[MDaemon-L] Email tidak sampai ke user berbeda domain di dalam milis

2014-02-27 Terurut Topik Alim-GGI

Selamat pagi Pak Syafril,

Saya membuat milis khusus yang membernya adalah semua akun orang Korea 
termasuk user-user dari sister company dengan beberapa macam domain yang 
berbeda.


Selama ini oke-oke saja email bisa sampai ke semua user dengan selamat. 
Namun belakangan ini, user-user dari sister company (yang berbeda domain 
dengan domain kami) koq tidak pernah sampai ya? Email hanya sampai pada user 
yang menggunakan domain kami saja.


Mohon solusinya pak..

Berikut ini salah satu lognya:

---
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: --
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Session 734653; child 0015
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Parsing message 
d:\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd8248718.msg

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  From: hjk...@ggindonesia.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  To: yg...@goodguys.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Subject: [korean-goodguys] RE: [?? ??] 
???  ???

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Size (bytes): 48409
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Message-ID: 
mdaemon-f201402260946.aa4615433pd8248...@ggindonesia.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[goodguys.co.id]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Resolving MX records for [goodguys.co.id] 
(DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  P=010 S=000 D=goodguys.co.id TTL=(1391) 
MX=[mail.goodguys.co.id]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[mail.goodguys.co.id:25]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Resolving A record for 
[mail.goodguys.co.id] (DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  D=mail.goodguys.co.id TTL=(1391) 
A=[203.160.59.123]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[203.160.59.123:25]

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Waiting for socket connection...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Connection established 
(192.168.100.1:1964 - 203.160.59.123:25)

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Waiting for protocol to start...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 220 mail.goodguys.co.id ESMTP MDaemon 
11.0.0; Wed, 26 Feb 2014 09:46:56 +0700

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- EHLO jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-mail.goodguys.co.id Hello 
jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id, pleased to meet you

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-ETRN
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-AUTH=LOGIN
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-8BITMIME
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250 SIZE
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- MAIL From: SIZE=48409
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250 , Sender ok
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- RCPT To:yg...@goodguys.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 550 Backscatter Protection detected an 
invalid or expired email address

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- QUIT
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting to send message to smart host
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[smtp2.tgg.net.id:25]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Resolving A record for [smtp2.tgg.net.id] 
(DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  D=smtp2.tgg.net.id TTL=(2856) 
A=[27.123.0.3]
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[27.123.0.3:25]

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Waiting for socket connection...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Connection established 
(192.168.100.1:1975 - 27.123.0.3:25)

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] Waiting for protocol to start...
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 220 smtp2.tgg.net.id ESMTP Postfix
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- EHLO jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-smtp2.tgg.net.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-PIPELINING
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-SIZE 154040192
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-VRFY
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-ETRN
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-STARTTLS
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250-8BITMIME
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250 DSN
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- MAIL From: SIZE=48409
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250 2.1.0 Ok
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- RCPT To:yg...@goodguys.co.id
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- 250 2.1.5 Ok
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- DATA
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] Sending 
d:\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd8248718.msg to [27.123.0.3]

Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] Transfer Complete
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EA2D9407E3
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- QUIT
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] -- 221 2.0.0 Bye
Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:17: [734653] SMTP session successful (Bytes in/out: 
616/48674)

Wed 2014-02-26 

[MDaemon-L] Email tidak sampai ke user berbeda domain di dalam milis

2014-02-27 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah
On 2014-02-28 09:18, Alim-GGI wrote:
 Namun belakangan ini, user-user dari sister company (yang berbeda domain
 dengan domain kami) koq tidak pernah sampai ya? Email hanya sampai pada
 user yang menggunakan domain kami saja.

Dan tidak ada bouncing yang diterima oleh postmaster?

 Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] *  Subject: [korean-goodguys] RE: [?? ??] 
 ???  ??? 

 Wed 2014-02-26 09:46:15: [734653] -- 250 , Sender ok

Setting milisnya ada yang kurang.
Mestinya smtp-bounce address tidak boleh kosong.

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/13.6.1/ml_notifications.htm

Returned Mail

List's SMTP 'Bounce' address: postmas...@ggindonesia.co.id



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[MDaemon-L] Tips: meminimalisasi spam score saat kirim mail bagian 3

2014-02-27 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah
On 2014-02-21 10:11, Syafril Hermansyah wrote:
 Other methods for receiving bonus points:

Aktifkan Vouch By Reference (endorsement)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vouch_by_Reference

---awal kutipan --
Vouch by Reference (VBR) is a protocol used in Internet mail systems for
implementing sender certification by third-party entities. Independent
certification providers vouch for the reputation of senders by verifying
the domain name that is associated with transmitted electronic mail. VBR
information can be used by a message transfer agent, a mail delivery
agent or by an email client.

The protocol is intended to become a standard for email sender
certification, and is described in RFC 5518.[1]
--- akhir kutipan ---

https://www.altn.com/email-certification/

Pengaktifan di MDaemon

http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/13.6.1/security--certification.htm

[x] Enable certification of inbound messages

Host name(s) of certification services that I trust (space separated
list): vbr.emailcertification.org

[x] Don't apply spam filter to certified messages

[x] Insert certification data into outgoing messages

Klik Configure a domain for message certification

Domain name: domain.co.id (atau klik tombol find)

Mail type: all

Host names(s) of services…: vbr.emailcertification.org

Aktifkan dukungan VBR dari Alt-N Technologies

isi form nya disini

https://www.altn.com/Email-Certification/SignUp/

Nanti dari Alt-N ada kiriman mail ke alamat yang diisi di form tersebut
yang perlu di response sesuai dengan petunjuk disitu.


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[MDaemon-L] Email tidak sampai ke user berbeda domain di dalam milis

2014-02-27 Terurut Topik Alim-GGI
-Original Message- 
From: Syafril Hermansyah

Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 9:58 AM
To: Milis Komunitas MDaemon Indonesia
Subject: [MDaemon-L] Email tidak sampai ke user berbeda domain di dalam 
milis



Setting milisnya ada yang kurang.
Mestinya smtp-bounce address tidak boleh kosong.



http://mdaemon.dutaint.co.id/13.6.1/ml_notifications.htm



Returned Mail



List's SMTP 'Bounce' address: postmas...@ggindonesia.co.id


Dear Pak Syafril,

Iya pak sorry bagian itu belum terisi.

Dan setelah saya isikan sesuai prosedur di atas, saya coba kirim lagi email 
ke milis, dengan membernya adalah email dengan domain kami sendiri dan email 
dengan domain sister company.


Hasilnya adalah :

1. email dengan domain kami terkirim secara normal dan relatif cepat.
2. email dengan domain sister company terkirim juga namun lebih lama dari 
biasanya.


Apakah ada masalah dengan smarthost yang kami gunakan?

Berikut lognya:

-
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:06: --
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Session 868505; child 0001
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Parsing message 
d:\mdaemon\queues\remote\pd8261460.msg

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  From: a...@ggindonesia.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  To: gold...@goodguys.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  Subject: [korean-goodguys] test Jumat1
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  Size (bytes): 6978
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  Message-ID: 
mdaemon-f201402281033.aa3357230pd8261...@ggindonesia.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[goodguys.co.id]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Resolving MX records for [goodguys.co.id] 
(DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  P=010 S=000 D=goodguys.co.id TTL=(1409) 
MX=[mail.goodguys.co.id]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[mail.goodguys.co.id:25]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Resolving A record for 
[mail.goodguys.co.id] (DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  D=mail.goodguys.co.id TTL=(1409) 
A=[203.160.59.123]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[203.160.59.123:25]

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Waiting for socket connection...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  Connection established 
(192.168.100.1:1702 - 203.160.59.123:25)

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Waiting for protocol to start...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 220 mail.goodguys.co.id ESMTP MDaemon 
11.0.0; Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:33:54 +0700

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- EHLO jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-mail.goodguys.co.id Hello 
jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id, pleased to meet you

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-ETRN
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-AUTH=LOGIN
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-AUTH LOGIN CRAM-MD5
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-8BITMIME
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250 SIZE
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- MAIL 
From:postmas...@ggindonesia.co.id SIZE=6978
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250 postmas...@ggindonesia.co.id, 
Sender ok

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- RCPT To:gold...@goodguys.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 451 Greylisting enabled, try again in 
5 minutes

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- QUIT
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting to send message to smart host
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[smtp2.tgg.net.id:25]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Resolving A record for [smtp2.tgg.net.id] 
(DNS Server: 192.168.100.254)...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  D=smtp2.tgg.net.id TTL=(2839) 
A=[27.123.0.3]
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Attempting SMTP connection to 
[27.123.0.3:25]

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Waiting for socket connection...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] *  Connection established 
(192.168.100.1:1711 - 27.123.0.3:25)

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] Waiting for protocol to start...
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 220 smtp2.tgg.net.id ESMTP Postfix
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- EHLO jakarta.ggindonesia.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-smtp2.tgg.net.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-PIPELINING
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-SIZE 154040192
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-VRFY
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-ETRN
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-STARTTLS
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250-8BITMIME
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250 DSN
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- MAIL 
From:postmas...@ggindonesia.co.id SIZE=6978

Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250 2.1.0 Ok
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- RCPT To:gold...@goodguys.co.id
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 250 2.1.5 Ok
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- DATA
Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF
Fri 

[MDaemon-L] Email tidak sampai ke user berbeda domain di dalam milis

2014-02-27 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah
On 2014-02-28 10:58, Alim-GGI wrote:
 2. email dengan domain sister company terkirim juga namun lebih lama
 dari biasanya.
 
 Apakah ada masalah dengan smarthost yang kami gunakan?

Bukan.

 Fri 2014-02-28 10:33:57: [868505] -- 451 Greylisting enabled, try again in 5 
 minutes 

Pengaktifan greylisting di receiver yang jadi penyebab.

Receiver masih pakai MDaemon kuno sehingga hanya antispam itu yang dia
punya :-)

Mestinya sih posting berikutnya (dari sender yang sama) akan lebih cepat
sampai karena sudah ada dalam greylisting cache server penerima (assumsi
setting greylisting nya benar).



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