[Mediawiki-i18n] Pfunc and plural

2011-08-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Messages such as these: * MediaWiki:Pfunc-convert-unit-length-metre * MediaWiki:Pfunc-convert-unit-length-angstrom * MediaWiki:Pfunc-convert-unit-length-mile all have a problem: they only take the plural of the word itself, but the number is left out. For example, MediaWiki:Pfunc-convert-unit

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] I18n deployment 2012-02-27

2012-02-24 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
And i submitted a Chromium bug: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=115643 Gr. 2012/2/24 Robin Pepermans : > FYI, the font for Lontara script is meant for use on the existing > Buginese Wikipedia; I've submitted a bug request fo

[Mediawiki-i18n] The name of your language in MediaWiki - action required

2012-03-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i do

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Sorry, we don't have «page» in that language

2012-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/7/31 Platonides : > Do we have somewhere a message like this? > "Sorry, we don't have «page» in $LANG language, yet. > You can read it on > -XXZ > -XXY > > You can [help translating it]" I remember that there was cross-wiki search once and it was disabled for some reason, at least on Wikimedi

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Good and bad fallbacks

2012-09-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/9/11 Platonides : > What would be the right way to differenciate between fallbacks like > Picard -> French (there's a similarity between the languages, the > message might even be the same) and French -> English (which is there > just for having a base language). Take the fallback lists like s

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Extension to wrap certain characters in a span

2012-11-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/11/19 Harish : > If the fonts are installed, willn't the operating system itself take care of > rendering the correct fonts? Maybe, maybe not. Sometimes the default font doesn't work well with the text that the site author published. And very often the fonts are not installed. And most people

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.01

2013-01-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
below. Amir E. Aharoni, Niklas Laxström == Babel == A function Babel::getUserLanguages() was added to get the user languages (bug 42326). == cldr == CLDR extension version number can now be used in code with CLDR_VERSION constant. == CleanChanges == Only localisation updates

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] I have colon trouble

2013-02-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2013/2/14 S Page : > Hi there. Hi S, Thank you for the question, comments inline. > You may have seen the new-look account creation form on English > Wikipedia.[1] For now it is an English-only experiment, but my team is > developing it and a new-look userlogin form for all languages. The > desi

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.02

2013-02-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
extension are below. Note that the UniversalLanguageSelector extension was rolled back to its 2012.12 version to ensure compatibility with MediaWiki 1.19 and 1.20. Because of an issue, which is fixed in 1.21 alpha, logged-in user cannot save ULS preferences. Amir E. Aharoni, Niklas Laxström ==Babel

[Mediawiki-i18n] Announcement: release of MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.03

2013-03-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
@ freenode Release notes for each extension are below. Amir E. Aharoni == Babel == Only localization updates. == cldr == === Highlights === * Adding support for time units === Noteworthy changes === * (bug 38209) Remove duplicate array keys == CleanChanges == Only localization updates

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.04 release

2013-04-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
below. Amir E. Aharoni == Babel == Only localisation updates. == cldr == * Update CLDR to 23 and rewrite parser == CleanChanges == No changes. == LocalisationUpdate == No changes. == Translate == === Highlights === Work continued on stabilizing the new Translate UX (TUX) interface

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.05 release‏

2013-05-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
below. Amir E. Aharoni == Babel == Only localization updates. == cldr == CLDR was updated to version 23.1. == CleanChanges == Only localization updates. == LocalisationUpdate == No changes. == Translate == The new translation editor in Translate is now considered stable. The last month saw

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.06 release‏‏

2013-06-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
below. Amir E. Aharoni == Babel == Only localization updates. == cldr == Initial support for CLDR currency was added. == CleanChanges == Only localization updates. == LocalisationUpdate == The default values for $wgLocalisationUpdateCoreURL and $wgLocalisationUpdateExtensionURL were

[Mediawiki-i18n] MediaWiki Language Extension Bundle 2013.07 release‏‏‏

2013-07-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
below. Amir E. Aharoni == Babel == Only localization updates. == cldr == No changes. == CleanChanges == Only localization updates. == LocalisationUpdate == Only localization updates. == Translate == ===Noteworthy changes=== Groups are sorted alphabetically in the export tab of

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] why is jquery.localize undocumented and little used?

2013-08-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I imagine that mw.msg provides more features, such as plural and gender, and that makes it closer to the server-side i18n, but Niklas may know better. In any case, if it's deprecated, it should be documented. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We'r

[Mediawiki-i18n] building jquery.ime with rangy for the ULS extension

2013-08-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, What is the right way to build jquery.ime with rangy for updating it in the ULS extension? I have the following simple script to do this: === #!/bin/bash DESTINATION=/home/amire80/dev/livowiki/extensions/UniversalLanguageSelector/lib/jquery.ime/ rm -rf dist grunt --fo

[Mediawiki-i18n] CLDR 24 plurals

2013-10-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, I noticed that we haven't updated the plural rules in MediaWiki core. When I looked at the file, I also noticed that the syntax of the rules became significantly different. Here's the file: http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/browser/tags/release-24/common/supplemental/plurals.xml Is there any plan

[Mediawiki-i18n] where should the MediaWiki Installer be in translatewiki.net?

2013-11-26 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hallo, The MediaWiki Installer is in a somewhat unique position with regards to localization: Its code and messages are a part of the core repository, but it has a separate i18n file. The messages do not appear in the core group in TWN, and it is listed as an extension. It is not a part of the in

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Fallback sequences

2014-01-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Thanks for the news about Lua, first of all. The general idea seems valid to consider, but some buy-in from all of these language communities would be needed, and eventually opened as Bugzilla issues. en-gb -> en is trivial: it doesn't have to be defined explicitly, because English is the de

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Fallback sequences

2014-01-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Custom per-user fallback sequences are great, but good defaults are important as well. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014/1/23 Gerard Meijssen > Hoi, > In Wikidata / Reasonator

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] How do I find out on client-side whether the current language uses genders?

2014-04-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I wouldn't do it per language, even though there are languages that hardly ever need gender, such as Hungarian ;) Perhaps it could be done per message - to have a function somewhere in jqueryMsg that quickly checks whether the parsed message would actually be different for different genders, and i

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [New feature] Testers welcomed for Special:PageMigration

2014-06-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Is there any chance to change the page title? "Page Migration" is a bit generic. How about something like "Translated page migration"? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2014-06-02 11:

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] UniversalLanguageSelector-tofu event on Event Logging

2014-06-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[I'm checking this with Nuria now.] -- Amir Elisha Aharoni‏ ። אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי Language Engineering‏ ። הַנְדָּסָה לְשׁוֹנִית Wikimedia Foundation‏ ። קֶרֶן וִיקִימֶדְיָה 2014-06-25 18:12 GMT+03:00 Nuria Ruiz : > Team, > > We had an spike on EL yesterday nite that was caught by our al

[Mediawiki-i18n] default date formats

2014-10-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, The question of date formats came up on the India mailing list [1] and this made me think: Currently, how does a MediaWiki instance decide what is its default date format? CLDR, PHP or something internal? [1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2014-October/011806.html --

[Mediawiki-i18n] {{ns:project}} in messages

2014-10-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Is it useful to use {{ns:project}} in messages? Isn't it simpler to write simply "Project:"? Doesn't that work in all projects and all languages? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [WikimediaMobile] Analysis of the hamburger icon

2014-12-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The similarity in the numbers is indeed striking, but I don't think that it says much about the perception of the hamburger icon. I suspect that for most readers the language button is more useful than *any* of the actions in the hamburger menu - home, random, nearby, watchlist, settings, log in. T

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] promoting likely cross-wiki language links

2015-02-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The current way is the Compact language links beta feature. Try it, it's pretty awesome :) I hope to make it default some time soon. Very briefly, currently it shows at the top languages selected by geolocation, and languages that the user clicked in the past (stored in a cookie). We also plan to

[Mediawiki-i18n] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-04-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
[ cross-posted to MediaWiki-i18n, Wikimedia-L and Wikitech-L ] Dear Wikimedians, The 2000th article that was written using the ContentTranslation extension was published today. Article #2000 was translated from English to Greek, and it's about Škocjan Caves, a UNESCO World Heritage site in Slove

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
but shouldn't this be possible > to do from the dashboard? > > Thanks for all of your work on this, because I do believe translating > existing content is a direction that I personally want to take in the > Wikiverse in general. > Jane > > Thanks, > Jane > > O

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
If I understand the question correctly, it's a matter of support that we should and can to our machine translation providers. Currently there's only - Apertium, but there may be more in the future. The Language engineering team members met Apertium developers in a machine translation conference in

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

2015-06-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
ting, but a generic biography infobox has already > been done with the PrepBio tool (from Magnus) so you could use that: > https://tools.wmflabs.org/magnustools/prepbio.php > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < > amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote: > > > H

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] explaining Extension:Translate vs. Extension:ContentTranslation

2015-08-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
בתאריך 4 באוג׳ 2015 23:52,‏ "S Page" כתב: > > I have a hard time keeping them straight. As I understand it > > - Extension:ContentTranslation aids translation of _entire_ articles between _separate wikis_ . If you don't visit Special:ContentTranslation you don't notice its operation. This is most

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Internationalizing project names

2015-09-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I'm really happy that this is brought up. We have a similar issue in ContentTranslation, where we have to say things like "Translate this article from __" ( https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105588 ). In English it doesn't look like a problem, because you can simply put a language name in

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Internationalizing project names

2015-09-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Oh sorry, now I see that you created a bug already. I guess I'll continue there. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ 2015-09-16 9:55 GMT+03:00 Amir E. Aharoni : > I'm

[Mediawiki-i18n] proposal to split core messages to several files

2017-06-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, [meta: This is cross-posted to mediawiki-i18n and Language Committee mailing lists as a notification. It would be more convenient to continue the discussion in Phabricator. ] I am proposing to split the long file with the list of translatable core MediaWiki messages to several groups: https:/

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] proposal to split core messages to several files

2017-06-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
vise what message groups do not need translation for subsequent projects. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 13 June 2017 at 11:32, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > >> Amir E. Aharoni, 13/06/2017 10:36: >> >>> The intention is to make the translation process easier, espe

[Mediawiki-i18n] Translating:jquery.uls

2017-07-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, Somehow, jquery.uls never had its own description page in translatewiki, so I created one: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:Jquery.uls Even though it's a small project, it's used a lot on Wikimedia sites as part of the ULS extension, and this must be documented somewhere. As far as

[Mediawiki-i18n] language guides in your wiki?

2017-09-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, (Cross-posting, because this can interest subscribers of several focused mailing lists. This doesn't need much discussion on the mailing lists, and the linked talk page can be used if any discussion is needed.) Many wikis in the Wikimedia world give editors suggestions about the correct usage

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] The translation of the word "download" in Hokkien (ISO code: nan)

2018-02-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hi, If you believe that this is the best translation, you should simply fix it at translatewiki.net yourself! Go to the main page https://translatewiki.net , create an account, edit the page to which you linked, and that's it. If you need any help, please let me know. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni ·

[Mediawiki-i18n] Language showcase #1: 6th December 2018 (Thursday) at 13:00 UTC

2018-11-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, This is an announcement about the first installment of the Language Showcase—a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its connection to Wikimedia Projects. This first installment will deal with the challenges of the languages of sub-Saharan Africa and the W

[Mediawiki-i18n] Happy Africa Day: keyboards for all the languages of Africa

2019-05-25 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, and happy Africa day! [ crossposted to African Wikimedians list, general Wikimedia list, and mediawiki-i18n ] To celebrate this, I am announcing the completion of a little pet project that I started a year ago: it is now easy to type in all the languages of Africa in which there is a Wikip

[Mediawiki-i18n] Wikimedia Language showcase June 2019

2019-06-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase, a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its connection to Wikimedia Projects. This new installment will deal with Machine Translation and how we are seeing their use in Wikimedia pro

[Mediawiki-i18n] Language Showcase, November 2019

2019-11-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase, a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its connection to Wikimedia Projects. This new installment will deal with the Boost project, the purpose of which is to improve the Content Tr

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] Language Showcase, November 2019

2019-11-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Reminder: This is happening in 5 minutes :) The meeting will be recorded, and later archived on Commons. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ‫בתאריך יום ב׳, 4 בנוב׳ 2019 ב-15:28 מאת ‪Am

[Mediawiki-i18n] Language Showcase, July 2020

2020-07-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, This is an announcement about a new installment of the Language Showcase, a series of presentations about various aspects of language diversity and its connection to Wikimedia Projects. This next installment will deal with the translatewiki website, the Translate extension in general, the