Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-16 Thread Francis Franck
rted over a question about PHP > versions (i.e. software dependencies) is also rather interesting. > > > > Regards, > > AerosAtar > > > > P.S. FWIW, my install is 1.26a (559e61e) running on PHP5.6.4-4ubuntu6.3 > (fpm-fcgi). > > > > P.P.S. Apolo

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-15 Thread Jan Steinman
> From: Tim Starling All good points, and yet: > Your case is not normal. That > is the price you pay for upgrading MediaWiki as often as other people > paint their houses. That's a useful analogy. One doesn't hire a staff painter to be on-hand, touching up little

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-15 Thread Daniel Bishop
I usually stay out of such conversations for a reason. ;) -Original Message- From: MediaWiki-l [mailto:mediawiki-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jan Steinman Sent: 15 December 2015 21:33 To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 14

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-15 Thread tharpenator
t; complete sense... I usually stay out of such conversations for a reason. ;) > > -Original Message- > From: MediaWiki-l [mailto:mediawiki-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf > Of Jan Steinman > Sent: 15 December 2015 21:33 > To: mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-06 Thread Tim Starling
On 05/12/15 06:52, Jan Steinman wrote: > I'm not exactly a "noob", but I haven't kept up with PHP changes -- > what is running is running, so why change? It is important to keep up with security releases. If your server is compromised, it can be used to host fraudulent websites, participate in

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-05 Thread Bill Cole
On 4 Dec 2015, at 14:52, Jan Steinman wrote: So what exactly is the expected impact of upgrading PHP 5.3.8 to 5.5 or greater? The folks who have been squabbling over control of your hijacked server will stop doing so, because the latest bunch willing to coexist with each other won't have a

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-05 Thread Gordon Joly
On 05/12/15 11:24, Francis Franck wrote: > I fully agree with tharpena...@gmail.com > Keeping Mediawiki and its extensions (such as Semanticmediawiki and many > others) up to date isn't an easy job and this is proven by the number of > outdated versions still in use. The task may be made easier by

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-05 Thread Francis Franck
Dear all I fully agree with tharpena...@gmail.com Keeping Mediawiki and its extensions (such as Semanticmediawiki and many others) up to date isn't an easy job and this is proven by the number of outdated versions still in use. The task may be made easier by Composer and other developments, but

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-04 Thread Jan Steinman
I'm not exactly a "noob", but I haven't kept up with PHP changes -- what is running is running, so why change? So I was just punting on the "how long will it take to upgrade?" question. (I said "More than an hour", because just finding out the impact will take that long!) So what exactly is

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-04 Thread Alex Monk
On 4 December 2015 at 19:52, Jan Steinman wrote: > Having been stung by various upgrades over the years, I tend to not touch > stuff that isn't broken. I'm running several MediaWiki sites between 1.13 > and 1.16. I'd sorta like to upgrade, but I don't know what that buys me,

Re: [MediaWiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 3

2015-12-04 Thread tharpenator
Hi Alex and All others, Doesn't this very issue go to the heart of the Mediawiki survey of Stakeholders found? Accordingly to the slideshow on that survey 71% of all independent users of Mediawiki use an old outdated version of the software. I think we can safely assume almost all of those