Re: Voyager libraries museums

2002-08-16 Thread Matt Morgan
Hey, I know a little about Voyager.  We started working on it almost a year 
ago.  Ours is running Oracle on the back-end, so it can do anything Oracle 
can do, which is everything.  But that's for our library collection and 
processes.  For the rest of the collections, that is, the art, we use The 
Museum System (TMS), with MS-SQL 2000 on the back-end.  It can do anything 
MS-SQL can do--which is almost everything, if you can find the necessary 
add-on product, and stay within the licensing terms.


Unfortunately I have no current public addresses I can direct people to, 
but we've had lots of success using basic, standard cgi programming 
techniques to query data in either server.  In other words, we step outside 
the client software provided, and write our own simple web-based 
queries.  Once that's done, combining queries of two+ db's into one web 
form, and one returned results page, is trivial.


I should be clear that we make no attempts to modify data in either of 
these databases except via the standard client applications.  I believe, in 
the case of TMS, that would violate our licensing terms (in addition to 
being risky for the data, possibly).  Not so sure about Voyager, but I'm 
not anxious to try it.  In any case I can't think of any circumstances 
where you'd want a web visitor altering data in a Voyager db.


Perl, PHP, and tcl are what we've used.  In some most cases we run actually 
run SQL scripts that copy, overnight, the data from the servers into a 
database (PostgreSQL) on the web server, and query it from there.  That 
relieves some load on Voyager and TMS servers.   All the Cold Fusion-type 
middleware development systems have no trouble connecting to SQL servers, 
not to mention VB/ASP, Lotus Domino, Java, etc (if that's where you have 
expertise).  As long as you're SQL, this is not really the hard part, I 
don't think.


The hard part for us has been getting this stuff out to the public--we 
don't have a real web strategy worked out for how to present this 
data.  The librarians are doing a great job with their data, which is 
cleaner and more complete, and that may be out on the web soon.  Of course, 
looking for library books online is a proven crowd-pleasing service at this 
point.  The collections data isn't super-interesting for the general public 
right now (not much description, mostly just names  numbers, so to 
speak).  I don't think just making it all available for searching really 
serves some compelling public interest.  But on the intranet, of course, 
that's fine, that's exactly what the staff want.


--Matt


At 11:13 AM 8/16/2002 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Margaret,

like everybody else, I don't know anything about Voyager, but I do have an 
example of University Art Museum and Library collaboration. And of course 
it is my favorite example, because it is a project the Berkeley Art Museum 
is leading :-). Museums and the Online Archive of California (MOAC) 
provides fairly sophisticated integration of museum and library / archival 
collections through the use of various standards such as Encoded Archival 
Description (EAD), Metadata Encoding and Transmission Standard (METS) and 
Text Encoding Initiative (TEI). The museum data gets integrated into a 
union database consisting of about 6000 collections from about 60 
repositories (libraries, archives, museums) statewide. You can check out 
the project and its documentation at http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/moac/.


Cheers,
Guenter


Hello--

I was wondering if anyone working within a Museum collection has utilized
Voyager software to make their collections information accessible via the 
Web.

Any comments or info greatly appreciated!

And while I am at it, does anyone have any favorite examples of University
Museum and Library collections being linked so at least a basic search is 
done

across both collections?
Thanks!

Margaret Tamulonis
Project Manager
The Robert Hull Fleming Museum
University of Vermont
Burlington, Vermont


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Re: Voyager libraries museums

2002-08-16 Thread Guenter Waibel

Hi Margaret,

like everybody else, I don't know anything about Voyager, but I do 
have an example of University Art Museum and Library collaboration. 
And of course it is my favorite example, because it is a project the 
Berkeley Art Museum is leading :-). Museums and the Online Archive of 
California (MOAC) provides fairly sophisticated integration of museum 
and library / archival collections through the use of various 
standards such as Encoded Archival Description (EAD), Metadata 
Encoding and Transmission Standard (METS) and Text Encoding 
Initiative (TEI). The museum data gets integrated into a union 
database consisting of about 6000 collections from about 60 
repositories (libraries, archives, museums) statewide. You can check 
out the project and its documentation at 
http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/moac/.


Cheers,
Guenter


Hello--

I was wondering if anyone working within a Museum collection has utilized
Voyager software to make their collections information accessible via the Web.
Any comments or info greatly appreciated!

And while I am at it, does anyone have any favorite examples of University
Museum and Library collections being linked so at least a basic search is done
across both collections? 


Thanks!

Margaret Tamulonis
Project Manager
The Robert Hull Fleming Museum
University of Vermont
Burlington, Vermont


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Voyager libraries museums

2002-08-15 Thread mtamulon
Hello--

I was wondering if anyone working within a Museum collection has utilized 
Voyager software to make their collections information accessible via the Web. 
Any comments or info greatly appreciated!

And while I am at it, does anyone have any favorite examples of University 
Museum and Library collections being linked so at least a basic search is done 
across both collections?  

Thanks!

Margaret Tamulonis
Project Manager
The Robert Hull Fleming Museum
University of Vermont
Burlington, Vermont


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