Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Petr Onderka
There is a user script [1] that does a primitive version of this. I have found it to be quite useful, so I think it's a good idea to do this properly. Petr Onderka [[en:User:Svick]] [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Lampak/MyLanguages On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Pau Giner

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread David Gerard
On 18 April 2013 17:50, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Please let me know if you see any possible concern with this approach. My first thought is of how upset people were when the first version of Vector hid the language links by default. I would suggest being sure there will be little

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread David Gerard
On 18 April 2013 20:43, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 April 2013 17:50, Pau Giner pgi...@wikimedia.org wrote: Please let me know if you see any possible concern with this approach. My first thought is of how upset people were when the first version of Vector hid the language

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Brion Vibber
I was traditionally in favor of keeping the full language list visible, but it's just too damn big in many cases and is hard to search through on any device. On touch devices it's difficult to pick a correct item from the list as all the links are adjacent (though if you zoom it's ok).

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Design] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 18:50 +0200, Pau Giner a écrit : As multilingual content grows, interlanguage links become longer on Wikipedia articles. Articles such as Barak Obama or Sun have more than 200 links, and that becomes a problem for users that often switch […] As part of the testing

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 12:57 -0700, Brion Vibber a écrit : On the mobile site we've collapsed the whole thing to an Other languages section or button (depending on if you're in beta mode) at the bottom of the article, and this seems to have gotten good usability responses from mobile users.

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Design] [Wikitech-l] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Brion Vibber
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Oh by the way, is there an access to discussion pages on the mobile version now? Last time I checked it wasn't accessible directly, but at the begining it wasn't possible to access other languages if I'm not

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Making inter-language links shorter

2013-04-19 Thread Pau Giner
Thanks for all the feedback! I'll try to respond below to some of the issues raised: *Which is the problem?* As it has been mentioned, one of the most effective ways of hiding something is to surround it in the middle of a long list. This produces two problems: - *Lack of discoverability.*