[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-10 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/11/24 10:53, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Singkatnya, yang dicari dari daftar exempt adalah apakah ada isian 

mirip berikut


winclude:ptbmi.com
spf ptbmi.com
*@ptbmi.com



yang menyebabkan SPF check dari sender @ptbmi.com di exempt (bypass, tidak 
melakukan check).
Isian-isian tersebut perlu dihapus atau diberi comment tag (#) didepan barisnya 
agar tidak berfungsi.



Pak ini saya cek exempt list spf ada sender *@ptbmi.com, dan beberapa sub 
domain @lmg.ptbmi.com @dpt.ptbmi.com dll
Ini bagaimana pak ?
apakah di hapus ??



Ya, harus dihapus agar SPF check berjalan jika sendernya @ptbmi.com atau 
subdomain @*.ptbmi.com.


Intinya di SPF verification tidak boleh melakukan Whitelist diri sendiri 
agar tidak terima spam seolah dari diri sendiri.
Mungkin Anda rancu dengan IPshield, yang justru harus memasukkan daftar 
Host/IP diri sendiri.


https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--ip_shielding.html

IPshield (fungsinya) mirip SPF, tetapi tidak di declare di Name Server 
(Authoritative DNS server).



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[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-10 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/11/24 10:49, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Apakah ptbmi.com atau IP 103.146.203.235 masuk dalam exempt SPF list?

https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--spf__sender_id.ht
ml



Kalau kesulitan melakuan check sendiri, kirim kan file 
\\mdaemon\app\SPFXcpt.dat [email protected].

  Setelah saya cek di exempt list tidak ada ip tersebut


Bagaimana dengan isian yang mirip berikut ini

spf:ptbmi.com
winclude:ptbmi.com
*@ptbmi.com



Tetapi di spf setting
- Apply SPF Processing to helo/ehlo value  ini un centang
Apakah ngefek ?



Tidak.
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Cara terbaik bagi perusahaan untuk terbang lebih tinggi lagi adalah 
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butuhkan untuk dijalani sendiri.

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[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-10 Terurut Topik Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L


> Tidak di hack, tetapi salah exempt (bypass, pengecualian).

> Kalau dilakukan SPF check pasti akan ditolak.

> https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=spf%3aptbmi.com%3a103.146.203.235&run=toolpage

> Result: SPF Failed for IP - 103.146.203.235


> Singkatnya, yang dicari dari daftar exempt adalah apakah ada isian mirip 
> berikut

> winclude:ptbmi.com
> spf ptbmi.com
> *@ptbmi.com

> yang menyebabkan SPF check dari sender @ptbmi.com di exempt (bypass, tidak 
> melakukan check).
> Isian-isian tersebut perlu dihapus atau diberi comment tag (#) didepan 
> barisnya agar tidak berfungsi.


Pak ini saya cek exempt list spf ada sender *@ptbmi.com, dan beberapa sub 
domain @lmg.ptbmi.com @dpt.ptbmi.com dll 
Ini bagaimana pak ?
apakah di hapus ??

Mohon pencerahannya

Terima kasih
Rievo 


[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-10 Terurut Topik Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L
Pagi Pak Syafril 

>> Apakah ptbmi.com atau IP 103.146.203.235 masuk dalam exempt SPF list?
>> 
>> https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--spf__sender_id.ht
>> ml


>Kalau kesulitan melakuan check sendiri, kirim kan file 
>\\mdaemon\app\SPFXcpt.dat ke [email protected].
 Setelah saya cek di exempt list tidak ada ip tersebut
Tetapi di spf setting 
- Apply SPF Processing to helo/ehlo value  ini un centang 
Apakah ngefek ?

Terima kasih
Rievo  


[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-10 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/10/24 10:55, Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L wrote:

On 12/10/24 10:26, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Carikan log transaksinya di smtp-in log tanggal 2024-12-09.



Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.583: [33026709] <-- MAIL 
FROM: SIZE=14346

Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.682: [33026709] Performing IP lookup (ptbmi.com)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.712: [33026709] *  D=ptbmi.com TTL=(13) 
A=[202.148.11.126]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.728: [33026709] *  P=005 S=000 D=ptbmi.com 
TTL=(0) MX=[bb.ptbmi.com]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709] *  D=bb.ptbmi.com TTL=(12) 
A=[202.148.25.131]

Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709]  End IP lookup results


MDaemon tidak melakukan SPF check.
Apakah ptbmi.com atau IP 103.146.203.235 masuk dalam exempt SPF list?

https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--spf__sender_id.html

Exempt List

Click this button to open the SPF Exception List on which you can 
designate IP addresses, email addresses, and domains that you wish to 
exempt from SPF lookups. Email addresses are compared against the SMTP 
envelope not the message From header. Domains are exempted by placing 
the word "spf" in front of the domain name. MDaemon will include that 
domain's SPF record in every SPF evaluation using an MDaemon specific 
"wlinclude:" tag. In this way you can have your backup MX 
provider treated as a valid SPF source for all senders.



tapi btw itu kok dari alias email saya ya, apa jangan2 email sya ke hack ?



Tidak di hack, tetapi salah exempt (bypass, pengecualian).

Kalau dilakukan SPF check pasti akan ditolak.

https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=spf%3aptbmi.com%3a103.146.203.235&run=toolpage

Result: SPF Failed for IP - 103.146.203.235


Singkatnya, yang dicari dari daftar exempt adalah apakah ada isian mirip 
berikut


winclude:ptbmi.com
spf ptbmi.com
*@ptbmi.com

yang menyebabkan SPF check dari sender @ptbmi.com di exempt (bypass, 
tidak melakukan check).
Isian-isian tersebut perlu dihapus atau diberi comment tag (#) didepan 
barisnya agar tidak berfungsi.




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[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-09 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/10/24 10:55, Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Apakah ptbmi.com atau IP 103.146.203.235 masuk dalam exempt SPF list?

https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--spf__sender_id.html



Kalau kesulitan melakuan check sendiri, kirim kan file 
\\mdaemon\app\SPFXcpt.dat ke [email protected].





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[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-09 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/10/24 10:26, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Carikan log transaksinya di smtp-in log tanggal 2024-12-09.




Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.583: [33026709] <-- MAIL FROM: 
SIZE=14346
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.682: [33026709] Performing IP lookup (ptbmi.com)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.712: [33026709] *  D=ptbmi.com TTL=(13) 
A=[202.148.11.126]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.728: [33026709] *  P=005 S=000 D=ptbmi.com TTL=(0) 
MX=[bb.ptbmi.com]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709] *  D=bb.ptbmi.com TTL=(12) 
A=[202.148.25.131]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709]  End IP lookup results


MDaemon tidak melakukan SPF check.
Apakah ptbmi.com atau IP 103.146.203.235 masuk dalam exempt SPF list?

https://mdaemon.dutaint.com/mdaemon/24.5.0/security--spf__sender_id.html

Exempt List

Click this button to open the SPF Exception List on which you can 
designate IP addresses, email addresses, and domains that you wish to 
exempt from SPF lookups. Email addresses are compared against the SMTP 
envelope not the message From header. Domains are exempted by placing 
the word "spf" in front of the domain name. MDaemon will include that 
domain's SPF record in every SPF evaluation using an MDaemon specific 
"wlinclude:" tag. In this way you can have your backup MX 
provider treated as a valid SPF source for all senders.



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[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-09 Terurut Topik Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L
> Carikan log transaksinya di smtp-in log tanggal 2024-12-09.

Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:36.457: --
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:44.844: [33026709] Session 33026709; child 0002
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:44.844: [33026709] Accepting SMTP connection from 
103.146.203.235:34318 to 172.16.0.6:25
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:44.844: [33026709] Location Screen says connection is from 
Indonesia, Asia
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:44.845: [33026709] --> 220 bb.ptbmi.com ESMTP MDaemon 
24.5.0; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 19:57:44 +0700
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] <-- EHLO cfi.cloudhost.id
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-bb.ptbmi.com Hello 
cfi.cloudhost.id [103.146.203.235], pleased to meet you
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-ETRN
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-8BITMIME
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-PIPELINING
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-CHUNKING
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250-STARTTLS
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.449: [33026709] --> 250 SIZE
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.469: [33026709] <-- STARTTLS
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.469: [33026709] --> 220 2.7.0 Ready to start TLS
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.541: [33026709] SSL negotiation successful (TLS 1.2, 
TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P256)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] <-- EHLO cfi.cloudhost.id
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-bb.ptbmi.com Hello 
cfi.cloudhost.id [103.146.203.235], pleased to meet you
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-ETRN
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-8BITMIME
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-PIPELINING
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-CHUNKING
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250-REQUIRETLS
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.562: [33026709] --> 250 SIZE
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.583: [33026709] <-- MAIL FROM: 
SIZE=14346
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.586: [33026709] Performing PTR lookup 
(235.203.146.103.IN-ADDR.ARPA)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.638: [33026709] *  D=235.203.146.103.IN-ADDR.ARPA 
TTL=(60) PTR=[cfi.cloudhost.id]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.662: [33026709] *  D=cfi.cloudhost.id TTL=(5) 
A=[103.146.203.235]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.662: [33026709]  End PTR results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.663: [33026709] Performing IP lookup (cfi.cloudhost.id)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.680: [33026709] *  D=cfi.cloudhost.id TTL=(5) 
A=[103.146.203.235]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.680: [33026709]  End IP lookup results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.682: [33026709] Performing IP lookup (ptbmi.com)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.712: [33026709] *  D=ptbmi.com TTL=(13) 
A=[202.148.11.126]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.728: [33026709] *  P=005 S=000 D=ptbmi.com TTL=(0) 
MX=[bb.ptbmi.com]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709] *  D=bb.ptbmi.com TTL=(12) 
A=[202.148.25.131]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709]  End IP lookup results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.744: [33026709] [email protected] is an alias for 
[email protected]
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.745: [33026709] --> 250 2.1.0 Sender OK
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.745: [33026709] <-- RCPT 
TO:
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.749: [33026709] Performing DNS-BL lookup 
(103.146.203.235 - connecting IP)
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:45.997: [33026709] *  b.barracudacentral.org - passed
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.120: [33026709] *  zen.spamhaus.org - passed
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.120: [33026709]  End DNS-BL results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.124: [33026709] --> 250 2.1.5 Recipient OK
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.124: [33026709] <-- DATA
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.125: [33026709] --> 354 Enter mail, end with 
.
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.200: [33026709] Message size: 14649 bytes
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.202: [33026709] Performing DKIM verification
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.202: [33026709] *  File: 
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\12\md500101218.tmp
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.202: [33026709] *  Message-ID: 
<[email protected]>
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.203: [33026709] * DKIM-Signature 1: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; 
q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=elshinta.com; s=default; ; 
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.203: [33026709] *Verification result: good signature
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709] *  Result: pass
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709]  End DKIM results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709] Performing ARC verification
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709] *  File: 
d:\mdaemon\queues\temp\12\md500101218.tmp
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709] *  Message-ID: 
<[email protected]>
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709] *  ARC result: none
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.204: [33026709]  End ARC results
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:46.207: [33026709] Passing message through AntiVirus 
(Size: 14649)...
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:47.227: [33026709] *  Message is clean (no viruses found) 
scanned by (IKARUS: clean (0.00218s))
Mon 2024-12-09 19:57:47.227: [3

[Mdaemon-L] Email phising

2024-12-09 Terurut Topik Syafril Hermansyah via Mdaemon-L

On 12/10/24 09:33, Rievo Niemrod Efraim via Mdaemon-L wrote:

Mohon bantuannya berikut terlampir email spam yang masuk ke email kami

Dan email tersebut menggunakan email domain ptbmi.com




Subject:  Peringatan Bahwa Email Anda Akan Diblokir
From:  "Server Admin - ptbmi.com ([email protected])" 
Date:  12/9/24, 22:13
To:  [email protected]


Carikan log transaksinya di smtp-in log tanggal 2024-12-09.



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