manager...


  http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,35810,00.html



Amalyah Keshet
Head of Visual Resources, The Israel Museum, Jerusalem
Board of Directors, the Museum Computer Network
Chair, MCN Intellectual Property Special Interest Group
akes...@imj.org.il
akes...@netvision.net.il



Richard Rinehart

Digital Media Director
Berkeley Art Museum/Pacific Film Archive
@ University of California
www.bampfa.berkeley.edu

 Board of Directors
Museum Computer Network
www.mcn.edu




[MCN-L] dangers of rust in archival storage area

1970-01-08 Thread Chuck Patch
Here's an obscure out-left-field question. We're in the final stages
of completing a storage facility for our archival collections. We plan
to run a cable-tray system across the ceiling which we hope will offer
a good bit more flexibility for future configurations than putting
everything into conduit. The trays are made of galvanized steel and
according to manufacturer specs will create dust ie rust, in about
20 years. Does anyone know if there are guidelines for materials  used
in archival storage facilities that might address something like this?
I have been poking around the COol site, but I'm posting here in case
any of you involved in construction projects have dealt with this
issue. There are alternatives, but this is the product our installer
is familiar with and other materials are significantly more costly --
but worth it if more appropriate

Chuck Patch
The Historic New Orleans Collection
www.hnoc.org