[MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
Hopped in my car this morning and drove down the street to be confronted by the sight of a Bugatti Veyron coming the other wayslowlypurposefully. Nothing like seeing a car that costs £850,000 on the road to get the blood stirring! Wider than I thought! BIG car.. London realy has

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread OK Don
That IS remarkable!!! On 3/4/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopped in my car this morning and drove down the street to be confronted by the sight of a Bugatti Veyron coming the other wayslowlypurposefully. Nothing like seeing a car that costs £850,000 on the road to get the

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
I went to order one but they said it would take a year, so I think I am going for the Bentley Continental GT instead. There were 4 or 5 sitting at the dealer today, but the convertible in the color I want is back-ordered. Poo. --R Jeff Zedic wrote: Hopped in my car this morning and drove

Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
So what is the deal with WP vs OEM or Benz parts? Is WP some knock-off thing? Does that go for various parts or just this muffler? --R

Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread LarryT
Hi Joe, Sorry to hear of your troubles. I bought a complete exhaust system for my 78 240D from Rusty a couple of years ago - and last Jan I bought a rear muffler for the 91 300D which looked to be identical to the original that came off - and the fit was perfect. My point being,

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread LarryT
Cool!! I must admit, that's one car I *never* expect to see in person! As far as wide is concerned, I saw a fairly new Lotus Esprit and that's a surprisingly wide car IMO. But Bugatti? Nothing approaches that as far a Exclusive goes. Awesome -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

[MBZ] OM603 belt tensioner

2007-03-05 Thread Bob DuPuy
Ok so, checking the oil in the wifes oil in the SDL and low and behold the top bolt for the belt tensioner shock is missing and so is the top bushing and the threads in the head too. I figure I can helicoil the threads, but what is the list wisdom on OEM, OE or after market for the shock and

Re: [MBZ] pismo being delivered to me

2007-03-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 00:20:25 -0600 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove the and that is tacked onto the end of the url - like this - http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos/Telephones/US-West_Old-School_Cell_Phone_Horiz_Tan_web.jpg and try it. Yeah, that works much better! I didn't notice

Re: [MBZ] OM603 belt tensioner

2007-03-05 Thread Jim Cathey
sharp vibration and the belt was visibliy jumping. Any advice or guidance will be appreciated. Check carefully the big center rocker bearing. For whatever reason, ball bearings that rock rather than spin don't seem to last too long. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] pismo being delivered to me

2007-03-05 Thread Jim Cathey
http://www.oaktreeent.com/web_photos/Telephones/US-West_Old- School_Cell_Phone_Horiz_Tan_web.jpg Hey, I've got one of those. It rides in the console of the truck, for potential 911 use. Probably won't be too much longer before it won't even be able to do that. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
WHat a machine that is!! Incredible piece of work there. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:07 PM Subject: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything Hopped in my car this morning and

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Zeitgeist
Fastest Volkswagen ever!

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Fastest production car ever as well. Mike - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything Fastest Volkswagen ever!

Re: [MBZ] pismo being delivered to me

2007-03-05 Thread LT Don
This is not a joke. Would you like a little digital to carry for 911 purposes? We collect used cell phones at work as a fund raiser but get only $1 each for them. I'd be happy to grab a good one for you (with both house and car charger) and mail it off to you. Won't be activated but that

Re: [MBZ] pismo being delivered to me

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Don, If you ever run across a good quality phone for Sprint I would be interestedThe one Toni has is a piece of junk and they want ridiculous money to upgrade as it's a fairly new contract. Heck, I'd pay them $2 each plus shipping for a whole big box of phonesany brand, any

Re: [MBZ] pismo being delivered to me

2007-03-05 Thread LT Don
You (or anyone else who wants this deal) can email me off-list where to mail the package (so Google doesn't cache your mailing address w/ GMail) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] I in turn will give you an address to which to send a small contribution -- tax deductible, too. We are a not-for-profit. And

Re: [MBZ] OM603 belt tensioner

2007-03-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Check carefully the big center rocker bearing. For whatever reason, ball bearings that rock rather than spin don't seem to last too long. Fretting? Depends on how far they rock. Train rides used to cause fretting in wheel bearings before the new cars got to the

Re: [MBZ] It isn't as bad as Taxachussets, is it?

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
I wonder what county has the second LOWEST rate. On 3/4/07, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, e.h., There was a recent local evening TV news story as well as an article in our Sun. newpaper indicating our county tax rate being the second highest in the country. G. M. Brown Rochester

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Well that depends on what you define as a production car, every car is produced. Wether one or 10 million are made, however personally I think production car means a car made in large volume on a assembly line vs a car which is 'handbuilt' and therefore an exotic car. Anyway all I know you do

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Tom, thanks for your learned and ideology free dissertation on the consequences of low vs. high taxation rates. I am suitably enlightened. Here in D.C., we get a better return on our tax dollars through the election of smart mayors than from anything else. For example, snow removal for the

Re: [MBZ] Rousting Rusty, or new muffler for my '87TD

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Rusty has done this sort of service before for me. He's True Religion for new Mercedes car parts. On 3/4/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Joe, Sorry to hear of your troubles. I bought a complete exhaust system for my 78 240D from Rusty a couple of years ago - and last Jan I bought

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

2007-03-05 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, Is that evaluation of smart mayors based upon the basepoint of the administration of Marion Barry? Most then qualify as smarter. Was there while that was happening! Chuck Now happy in Phoenix AZ On Mar 4, 2007, at 9:03 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Tom, thanks for your learned

Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D

2007-03-05 Thread Peter Merle
On the pointedthree forum we talk like this all the time ! Peter -Original Message- From: Bob Rentfro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2007 05:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mystery Water leak W123 300D Peter told us: I am loosing 1.4 mm /week Only

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
I see lots of cool cars all day long here. Have you seent he Smart Roadster? Lots of Lotus Exige. Saturday I saw no less than TWO Caterham Sevens pass me. I think one was the new extra light version. Ariel Atoms, Ferraris a dime a dozen, Not to mention the best news I've had in a while...over

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Either way the Bugatti is way cool and ANY car that can run 253MPH and has a trunk and radio is impressive to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:58 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Maryland inspections/registration

2007-03-05 Thread Curt Raymond
I took Dory for her annual once over on Saturday. Did a quick lights check before I left and everything was groovy, got there and 2 tail lights out... Popped the cluster out and one bulb came back on, I replaced the other, making it look like I'd replaced two and made a mental note to check out

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread Steve MacSween
That is downright eerie. Look at the detail. Mac on 3/4/07 14:16, TimothyPilgrim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/estevesm/103896542/in/pool-w123/

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread E M
Wonder why he didn't opt for a 600 SWB? Zeb On 05/03/07, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is downright eerie. Look at the detail. Mac on 3/4/07 14:16, TimothyPilgrim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/estevesm/103896542/in/pool-w123/

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Wonder why he didn't opt for a 600 SWB? Why haven't you? It's what the kid wanted. So he got it. Not to my taste, but de gustibus non disputandum. (Or whatever.) It's made the rounds on this mailing list before, or its predecessor. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

2007-03-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
NC is OK (I moved here when I retired in 05) but NC has both sales and income tax. Several other states, like FL, TX, etc, only have sales or income tax. NC does have the Bailey ruling, however, where some forms of federal and state retirement (like military) are not taxed. Scott Ritchey

[MBZ] Carfax Please

2007-03-05 Thread Frederick Moir
Hi, All. Could whoever has a current Carfax please run one on:- vin WDBDA28D2PG090558 190E TIA Fred Moir Lynn MA - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 05 17:07:30 2007

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Nice bit of grunt ?? We North Americans aren't used to such colorful (colourful, i.e.) expressions.. On 3/5/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see lots of cool cars all day long here. Have you seent he Smart Roadster? Lots of Lotus Exige. Saturday I saw no less than TWO Caterham

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
If it has 6 radiators how many fuel tanks does it have? 12?? On 3/5/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Either way the Bugatti is way cool and ANY car that can run 253MPH and has a trunk and radio is impressive to me. Mike - Original Message - From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread E M
Said he wanted a luxury Benz. I never think of a 123 as a luxury Benz, limo or not. As for me, who says I haven't considered a 600? One I looked at was a driver thought. Zeb On 05/03/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder why he didn't opt for a 600 SWB? Why haven't you? It's

Re: [MBZ] *Almost* makes me want to move to NY State

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
High sales tax states are both regressive in their taxing philosophy and harsh on lower income folks. I find it ironic that demagogic politicians like to tout their low tax ideology while socking it to the poor by opposing progressive taxes on income (including unearned income) while stealthily

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
On 05/03/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it has 6 radiators how many fuel tanks does it have? 12?? Andrew, It actually has TEN radiators and a 100 litre fuel tank. At top speed it gets 125l/100 km or just 2.1 mpg fuel economy. It'll empty the tank in 12.5minutes! Jeff

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
I read a review of this thing in CarDriver or somewhere, even at low (legal) speeds I think it had like a 200 mile range (or something like that), which I guess is OK if you want something so outrageous to putt around in. Probably would not want to go on a trip with it -- with stops for fuel

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread Steve MacSween
I think you all missed that the guy died in 1981. Mac on 3/5/07 13:34, E M at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Said he wanted a luxury Benz. I never think of a 123 as a luxury Benz, limo or not. As for me, who says I haven't considered a 600? One I looked at was a driver thought. Zeb On

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Some of us are...Loosely translatedIt pulled the hills well. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything Nice bit of

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Actually I believe it has 10 radiators...I could be mistaken. Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron) If it has

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
And wear out a set of tires in just 15 minutes. Mike - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron) On 05/03/07, andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Mike Canfield
How many HP is a P51? The Veyron is 1,001. Mike - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron) I read a review of this thing in

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Rich Thomas
P51 stats from quick googling. If the Veyron gets 2.1 mpg at top speed (say 240mph, 4 miles/min) is about 2 gal/min! The P51 cruises at 1 gpm at economy cruise and ~1.5 gpm at 95% power. 9 gal to warm up and take off is about, say, 5 gal/mile or 0.2 mpg -- that is full throttle at low

Re: [MBZ] fretting

2007-03-05 Thread RELNGSON
It's my understanding that the term is frenelling. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] That Benz is Rock Solid

2007-03-05 Thread E M
As far as I know, production for the 600 SWB continued up to '81. Zeb On 05/03/07, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think you all missed that the guy died in 1981. Mac on 3/5/07 13:34, E M at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Said he wanted a luxury Benz. I never think of a 123 as a

[MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/288771398.html Cheap considering the bio fever up here in the PNW (123s for $5K+), but I wonder what this means: Everything works except hvac, already installed new fan and wires, just need new blower. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread Hendrik Riessen
S, don't tell the environmentalists. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron) On 05/03/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL

[MBZ] and it isn't even Friday!

2007-03-05 Thread LT Don
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/05/moose.v.helo.ap/index.html -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread Redghost
He has a nice car that will cost more than it is worth to make the blower work. Probably both the AC fan as well as the heater fan are dead. I tried to remove that AC cage a few times on that model. I am not patient enough to spend the 20 hours to fully remove it all with care and then

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Of course I could figure it out too, but I couldn't pass up an opportunity to tweak Jeff about his use of that quaint Anglo colloquialism. On 3/5/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us are...Loosely translatedIt pulled the hills well. Mike - Original Message -

Re: [MBZ] fretting

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Are you talking about lenses? Wouldn't that be fresneling?? ;) On 3/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that the term is frenelling. RLE ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from

Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen everything(Veyron)

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Too late. On 3/5/07, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: S, don't tell the environmentalists. - Original Message - From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Now I've seen

Re: [MBZ] and it isn't even Friday!

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
One wonders whether moose meat remains edible if the animal was shot with a tranquilizer dart and dies soon after from other causes... On 3/5/07, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/05/moose.v.helo.ap/index.html -- I'm a man but I can change if I have to ... I guess.

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Aha, I get it. Never looked closely at a 115 with A/C and didn't realize the A/C and heat have separate fans. Sigh. It looks great otherwise, but obviously not worth it if I'm facing a 20-hr job (or a $2K bill at the indy) to RR the fans. Wish there was a way to hack something functional in

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
He's willing to trade it for a Jaguar. I wonder if we will accept one with Lucas electronics! On 3/5/07, Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He has a nice car that will cost more than it is worth to make the blower work. Probably both the AC fan as well as the heater fan are dead. I tried

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
Too fast for my own good. Should have read I wonder if HE will accept a Jaguar with Lucas Electronics in trade. BTW, there is a fix to the W115 blower motor R/R that does involve cutting a hole in the firewall IIRC. It's in the archives somewhere. On 3/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] and it isn't even Friday!

2007-03-05 Thread Redghost
Maybe you get sleepy sausage from it. More calming than a thanksgiving dinner On Mar 5, 2007, at 2:31 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: One wonders whether moose meat remains edible if the animal was shot with a tranquilizer dart and dies soon after from other causes... On 3/5/07, LT Don

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/5/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, there is a fix to the W115 blower motor R/R that does involve cutting a hole in the firewall IIRC. It's in the archives somewhere. I always like to find more uses in the garage for a Sawzall (besides illegal exhaust-system

[MBZ] Need Part

2007-03-05 Thread LarryT
Hi Kaleb, I have been trying to replace the rear transmission mount this afternoon on my '78 240D (123.123.12.050680) - I was able to remove the tranny mount assy. from under the car but the mount is enclosed by a U-Shaped bracket which is held in place by a long (~4) allen head bolt

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread BillR
I needed to change the AC blower on my '75 240D. You can save a few hours by drilling out around the middle bolt that holds it in.. Doesn't make any difference in the end, except you get to it a lot quicker. Two of us working on it [the other guy knowing what he was doing] and it took about

Re: [MBZ] '75 300D on Craigslist - Portland, OR

2007-03-05 Thread BillR
The guy I was working with said to be happy it was not thte heater blower, because for that one you start by taking out the windshield. then it seems to get hard. Glad mine kept working. BillR - Original Message - From: BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List

[MBZ] OT- Jim Cathey respond

2007-03-05 Thread Redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/zip/288982767.html This guy is looking for some goodies you have -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Maryland inspections/registration

2007-03-05 Thread tom savage
Tony Wirtel wrote: Tom- Yea but...if you compare inspection in PA to NY, NY is a joke. At least that was the case when I was there 6 years ago. When I moved to Mississippi in 1996 and went to get my Grand Prix inspected, the guy at the counter just said Five dollars. I gave it to him, he

[MBZ] 1991 turbo questions

2007-03-05 Thread Lisa Strang
I am hoping one of you can shed some light on a problem I am having with my 124 1991 300 2.5 turbo diesel. The turbo works but not all the time- so it is just a dog when it decides not to work.(especially when trying to pass the tourist that is seeing the sights and you are late to work.) I