Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
Just one question, does this mean we won't have vanilla N900 handset releases for 1.3?; it's been a while since we don't get a new image for it. Remember, there wasn't Handset release even for 1.2. Images are built however for N900, not for IA though it seems. Community Edition continues supporting ARM and N900, and also N950/N9 quite soon. You are right, so, what I actually wonder is if the armv7hl images will stop being generated soon from upstream. Hope not. About Handset UX, how about making a community-driven UX? There is already a such initiative, see: http://wiki.meego.com/Yet_Another_GUI_Project. Really interesting :) Where is the main discussion happening for this project?, a mailing list?, some IRC channel? In IRC probably, look for 'jnwi' and ask. Jukka ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
2011/7/15 jukka.ekl...@nokia.com Just one question, does this mean we won't have vanilla N900 handset releases for 1.3?; it's been a while since we don't get a new image for it. Remember, there wasn't Handset release even for 1.2. Images are built however for N900, not for IA though it seems. Community Edition continues supporting ARM and N900, and also N950/N9 quite soon. You are right, so, what I actually wonder is if the armv7hl images will stop being generated soon from upstream. Hope not. Doubt it, at least core images should always flow. For 1.3 we're still working on the base level stuff. /Carsten About Handset UX, how about making a community-driven UX? There is already a such initiative, see: http://wiki.meego.com/Yet_Another_GUI_Project. Really interesting :) Where is the main discussion happening for this project?, a mailing list?, some IRC channel? In IRC probably, look for 'jnwi' and ask. Jukka ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
Back ground for the changes: Handset UX isn't fully maintained and currently there's no activities for 1.3. N900 CE project is only who is maintaining / developing anything to Handset UX and when bugs are fixed in CE the fixes are also available to add to the MeeGo release. For more information about the N900CE, please visit: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Just one question, does this mean we won't have vanilla N900 handset releases for 1.3?; it's been a while since we don't get a new image for it. Remember, there wasn't Handset release even for 1.2. Images are built however for N900, not for IA though it seems. Community Edition continues supporting ARM and N900, and also N950/N9 quite soon. About Handset UX, how about making a community-driven UX? There is already a such initiative, see: http://wiki.meego.com/Yet_Another_GUI_Project. Jukka ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
Hi Jukka, Hmmm. I wonder if we could merge them somehow. Since the conversation is still ongoing, I will postpone the changes to get the agreed method for them. There's no use to make huge changes now and immediately new changes after conversation is over. I'm starting my summer vacation today, going to be out of office for next 3 weeks. I will follow the conversation and when community has made up it's mind I will do the changes. Can't promise for sure that it happens during my vacation, if not then I do them immediately after I'm back at work. In the meantime, the marking WONTFIX bugs can be started. I created a new keyword: 'maintainer_needed' to get the not officially maintained, wontfix bugs identified in easy way. Please, take it in use. Br, Iekku -Original Message- From: meego-handset-boun...@lists.meego.com [mailto:meego-handset- boun...@lists.meego.com] On Behalf Of Eklund Jukka (Nokia-SD/Tampere) Sent: 14 July, 2011 12:47 To: meego-handset@lists.meego.com Subject: Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience Back ground for the changes: Handset UX isn't fully maintained and currently there's no activities for 1.3. N900 CE project is only who is maintaining / developing anything to Handset UX and when bugs are fixed in CE the fixes are also available to add to the MeeGo release. For more information about the N900CE, please visit: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Just one question, does this mean we won't have vanilla N900 handset releases for 1.3?; it's been a while since we don't get a new image for it. Remember, there wasn't Handset release even for 1.2. Images are built however for N900, not for IA though it seems. Community Edition continues supporting ARM and N900, and also N950/N9 quite soon. About Handset UX, how about making a community-driven UX? There is already a such initiative, see: http://wiki.meego.com/Yet_Another_GUI_Project. Jukka ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
On 07/12/2011 04:38 AM, ext-iekku.huttu...@nokia.com wrote: Hi all, There's going to be some changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla Handset User Experience. Back ground for the changes: Handset UX isn't fully maintained and currently there's no activities for 1.3. N900 CE project is only who is maintaining / developing anything to Handset UX and when bugs are fixed in CE the fixes are also available to add to the MeeGo release. For more information about the N900CE, please visit: _http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900_ Just one question, does this mean we won't have vanilla N900 handset releases for 1.3?; it's been a while since we don't get a new image for it. And I guess that if that's the case, we should just focus on N900 CE? Regards, ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
[Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
Hi all, There's going to be some changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla Handset User Experience. Back ground for the changes: Handset UX isn't fully maintained and currently there's no activities for 1.3. N900 CE project is only who is maintaining / developing anything to Handset UX and when bugs are fixed in CE the fixes are also available to add to the MeeGo release. For more information about the N900CE, please visit: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 Since N900 CE is maintaining it makes sense to change the default assignee and QA contact for a people who are actually working with the maintenance/development. And since some parts aren't currently maintained, the bugs are going to be closed as wontfix. By that we don't lose any information and if someone is willing to make patches/fixes, they can do that, even if bug is marked as a wontfix. Please, feel free to take a look :) There's still components without default assignee (question marks in the name or instead of the name), if you are willing to take the action, contact me. I'm going to wait 2 workdays to get the feedback before doing the changes, any comments and ideas are welcome. Bugzilla components, and the coming changes: Applets: Doesn't exist in the Handset, all bugs going to be closed as a wontfix. After that requesting to delete the component. Audio Player: Is in use at CE, most critical bugs are fixed. Default assignee: ??, QA contact: iekku? Calendar: CE is using the Tablet UX calendar -- all bugs are going to be closed as wontfix Camera Application: in active development, new default assignee: Joonas Taskinen, new QA contact: Srikanth Connectivity UI: component itself is useless, since the whole Connectivity UI is part of Settings (or part of System UI), current bugs are going to be moved under correct component and after the moving requesting to delete the component. Contacts: in use and under maintenance Default assignee: tswindell?, QA contact: Srikanth Dialer: stays as it is DuiHome: Name will be changes to MeegoTouchHome. Default assignee mirek, QA contact: Srikanth Email client: not in use, every bug is going to be closed as wontfix. Generic: default assignee will be changed to Marko Saukko Instant Messaging: Not in use at CE -- all bugs are going to be closed as wontfix libseaside: is in use. Default assignee: ??, QA contact: ?? Package Manager UI: stays as it is Photo Viewer: is in use and maintaining is ongoing. Default assignee: alexandr.ivanov/ daniil.chuiko?? and Default QA contact Srikanth Settings: is in use and maintaining is ongoing. Default assignee will be gabor and Default QA contact Srikanth SMS: stays as it is Social Networking: Not in use at CE -- all bugs are going to be closed as wontfix Status menu: bugs are going to move to System UI and after that requesting to delete the component. Sync UI: Not in use at CE -- all bugs are going to be closed as wontfix System UI: Is in use, Default QA contact will be changed to Srikanth Theme: Is in use and Default assignee will be mirek and Default QA Srikanth UI infrastructure: all bugs are moved to OS Base - libmeegotouch, after that requesting to delete the component. UX stability: all bugs are moved to OS Base - libmeegotouch, after that requesting to delete the component. Video Player: in use and under maintenance Default assignee: ??, QA contact: iekku? Web Browser: stays as it is Window Management: Default assignee is changed to mirek About the current bugs: - All NOT ARM related bugs are going to be directly WONTFIX, cause no official support / maintenance currently for IA. Br, Iekku Huttunen MeeGo Computers Core System Testing / Error manager +358 40 749 0894 ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
Re: [Meego-handset] Changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla for Handset User Experience
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 09:08:00AM +, ext-iekku.huttu...@nokia.com wrote: Hi all, There's going to be some changes in the MeeGo Bugzilla Handset User Experience. Thanks for the heads up and letting a broader audience be informed BEFORE the action was taken. It's nice to see the process improving. I'm going to wait 2 workdays to get the feedback before doing the changes, any comments and ideas are welcome. Also, again thanks for the time to react/respond. Bugzilla components, and the coming changes: Dialer: stays as it is Correct, and thanks for noticing libseaside: is in use. Default assignee: ??, QA contact: ?? IIRC, this is still maintained by either Connie or Kaitlin About the current bugs: - All NOT ARM related bugs are going to be directly WONTFIX, cause no official support / maintenance currently for IA. This is the only item I take some issue with. There is know way for you, or anyone else, to know if there is or is not still any device that is IA based still being worked on, or tested against. And, even though there may not appear to be a official support-ed IA device, the nice thing about IA devices are that they are often quite similar to each other, so any current IA bug will most certainly still apply to any future IA device. So, I kindly request that you do not take the above action, or only do so on those components that do end up being identified as unmaintained and unused in N900 CE. Or, mark them as needing review somehow, and add a comment to them as such, triggering those that do still have a maintainer (like dialer) to take action to review them themselves. Regards, -- Shane... ___ MeeGo-handset mailing list MeeGo-handset@lists.meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-handset
