So, what is up with this thing and can it be made to work right?
If there's nothing visibly wrong and the brushes are OK, then it's
likely you have a shorted winding, which saps the torque considerably.
Unless you can/will rewind the motor, either the armature (spinning)
or the field
Blowby has gotten worse. Compression is horrible, only 1 cylinder has gotten
better, the rest are lower. 1-320, 2-240, 3-325, 4-310, 5-315. Compression
readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360. Also the vacuum system has
oil in it yeeehaww. So, I added some marvel mystery
Cutting and moving things to make it fit is not an issue -- weight is
handles with custom springs. I've not really looked at anything later
than a 124 -- I'll have to check out the newer chassis.
On 9/2/06, John W. Reames III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, MB replaced the subframe, cost him a couple bills to get some other
stuff fixed up in there -- bushings, etc. but they did it fine. His
indy told him it would be about $2k, The List came through with the
warranty info, I asked the indy if MB would fix it free and he suddenly
remembered
that is the first electronic Speedo I have seen on a mb.
Any 126 has an electronic speedo.
With a mechanical odo.
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D,
It depends on the overall condition of the car, and oho much you like
it. 230k is not that much --
Since the car has 230k miles I am debating if it is
worth the time to do a head job or not.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted
that is the first electronic Speedo I have seen on a mb.
Any 126 has an electronic speedo.
With a mechanical odo.
Driven by a stepper (or some such) motor, there is no cable.
-- Jim
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny.
http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3
No association, etc.
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives.
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand
Guess I'll find out soon enough - mine stopped turning (odo that is).
On 9/2/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is the first electronic Speedo I have seen on a mb.
Any 126 has an electronic speedo.
With a mechanical odo.
Driven by a stepper (or some such) motor, there is no cable.
Alan
There are 187,000 miles on the car. I'm not the original owner so I don't
know what has been done before I got it. I got it 40,000 miles ago.
The fluid/filter was changed/flushed very recently. The mechanic said he
adjusted something. It seemed to have changed the shift pattern
Peter Frederick wrote:
A note for those suffering from hard starts hot on KE-Jet engines
(especially the 300E) -- check the boot between the fuel distributor
and the throttle body!
Mine was slightly loose, allowing air to leak in. Along with the split
idle control valve hose that I used
Even though the car is in great shape and I love driving it, I know the car
is not worth the price of all the repairs that I could make to it.
The cost of repairs and maintenance, including a $1800 - $1900 transmission,
are recovered through use of the car have nothing to do with the market
Saw one in the paper here, for $600
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net
what are you going to tow it on, does it come with a trailer also?
Those 6.2's are great rigs.
Mike Canfield wrote:
Thanks Kevin,
Just waiting on him to call me back again with his address to send money.
Supposed to be a rust free 84 4x4 Burban..I hope so. 1100 miles towing
a Benz in
WEll, they usually rattle for quite a while for a second or 2 at startup
before the break. Got to observe what its telling you. What year is
it? Where is it located?
Trampas wrote:
Today I went and changed the oil on my 420SEL. After oil change, I cranked
up the car and it ran for about
Looks like another Mercedes for Kaleb
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:52 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
Towing my trailer out with my friends Ranger and back with the Burb. Or I
may borrow another friends diesel pickup to tow the trailer out and just
drive the Burb back empty. I like that idea better.
Mike
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes
On 9/2/06, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds like fun...How about a Beetle with a Toronado transaxle and a 6.2
diesel? Mid engine V8 Beetles are a blast!
I want to put a GMC 6.2 diesel in a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow! Since
the 6.2 uses the same motor mounts as a mouse motor,
its better to have 2 vehicles that can tow, just in case.
Mike Canfield wrote:
Towing my trailer out with my friends Ranger and back with the Burb. Or I
may borrow another friends diesel pickup to tow the trailer out and just
drive the Burb back empty. I like that idea better.
Mike
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You sure about the mounts? The 6.2 is not a Chebbie block and likely uses
the same mounts as a Buick, Olds or Pontiac.
Mike
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From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 10:07 PM
Maybe something like that should have an engine that actually makes power
like a Cummins from a Dodge pickup or if length is an issue a 4BT Cummins
from a bread van.
Mike
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From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
I agree. I think the old Ford diesel would get better mileage than the
Ranger as well. Loaded or empty that 4 liter Ranger sucks on gas. I
thought about riding my DR650 out and just renting a U-haul trailer to get
it all backI think I'll spend the money for the rental on fuel instead
Well, it won;t be a drop-in. At the very least you'll have to power
the dual hydraulic pump for the braking system ---
I want to put a GMC 6.2 diesel in a Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow! Since
the 6.2 uses the same motor mounts as a mouse motor, and there are
already turnkey Chevy small-block
The vultures are circling.
Having spotted the prey, the vulture will keep his distance until sure the
carcass is dead.
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From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:21 AM
Subject:
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only require one
or two valves. Then again while the heads are off you can rebuild the heads,
replace the timing chain gear and you have a motor that should go another
200k miles easy.
How's the rust and transmission, or do you just
www.odometergears.com Buy the whole set and replace all 4 gears. I know it
costs more, but when you install a new gear, it'll ruin the old gear next to
it. It's easy to rebuild your Odometer.
On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 20:06:36 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Guess I'll find out soon
OK Don wrote:
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny.
http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3
I got the tranny, but I'm not driving to VA to pick up a project.
4th gear doesn't sound like a common failure, I wonder if it has
a stuck kickdown.
If somebody wants a 190Dt tranny, let me know.
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny.
http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3
Might have made a better starter car for that manny tranny I
transplanted in. (It's all better now, what with the brake
meltdown and all, but it's still on the bench for insurance
reasons.)
-- Jim
Seeing that it was a low engine speed incident you may well only
require one
or two valves.
There's a 420 SEL in the U-Pull right now. If it were a local
car and I had the time...
-- Jim
Tom Hargrave wrote:
Even though the car is in great shape and I love driving it, I know the car
is not worth the price of all the repairs that I could make to it.
The cost of repairs and maintenance, including a $1800 - $1900 transmission,
are recovered through use of the car have nothing to
Jim Cathey wrote:
But _so_ not quiet. Not really a good match for a Rolls I would think.
Depends on your goal -- what image you want to present. Some people
might enjoy the crazy bastard reputation they'd get from driving a Rolls
that was clattering like a UPS truck. And with all the
David Brodbeck wrote:
Depends on your goal -- what image you want to present. Some people
might enjoy the crazy bastard reputation they'd get from driving a Rolls
that was clattering like a UPS truck.
I don't think you are going to stuff a B series under an old Rolls' bonnet.
IIRC, the
Well for those of you who are not familiar with the 117. You when pulling
heads you will have to heil-coil the block, which requires a special tool
for making sure you drill the holes correctly. Last I checked the tool was
$300.
I have an engine with good heads, thus the main cost is the time
It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same
time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not
hear any rattles.
Trampas
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Sent:
David wrote:rule of thumb is, can I get a better car for the amount of
money it would take to fix this one?
Usually the answer is no,
Exactly, David! Too many people have a problem with a nice car and instead
of spending a few thousand $'s getting it as near perfect as possible
they'll
Mike:
That sounds like low mileage for a bad transmission. You need to find an
mechanic that has experience with this type of MB transmission. He will be
able to either adjust it for no slips, tell you he can make it some better,
or pronounce the tranny is toast. Your run of the mill repair
Very good point Jim. I guess there probably isn't a diesel that will run
quiet enough to respect the Rolls tradition of silence.
Mike
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From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 12:10 AM
how much?
Mitch Haley wrote:
OK Don wrote:
Might be nice for someone - needs a tranny.
http://tinyurl.com/fvvb3
I got the tranny, but I'm not driving to VA to pick up a project.
4th gear doesn't sound like a common failure, I wonder if it has
a stuck kickdown.
If somebody wants a 190Dt
that sucks.
Trampas wrote:
It did not run long enough for the oil pressure to come up. Also at the same
time another guy in the shop was using an impact wrench thus I could not
hear any rattles.
Trampas
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Yea it sucks, but it is just a thing. I am glad I have not sold the old
300SD yet...
Trampas
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Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 10:06 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Time
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
how much?
Kinda depends on how soon you need it. If you want it AFTER I take the
car apart, then I won't budget any labor for it. Sooner would cost more.
BTW, if anybody is going to throw away a front strut from a W201, I'd
gladly pay shipping from anywhere so I could
Interesting.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/201628487.html
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 158K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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at 230k miles, the heads were more than ready to be done if not yet done.
if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine
maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an
excuse to get another one.
On 9/2/06, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mr. J-Hursty brings up a good point:
if i really liked the car, i'd do the heads and just consider it routine
maintanence at this point. if i didn't like the car, i'd use it as an
excuse to get another one.
I think we are spoiled in a way. We believe our cars will last and last and
last by
http://tinyurl.com/n7frj
I'm unfamiliar with a 2400...
What a goob
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 158K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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He cant tell what a D is
Bob Rentfro wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/n7frj
I'm unfamiliar with a 2400...
What a goob
Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 158K
'87 Acura Legend 177K
Still waiting on '72 350SL 78K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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http://www.okiebenz.com
For new parts
Even worn valve guides can cause trouble -- not for me, since the head
was re-done by a reputable shop at 160,000 and I'm only at 221,000.
Peter
I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987-Station-Wagon-LOW-MILES-IMMACULATE-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ150026647366
--
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k)
'84 300D (216k)
Strange how this guy knows all about the # 20 head but fails to notice
that it has a trap oxidixer.
On 9/3/06, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year old wagon.
How about a VW TDI in a Spitfire with a Porsche 924/944 transaxle?
How about an Allison V-12 in a Honda 600?
RLE
its nice, but not that nice
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From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: [MBZ] U...this is out of control
I think this is a new all time high bidding war for a 20 year
thats a good thing, then it gets new exhaust, maybe new turbo
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From: Desert Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] U...this is out of control
Strange how this guy
Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile wrote:
thats a good thing, then it gets new exhaust, maybe new turbo
But why wouldn't a Mercedesshop forum reader have found time to
get that done sometime since the recall? He's owned the thing
for 10 years. I take it the recall wasn't in place when the
first head
that does seem quite strange
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] U...this is out of control
Kaleb C. Striplin, Mobile wrote:
thats a good thing,
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