Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-18 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey Don.. We all got too much time on our hands... But, it's fun.. Have your ordered your FSM sticky for your car yet Take care, Chuck Phoenix AZ On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 03:55 PM, OK Don wrote: Flying Spaghetti Monster http://www.venganza.org/ On 10/17/05,

[MBZ] The FSM rides again

2005-10-18 Thread BillR
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 14:14:29 -0700 From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Not so sure Bill, I hauled butt out of Whorelando

Re: [MBZ] Torsion Bar Bracket

2005-10-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Fairly common, new ones are cheap. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Stinkin' Vacuum Pump

2005-10-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Look in the line from the vac shutoff -- if there is oil in there, replace the servo and clean the oil out (else it will eat the valve on the steering column). The servo diaphram is holed. You also probably have leaking lines for the shutoff -- brown line from main vac line to switch, brown

[MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-18 Thread redghost
Remarkable Obituary Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense. Mr. Sense had been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such

[MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin Beswick
My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car?

Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-18 Thread OK Don
No - I don't put stickers all over my car, but my daughter has one on hers. I have thought that a little left over spaghetti would go well with the pine sap and bird droppings on the car though. I'm also teaching my son to fence - every good pirate has to be able to handle a saber! On 10/17/05,

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Scordato
It matters. Had monroe changed to Bilsteins. Huge difference in ride and feel on a 123 chassis. Do not know on the your chassis but probablly true. Well worth the money Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Kevin Beswick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Kevin Beswick wrote: My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter

Re: [MBZ] Idle is getting scary rough.

2005-10-18 Thread macknox
On 10 Oct 2005 at 21:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall, Check the idle actuator and the overvoltage protection relay. Intermittent of either can result in poor idle and perfectly fine operation under load. So, the actuator is Y22 on the diagram, and the relay is K1/1. I see

Re: [MBZ] Idle is still scary rough.

2005-10-18 Thread macknox
On 10 Oct 2005 at 21:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, check the delivery valves. Are they located inside the individual pumps inside the injector pump assy? So, I would pull 5 five pumps, separate them, inspect the valves, and replace any that looked bad? I don't see any

[MBZ] Bouncing Speedometer needle

2005-10-18 Thread Dev Null
Re: 1983 300D Turbo with 252,000 miles I have a bouncing speedometer needle and a speed dependent chirp coming from the automatic transmission tunnel area inside the car. The period of the chirp increases with speed. I have replaced the speedometer cable and determined the bounce is not in

Re: [MBZ] 30 Day Test ride

2005-10-18 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Arnold wrote: Interesting read in the November issue of Road Track. Seems M/B ran 3 E320CDI for 100,000 mile on a test track. They have been recognized by the FIA with a host of record. Average speed? 139.699 mph They sat on the Rev Limiter at 146 mph No breakdowns. I saw

Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo? (now HID lighting)

2005-10-18 Thread David Brodbeck
dave walton wrote: We use HID dive lights and they are absolutely amazing! It would be great to put them on the cars. I hate HIDs. Hate hate hate them. I'm sure they're nice to drive behind, but the glare is much worse for oncoming drivers, or for people in front of you if their mirrors pick

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Loren Faeth
YES! CAPITALS, double strike, emphasis, italic a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car?

Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo? (now HID lighting)

2005-10-18 Thread Jeff Zedic
It's totally the fault of the beam pattern!!! The morons at DOT think that we should have a big smear of light instead of a beam focused on the road! Idiots!! And those unfortunate ones like me living next to them have to get the same shitty lights! AARRRGG It drives me nuts to

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Peter Frederick
The Monroes will ride substantially worse than the worn out shocks you have now. Bilsteins, even with abuse, should oulast your son's interest in the car. BTDT, will NEVER do it again. You'd be better off to weld the shocks solid and use the tires for bounce -- at least you wouldn't expect

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread OK Don
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs?

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread JFreezn
What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a

[MBZ] Re oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread ned kleinhenz
I've proven what Marshall stated. My son and I sucked the oil out of his 123 with a Top Siders. Then we removed the drain plug to test how effective the sucker was. NOT ONE DROP drained from the plug hole. Don't know about the specific Harbor Freight oil sucker asked about here. But I saw one

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Nothing but they're harder to find and usually (but not always) more expensive. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.)

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: What everyone else has already said - buy the Bilsieins, don't even think twice about it. What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Yeah, and hate to fart in church, but IIRC back in the days of the 'other' Mercedes list, a couple of guys installed Monroes and

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in canada

2005-10-18 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/very-reliable-diesel-collectors-Mercedes_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ categoryZ6330QQitemZ4583238132QQrdZ1 -- I was offered $14,000 for this car a year ago Yeah, by some nice Nigerian auto broker, no doubt. Quel kroque. Mac

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in canada

2005-10-18 Thread John M McIntosh
In some places in Canada that offer is actually quite true. Something about supply and demand. Remember up here in Canada diesel was until recently quite a bit cheaper than gas, it still is less that regular gas for the most part so, diesels are desirable (if I might use that word), and

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread John Ervine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. I personally prefer the Bilstein Heavy Duty shocks over

Re: [MBZ] Re oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Make one for $2, it'll last longer than the HF crap (anything of theirs that has more than 2 moving parts), and you won't be sending as much money to China. http://www.constructivity.net/oilsucker.htm --R ned kleinhenz wrote: I've proven what Marshall stated. My son and I sucked the oil

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
Here's a question about sucking oil-how does one tell when the oil is done sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black? On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:09:40 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: I'm too old school to even contemplate devices that purport

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Trans cooler line-hard

2005-10-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
BZZTT WRONG ANSWER! They changed the engine from 82 to 83.line is routed differently. Pictures can be tanken to prove my point. On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:33:46 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes Luther Gulseth wrote: The left transmission

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 2:16 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** **

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:48:36PM -0400, John Ervine wrote: What they said. I think the Bilstein pleasure rated shocks can be had for $49 each, change the front two first if money is tight. You DO NOT want the heavy duty or sport. You will get a lifetime guarantee. I

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Kevin
On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 11:55:22PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote: Here's a question about sucking oil-how does one tell when the oil is done sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black? Listen for the slurping noise? K

Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-18 Thread redghost
Don, but I need to work it in with car delivery, so maybe do rest stop revivals with Pasta and meat balls, a mountain, a tree and midget On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 03:54 PM, OK Don wrote: Hold evangelical/revival meetings on the why - might even pass the plate for support! Wonder how

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL in canada

2005-10-18 Thread redghost
Sounds like you ran into the same scum sucking douche bad dealer I had sell me the POS SDL On Monday, October 17, 2005, at 08:18 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.ca/very-reliable-diesel-collectors- Mercedes_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ

Re: [MBZ] anybody need an E300D turbo? (now HID lighting)

2005-10-18 Thread Levi Smith
Yeah, I finally found the real answer on http://rallylights.com The problem is that we have laws from the 50's that mandate a percentage of light that SHINES UP IN THE AIR! (for un-lit overhead signs). That explains why one other car that I had and put the E-code (European) lights on worked

[MBZ] Radio Choices.

2005-10-18 Thread JFreezn
I very much like my Kenwood set up which has the motorized masking feature which rotates to show a blank face where the radio is. It does AM/FM with a cassette player up front and controls a remote Kenwood CD stacker in the trunk. I don't like to remove and carry the faceplate which is

Re: [MBZ] Oil Sucker

2005-10-18 Thread ANGELO GIAIMO
Been using the original Topsider for about 8 years now @ 3K oil change intervals. I changed the hoses and added a ball valve to shut it on/off. Just pump it up 40-50 times, insert the hose, open the valve and let it do her thing. I pull the hose out alittle once in a while (to listen for that

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Drink one beer. When the beer is gone the oil is done. It's that simple. --R Luther Gulseth wrote: Here's a question about sucking oil-how does one tell when the oil is done sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black? On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:09:40 -0500, Marshall Booth [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: Here's a question about sucking oil-how does one tell when the oil is done sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black? There will be almost no oil in the sump! If you pump the handle a few more times, it will make a gurgling/slurping sound (like when you get to

Re: [MBZ] Delivery?

2005-10-18 Thread Potter, Tom E
You could inquire about a copyright release from Mercedes. Sometimes companies will grant the release if it is not for commercial purposes. Thomas E. Potter Telephone: (713) 215-2877 Fax: (713) 215-2551 Mobile: (832) 794-0536 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 30 Day Test ride

2005-10-18 Thread dave walton
Why did one only go 50k with the other two going 100k? Call me a skeptic, but why wouldn't they plan on all of them going the full distance? Something happened - or did I read the article wrong? -Dave Walton 94 S350 99 E300 On 10/17/05, Peter Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting read in

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
I 2nd that opinion! -Original Message- From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 18, 2005 10:32 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil sucker Rich Thomas wrote: Drink one beer. When the beer is gone the oil is done. You drink slowly! Marshall

[MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-18 Thread Loren Faeth
Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Scordato
An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-18 Thread dave walton
Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil

[MBZ] Duraterm Chromium plugs for OM603

2005-10-18 Thread Dave M.
Hi John, The Duraterm part numbers are here for the 25mm plugs used on the 86/87 OM603: http://www.w124performance.com/images/OM603_misc/afterglow_parts1.jpg The only difference between these and the standard Duraterm is, AFAICT, the external chrome plating. I'm not sure if it's worth the

Re: [MBZ] W-126 Sunroof Misery

2005-10-18 Thread Dave M.
Sorry to hear that, Peter. I just had the same failure on my W124. I haven't yet decided if I will attempt a DIY repair this winter while the car is hibernating, or if I will pay the stealership the 4 hours labor (*grumble*). I didn't realize how much I use the sunroof until I no longer have it

Re: [MBZ] oil sucker

2005-10-18 Thread Rich Thomas
The pleasure one derives from savoring the brew while contemplating the sublime German engineering and the unparallelled performance of the $2 oil sucker is an experience not to be rushed. I am sometimes so moved by a fit of scientific rapture that I am forced to consume another beer, $2 oil

Re: [MBZ] Duraterm Chromium plugs for OM603

2005-10-18 Thread John M McIntosh
Thank you, so since I've a 90's OM603 would that require the 23mm glow plug, how do you tell? Is there a engine code rev on the block or something? Or by look? I was temped by the chromium ones since they come with a three year warrenty versus one year. Also thanks for the e500 lighting

[MBZ] HID

2005-10-18 Thread RELNGSON
Brodbeck cries: I hate HIDs.  Hate hate hate them. And I reply, Love love love 'em. Maybe it's your cataracts. RLE

[MBZ] Bilstein

2005-10-18 Thread RELNGSON
What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Nothing. On a VW, Audi, or BMW (kack!), that is. RLE

[MBZ] Topsider audio

2005-10-18 Thread RELNGSON
Here's a question about sucking oil-how does one tell when the oil is done  sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black? Listening at the dipstick tube, you will hear the same sound you got when when you were a kid, sucking the last drop from a root-beer float. Sluuurp. Even with M1 in a

[MBZ] 87 SDL

2005-10-18 Thread frederick w moir
Hi, All. Local Want AD :- 1987 Mercedes 300 SDL Turbo diesel. Gd motor w/210k mi. Rusted body. Updated turbo. $250/bo. (Lynnfield MA) 781 334 2323. Next town over from me. Anyone need a 603? TTFN Fred Moir. Lynn MA

Re: [MBZ] Bilstein

2005-10-18 Thread Mitch Haley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's wrong with Boge/Sachs? Nothing. On a VW, Audi, or BMW (kack!), that is. Well, I've got four that are going on a 116. Paid something like $160 or $170 for them.

Re: [MBZ] HID

2005-10-18 Thread Sunil Hari
cataracts would allow -less- light in. Now, if he had surgery for them, he'd REALLY hate bright lights at night and bright sunny days too. On 10/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brodbeck cries: I hate HIDs.� Hate hate hate them. And I reply, Love love love 'em. Maybe it's

Re: [MBZ] HID

2005-10-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Sunil Hari wrote: cataracts would allow -less- light in. But they refract light like a dew-covered spider web when you hit them with headlights. It's like driving into the sunrise with a filthy windshield. My mother absolutely would not drive at night before she got hers removed.

[MBZ] Topsider

2005-10-18 Thread John Peterson
It works super on my MB, but I tried it on a 2000 Volvo S70 and it was a failure- slurp, adjust, slurp, adjust, oh forget it I'm just gonna open the bolt down below. But it is tops on my MB. Oil change in 8 minutes and a good arm workout. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-18 Thread Gabriel S.
What the F*$ does this have to do with Mercedes Benz? The ten commandments should be contrabanded from all public institutions and business. On 10/17/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remarkable Obituary Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense. Mr. Sense had

Re: [MBZ] HID

2005-10-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: Sunil Hari wrote: cataracts would allow -less- light in. But they refract light like a dew-covered spider web when you hit them with headlights. I've been corrected on that. The light show my mother saw was immediately post-op, then gradually faded. Perhaps it was

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-18 Thread Christopher McCann
i have no idea what this has to do with MB either, but businesses are privately owned...want 10 Commandments out of my house too? Chris --- Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What the F*$ does this have to do with Mercedes Benz? The ten commandments should be contrabanded from all public

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-18 Thread David Brodbeck
Christopher McCann wrote: i have no idea what this has to do with MB either, but businesses are privately owned...want 10 Commandments out of my house too? He said public institutions and business, meaning public business, I think -- as in the business of the government. If he'd meant

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-18 Thread Bob Rentfro
Gabriel spewed: What the F*$ does this have to do with Mercedes Benz? The ten commandments should be contrabanded from all public institutions and business. I enjoy the efforts of people attempting to use English as their second language...inventing words and so forth. Gabriel seems like the