Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread R A Bennell
Well, you know, it takes time for things to change and until recently, no one knew or at least was willing to admit that changes might be in order. It is sort of like a family that has a big SUV realizing that at some point they are going to swap it for something more efficient but not being

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Tony Wirtel
Hell, if I were the Prez, I would have a whole bunch of old Benzes in the back, I would have probably hopped in a 115 or something and just drove over there. Well, he is from Texas- since the whole shindig was about alternative fuels, how 'bout at least a US of A pick-em-up with a diesel and

Re: [MBZ] [OT] Am I the only one that finds this bone chilling?

2007-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
John W. Reames III wrote: Yeah. Then theres that pesky 10th amendment... There is no 10th amendment. It was one of the first to go, before I was born. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, me too. On another note, did anyone notice how oil shot up Zoltan Finks wrote: I'm not going to talk about whether I love or hate the current President, but I agree with Werner on this one at least - huge waste of resources and time. Ya gotta live it! I'm glad he talked so much about

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep, me too. On another note, did anyone notice how oil shot up Up a couple dollars yesterday (before the speech) Up another 30 cents today.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'd better fill up tonight or tomorrow. Hard to belive, but petro is 1.94here, and as low as 1.75 in the twin cities.That's near half of what it was during that big spike. Brian On 1/24/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: yep, me too. On another note, did

Re: [MBZ] For Sale: Near flawless 14 Mercedes Rim (15 hole)

2007-01-25 Thread Redghost
DO NOT SAND BLAST bead is less aggressive and will not pit the wheel. Sand will destroy the wheel and you will spend forever bondo patching to get it smooth again. On Jan 24, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Can the bundt pan wheels be sand/bead blasted with good results? Allan

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: I'd better fill up tonight or tomorrow. 87 octane went from 1.869 to 2.179 across the street from my office this morning. Diesel was 2.499 yesterday. (Michigan) I filled up yesterday at 1.869.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread L. Mark Finch
My dad was personnel director at The Diamond Chain Company, and that's what he did. He could have parked in the executive lot and taken the elevator up to his office, but he chose instead to park in the factory lot and walk the length of the plant each day so employees could approach him

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-25 Thread Gary Hurst
yeah, kleb will give him up to 300 bucks for it On 1/24/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are interested in a very good 1972 220D, call me Car is a daily driver with 190K miles, only 45K on a MB engine rebuild. Original owner/family Very

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-25 Thread Loren Faeth
Only if he delivers it to at least Missouri At 08:34 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: yeah, kleb will give him up to 300 bucks for it On 1/24/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are interested in a very good 1972 220D, call me Car is a daily

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Werner Fehlauer
That's it! Pimp his wheels. Werner - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency Man the Pres couldn't be rollin around in old

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread Werner Fehlauer
John - I would look at the obvious things first, like injectors. I had all of mine in the SD taken out, checked for spray pattern and calibrated. My indy did me a favor by replacing one that had a leak, and that made the engine idle pretty rough, hence the calibration. Runs a lot better now.

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Ouch. I think I will load up the pooch and go for a ride to the kwikie mart for a fill up and to run the wife's Honda through the washer - it's getting white from all the salt film. Brian On 1/24/07, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zoltan Finks wrote: I'd better fill up tonight or

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
You're kidding, Mark. That's great. I've thought about that for years. I really get a bad feeling when I see reserved parking spots. Well, I guess not so much from a few reserved spots for a few key people, as I do from a policy that designates the closest part of the parking lot for people of a

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
You're a very bottom line guy aren't you. Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d? price [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Bob Rentfro
Oil and juice from Fla which evidently shot up because of the freeze in CAgo figure. Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] The

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep Bob Rentfro wrote: You're a very bottom line guy aren't you. Bob R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com

[MBZ] OT - Diesel Mini Cooper coming

2007-01-25 Thread OK Don
(but probably not to the US?) Sounds interesting anyway! http://www.carkeys.co.uk/features/product/2007/12266.asp -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there. Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand

Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile

2007-01-25 Thread Andrew Cunningham
Thanks for the info and link to the book, I just ordered one myself. I am playing with microcontrollers and plan to hijack the pressure signal to the ALDA and adjust for actual air temperature after the turbo and intercooler (in garage now, not in car yet). Andy On 1/23/07, John Robbins

Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d?

2007-01-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep Bob Rentfro wrote: You're a very bottom line guy aren't you. Bob R - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a fine 220d? price

Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Out of curiosity, why would truckers want a 5w oil -- ease of starting? And if 5w is good enough to protect their engines, why would we want 15w? If this is the case, I'd guess it would be because the huge truck engines are less hard-working owing to their size, and thus can take a thinner oil?

[MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Yes, the low-fuel light is definitely not working. Absolutely certainly. Ran out of fuel today after work going to pick up my son. Of course it's freezing cold, and dark, and I managed to roll to a stop in the middle of a bunch of half-frozen mud puddles in a side lot. Walked to a nearby gas

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread kevin kraly
Diesel: Tastes better than gas! Try tasting model engine fuel, YUCK! I had this one engine that would clog up at the carburetor after sitting idle for extended periods. I either had to pressurize the tank, clean out the inlet with a small Allen wrench, or both to get it to run which would

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - I would look at the obvious things first, like injectors. I had all of mine in the SD taken out, checked for spray pattern and calibrated. My indy did me a favor by replacing one that had a leak, and that made the engine idle pretty

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote: You're kidding, Mark. That's great. I've thought about that for years. I really get a bad feeling when I see reserved parking spots. Well, I guess not so much from a few reserved spots for a few key people, as I do from a policy that designates the

Re: [MBZ] Governer question - injection charge profile

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Andrew Cunningham wrote: Thanks for the info and link to the book, I just ordered one myself. I am playing with microcontrollers and plan to hijack the pressure signal to the ALDA and adjust for actual air temperature after the turbo and intercooler (in garage now, not

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: policy that designates the closest part of the parking lot for people of a certain level, and the outer reaches for the pee-ons. I always thought the employee/customer parking policies at universities were nuts. The customers, who come and go all day, park 1/2 mile or

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Seems like the easiest place to start is by running a can of diesel purge through it.

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread jwreames
Anyone have a pair of clic clamp pliers that I can borrow? -j. -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seems like the easiest place to start is by running a can of diesel purge through it. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 25 13:37:09 2007 Received:

[MBZ] OT: reserved parking places

2007-01-25 Thread Dan Weeks
My dad was a corporate division manager for a fortune 500 corporation based in Boston. After he was appointed, his second-in-command complained that he didn't have a reserved parking space. My dad said take mine. My dad drove a 6-cyl, three-on-the-tree chevy short-box pickup (in the early

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Christopher McCann
Just so happens GW is in town (Kansas City) today. Hwy 169 was shut down. LAST time he was here, I did pass the motorcade on Hwy 71. Northbound was open (me and...MB CONTENT my 300SD were heading north). Southbound was closed for miles and miles and miles. Cops at every on ramp, and the

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
So where do you live that the diesels require a nearby plug-in? We never have that luxury hear in good ol' D.C. On 1/25/07, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with 9 employees that own 5 diesels, our company policy is gas cars to the right - diesels to the left (where the electrical

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Christopher McCann
Kansas City. It does not get that cold here very often, but we just had a spell of 4 degree F days, so the plug was important. I asked to have the outlet installed. Small company, they do things like that for you. :-) Chris andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where do

[MBZ] OT - Am I the only one who finds this bone

2007-01-25 Thread Glenn M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Diesel: Tastes better than gas! Try tasting model engine fuel, YUCK! I had this one engine... Castor oil and methanol? Yuck is right. Maybe your fuel was worse than that. It smells terrible when burned, I can't imagine it's any better 'raw'. Of the common liquid (not liquified) fuels, I

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sound ls like a cross between a PIA and a can of worms. On 1/25/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lenses on my W123 1983 300TD is because the rear end is TOO LOW. Is this easily adjustable or an indicator of a seriously expensive problem that requires expensive parts and labor??

Re: [MBZ] OT - Am I the only one who finds this bone

2007-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I keep on getting a server error for this link. What gives? On 1/25/07, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070125/b9564304/attachment.pl

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread jwreames
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Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-25 Thread mykd1
None of the 380 SE and SEL's were gray market cars. The 380 was introduced to the states in 1981 to take the place of the 450 SE and SEL which was discontinued here in 80. Harry 69 280 SEL 135,000 Miles 72 350SL 118,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-25 Thread Kevin
Anything different if the car seems to not be a US spec car? The timing chains get upgraded the same year? On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:19:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of the 380 SE and SEL's were gray market cars. The 380 was introduced to the states in 1981 to take the place of

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-25 Thread mykd1
I'm not aware of many gray market 380's getting to the states. If by some possiblility any 380's made it to the states they probably had better timing chains and gears to make up for the higher HP figures of the euro cars. I remember when the 380 was introduced here, it was a really sharp

Re: [MBZ] 3.8L 126?

2007-01-25 Thread tom savage
Kevin wrote: Anything different if the car seems to not be a US spec car? The timing chains get upgraded the same year? All the non-US/Canadia 3.8L engines had the double-row chain from the start; the single-row chain was unique to the North American market in an attempt to reduce internal

Re: [MBZ] OT - Diesel Mini Cooper coming

2007-01-25 Thread ernest breakfield
the Cooper D has been available outside the US for years; it was intended to come to the US, but allegedly when it couldn't pass emissions here in Calif, BMW decided to nix its availability here completely. pity; i'd love to see something that looks like that much fun here and gets that

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: Thanks for posting this. I just realized that the reason I am forever busting the reverse light lenses on my W123 1983 300TD is because the rear end is TOO LOW. Is this easily adjustable or an indicator of a seriously expensive problem that requires expensive parts and

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Booth
Marshall Booth wrote: I believe it's covered (or maybe not) in this section of the manual: http://www.bruckmann.com/32-501.pdf Marshall Yes, the note at the top of page 4 cautions against adjusting height using the self leveling system! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof.

[MBZ] Another Netzro change w/o informing subscribers

2007-01-25 Thread Glenn M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Booth
John W. Reames III wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Werner Fehlauer wrote: John - I would look at the obvious things first, like injectors. I had all of mine in the SD taken out, checked for spray pattern and calibrated. My indy did me a favor by replacing one that had a leak, and that made the

[MBZ] Someone on Letterman just purchased a diesel

2007-01-25 Thread Glenn M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] Someone on Letterman just purchased a diesel

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Do tell. Wasn't able to see your message or attachment but am curious. Brian On 1/25/07, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070125/311fb50b

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-25 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have replaced the rear air cells on this car and the front subframe mounts. Is there another set of subframe mounts in the rear that would cause the rear end to drop?? . On 1/25/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall Booth wrote: I believe it's covered (or maybe not) in

[MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/268219025.html $50 each -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] [OT] The Imperial Presidency

2007-01-25 Thread Kris Gilmore
At 01:34 PM 1/24/2007, Lee wrote: Werner Fehlauer wrote: A good example of where our tax dollars are being wasted: This morning, on a drive from NJ to DC, I had occasion to drive by Newcastle (snip) traffic on I-95 and local roads. Of course, the inconvenience and

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Gary Hurst
eh, i already have 3 macs, so enough for now for me. i don't think i'm going to buy any more g3s anwyay. On 1/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/268219025.html $50 each -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Lee Einer
Redghost wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/268219025.html $50 each -- That's $50 more than I will pay, but it's a great deal. I bet they will run Linux just fine. Lee

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Gary Hurst
my g3 imac is a 500mhz and it really is adequate for web browsing, email and word processing. and it's as fast as a new pc once the pc gets hosed. my main machine is a dual 500mz g4 gigabit ethernet powermac. while this machine would be considered hopelessly obsolete, it can do anything i ask

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread Chris Kueny
I believe that Marshall once said that removal and cleaning can often get that thing working again. Remove all the scum and seaweed there, and you might be done. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback I checked my low-fuel bulb, and it's good.

Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap status

2007-01-25 Thread Zeitgeist
Barnacles and plankton are your enemies On 1/25/07, Chris Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that Marshall once said that removal and cleaning can often get that thing working again. Remove all the scum and seaweed there, and you might be done. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in

Re: [MBZ] Someone on Letterman just purchased a diesel

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Booth
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Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
See, this was a test to check y'all's readiness to steer clear of oil threads. You passed! Stay ready, men. Brian On 1/25/07, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity, why would truckers want a 5w oil -- ease of starting? And if 5w is good enough to protect their engines, why

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
From a school of massage. Keyboards have been kept well-greased. Seriously though, if I lived near there, I'd get one or two. Brian On 1/25/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/268219025.html $50 each -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995

Re: [MBZ] OT: reserved parking places

2007-01-25 Thread Zoltan Finks
Love it. The type of person I'd likely respect. Quiet, calm, humble leaders get my respect. By the way, why a Scion, if you don't mind me asking? Brian On 1/25/07, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dad was a corporate division manager for a fortune 500 corporation based in Boston. After

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Lee Einer wrote: That's $50 more than I will pay, but it's a great deal. I bet they will run Linux just fine. I got a dual g4-533 for $100 and it is steamin with osx10.4.8 on it! -j.

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Gary Hurst wrote: the only argument i'm making here is that a 6 year old mac is still a pretty useful and practical tool for most users. While still running the latest OS and apps. Put that in your PC and watch it grind and smoke! g (typing this on a PC thats SSH'ed into

Re: [MBZ] E300Dt question

2007-01-25 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Marshall Booth wrote: What you are describing is rarely due to injectors. EGR or EGR control much more likely - especially in the 2000-2600 rpm range. Check the electrical connections to the temp switch and the electrical/vacuum control to the EGR. I have NOT worked on

Re: [MBZ] OT- Hursty wants macs

2007-01-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Except for games and large graphics files, a 10 year old mac is usable -- web pages are slow, that's all. I'm using a BW G3 with 512MB ram, and while it's slower than the work computers (new Dells), it's not that much slower. I'm happy, it cost me all of $35 and $60 for a 400 MHz processor.

Re: [MBZ] Process for installing 30TD's rear suspension struts - THANKS

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: I have replaced the rear air cells on this car and the front subframe mounts. Is there another set of subframe mounts in the rear that would cause the rear end to drop?? The rear subframe (that's the subframe at the rear of the car) mounts collapse after 10-15 years

Re: [MBZ] Where to get Mobil 1 (was: Zerex G-05)

2007-01-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I think, like many other people the world around, you miss the point. The trick with oil is to have it protect enough while being as thin as possible to do its job. Oil thats too thick makes for harder starting and requires greater clearances. Run 15w40 in a new Honda for instance and dollars