Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html appears to have what is needed. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: If you have it, I will combine all .pdf files into one directory and use your list as the front end. On 5/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't someone at some

Re: [MBZ] Oil pan Gasket sealant

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
You must use a sealant, the factory does. Some sort of high temp resistant RTC, the black stuff, is what you want. Glad you managed to get it repaired! Peter

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
Yea, that just might do it. Might have to drop the guy an email and ask if I can use his work on my/our site. On 5/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html appears to have what is needed. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: If you have it, I

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
Anybody know what that site belongs to? There isn't a contact me anywhere that I can see. On 5/28/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, that just might do it. Might have to drop the guy an email and ask if I can use his work on my/our site. On 5/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Oh, and this guy has indexes for a bunch of other models too: odel 107 Model 108/109/110/112 Model 114/115 Model 116 Model 123 Model 124 Model 126 Model 201 Service Library Mercedes-Benz Service Library Index Download Page --R http://web.mac.com/dakota/iWeb/Mercedes/Indexes.html

Re: [MBZ] 190E overheats

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Better boil-over protection at 75%, but you get reduced cooling capacity. Cadillac used to use 75% glycol for high temperature summer (tropical) applications. Better freeze protection, too. Peter

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
He is someone named Steve Nervigs, referenced here: http://mbca.cartama.net/archive/index.php/t-10036.html --R Wonko the Sane wrote: Yea, that just might do it. Might have to drop the guy an email and ask if I can use his work on my/our site. On 5/28/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Oil pan Gasket sealant

2007-05-29 Thread OK Don
As luck would have it, I didn't think I had enough Hylomar, so did use the High temp RTV. Now to get the alignment close enough to drive it to the shop On 5/28/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must use a sealant, the factory does. Some sort of high temp resistant RTC, the

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
Proper mixture is 50:50 whether you mix it or it's premixed.   Last time I bought it from the MB dealer (Feb 06)  it was concentrated and needed to be mixed with H2O. I have never, ever, seen premixed antifreeze and water. Why in the world would anyone buy water? RLE

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, it's out there, and I bought a lot of it when I had a mystery leak on the Volvo (and while the head gasket was bad on the 300D) -- much easier to nip into the store and grab the premix and pour. Needless to say, everything is now on a steady diet of G-05 and distilled water. Peter

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D

2007-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
pay no attention to cheap class woger, his only purpose is to make his little snide comments every now and then. Zoltan Finks wrote: I ask questions to get information. You are free to delete, friend. Brian -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-29 Thread Chris Lane
The other day I was at my mom's house, in the garage, and looked though some of my dad's old tools. I found a Proto micrometer style tourque wrench, but I know nothing about it beyond that. Is this a good brand? How can I check it to make sure its still good, what do I need to know. I know it

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you are joking right? Every mcparts and walmart I have seen always have premixed antifreeze. Not the MB stuff, but they all have it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proper mixture is 50:50 whether you mix it or it's premixed. Last time I bought it from the MB dealer (Feb 06) it was concentrated

Re: [MBZ] Oil pan Gasket sealant

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
As much as I love Hylomar and hate RTV, if there's a possibility of some larger gaps remaining, I'd go with the RTV. Hylomar fills imperfections perfectly, but it's not intended to fill gaps. Robert OK Don wrote: $150 of wleding and de-warping later, I'm about to install the

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
I saw Zerex G 05 premixed at the local NAPA store last week--but I agree-unless it is de-ionized,, filtered H20 blessed by the high priest at Stuttgart, it is a waste of money. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
These things use a header tank that is (a shit, can't think of the word) but you can see the coolant level in them. The level sensor can get filled with crap and make it go wonky but are easy to remove and clean. Doubt the air bubble theory, I have changed coolant in 201's a couple of dozen

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Don't confuse people, if it is good enough to drink it is good enough to go in the engine. - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Some cheap anti freeze stuff will eat your aluminum, don't skimp on coolant. - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E While

Re: [MBZ] M 102 knocks on startup: Why

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Impossible. - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M 102 knocks on startup: Why The M102 has a ratcheting tensioner. Likely it has

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
You can get ready to go coolant but that is irrelevant to MB cars. Also a lot of people seem to buy bottled water to drink, you know that fancy tap water that is sold as coming from the rarest of rare springs high up in the Andes mountaines. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Better pay attention next time you buy anti-freeze..There's like 9 different jugs at Wally Land and only a couple are full strengthVery deceptive marketing as the 50/50 appears cheaper at a glance. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
We wont let our kids ride bikes around here except at the bike trails at the park or in the yard, it's just not safe. as much as I'd like to see the oldest boy get a bit more exercise , I'd rather not see him get flattened. Pretty sad, When I was his age , out in California, we used to ride

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
At a lot of places the 50/50 is the same price as the straight stuff. I guess they charge extra for all the labour involved in pre mixing it :-) --Robert Mike Canfield wrote: Better pay attention next time you buy anti-freeze..There's like 9 different jugs at Wally Land and only a

Re: [MBZ] Carfax needed on car we are considering

2007-05-29 Thread John Freer
What's your paypal handle Kaleb? Lord knows you have sent me 5 bucks worth over the yearsI'm in. On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why thanks. I usually keep a subscription mainly for running reports fo r the list. Will renew it again ASAP BillR wrote: Decided it

Re: [MBZ] OT '78 VW Rabbit questions

2007-05-29 Thread Zeitgeist
The Audi section of www.buyeuroparts.com hasn't worked for weeks, now. I can select the year and model, then it goes to some lame nondescript, testimonials page. No parts or nuthin -- WTF? On 5/25/07, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, www.BuyEUROparts.com and www.BuyASIANparts.com

Re: [MBZ] Carfax needed on car we are considering

2007-05-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
[EMAIL PROTECTED], but its NOT necessary John Freer wrote: What's your paypal handle Kaleb? Lord knows you have sent me 5 bucks worth over the yearsI'm in. On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why thanks. I usually keep a subscription mainly for running reports fo r the

Re: [MBZ] Oil pan Gasket sealant

2007-05-29 Thread OK Don
RTV it was. We'll see how good it is - one of the 10 bolts at the back end of the pan was stripped - it's tight enough to stay in place (so far), and I applied blue lock-tite. I'll be watching to see what happens. I did notice that the label on the pan gasket states that it's for M104, OM603 and

Re: [MBZ] torque wrench shopping

2007-05-29 Thread Rick Knoble
The other day I was at my mom's house, in the garage, and looked though some of my dad's old tools. I found a Proto micrometer style tourque wrench, but I know nothing about it beyond that. Is this a good brand? How can I check it to make sure its still good, what do I need to know. I

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread kok.hong
Mine ('93 190E2.3 gas) last from '93 to '06 (original radiator); did not use the green stuff. The low coolant is strange as I did changed coolant and thermostat in the past many times and had no problem. KS - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] water

2007-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
you are joking right?  Every mcparts and walmart I have seen always have premixed antifreeze.  Not the MB stuff, but they all have it. I suppose you buy pre-mixed windshield washer solvent, too. Snidely. RLE ** See what's free at

Re: [MBZ] wally water

2007-05-29 Thread RELNGSON
Better pay attention next time you buy anti-freeze..There's like 9 different jugs at Wally Land and only a couple are full strengthVery deceptive marketing as the 50/50 appears cheaper at a glance. I am not a Walmart customer. The closest one is a 40 mile round trip and the

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yeah but you have to buy twice as much of the stuff. - Original Message - From: Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] premixed? Better pay attention next time you buy

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Merle
Here in South Africa Mercedes Benz OEM coolant is green and is specified to 325.0 . Its applications include all current models. Colour has no bearing on the coolant's compatibility with mercedes benz specification. PEter -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] OT: Toyota Turbo Diesel

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Merle
Why was the vehicle RHD? Peter -Original Message- From: Rory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 May 2007 12:20 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Toyota Turbo Diesel Hey Guys, Just had an interesting experience at work (US Customs). A Gentleman brought a 1989 Toyota

Re: [MBZ] 190E overheats

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
I was told long ago that straight water cools better than antifreeze. Of course this option is dismal for long term. Growing up in AZ, you run into a lot of cars that have straight water in them. Coolant leaks are common, and when you don't need freeze protection, straight water is a very

[MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
That encapsulates it, sad as it is. I a glad I do not ride a motorcycle anymore. Things have changed from really bad to ridiculously bad. Funny, when I'm out road-riding on a bicycle, most people around here, I must admit, show the decency to pull somewhat to the left and provide safety and

Re: [MBZ] OT: Toyota Turbo Diesel

2007-05-29 Thread Jeff Zedic
They make them RHD so that the rural postmen can go down the road on the right side and put mail in the boxes without having to exit the vehicle. A lot of funny little USPS vehicles were like that too. Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Jeff Zedic
On 29/05/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's out there, and I bought a lot of it when I had a mystery leak on the Volvo (and while the head gasket was bad on the 300D) -- much easier to nip into the store and grab the premix and pour. Needless to say, everything is now on a

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote: (And no, I am not in support of bicyclists arrogantly taking up too much space in the roadway - they do not have the right to do so). If there is not room to safely share the lane, the cyclist may and should ride far enough to the left to force passing traffic to wait

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Merle wrote: Here in South Africa Mercedes Benz OEM coolant is green and is specified to 325.0 . Its applications include all current models. Colour has no bearing on the coolant's compatibility with mercedes benz specification. I wonder if SA standards require it to be green, like

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Rich Thomas
If you don't like how I drive, stay off the sidewalk is the operative principle in Boston, where more accidents are caused by 2 drivers trying to hit the same pedestrian than for any other reason. --R (or Boston, where it is common knowledge that you don't step off the curb, or it's your ass)

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread dave walton
I won't drink my tap water. Why would I ever feed it to my battery?? -Dave Walton On 5/29/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/05/07, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it's out there, and I bought a lot of it when I had a mystery leak on the Volvo (and while the head

Re: [MBZ] OT '78 VW Rabbit questions

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
The Audi section of www.buyeuroparts.com hasn't worked for weeks, now. I can select the year and model, then it goes to some lame nondescript, testimonials page. No parts or nuthin -- WTF? It's just editorializing. Just be glad you didn't find a way to select Pugeot, you wouldn't like what

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? On 5/28/07, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep Mike Canfield wrote: Looks like a load of fun ay Kaleb? Mike - Original Message - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
I'm a chemist, I know more about water than I ever really wanted too. Mine is VERY hard, so I use distilled water for the coolant. Peter

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
(And no, I am not in support of bicyclists arrogantly taking up too much space in the roadway - they do not have the right to do so). If there is not room to safely share the lane, the cyclist may and should ride far enough to the left to force passing traffic to wait until it is safe to

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
You shouldn't use distilled water in the coolant. Use it for your battery but not coolant. If Marshall was here he'd explain the chemistry but I think it may have to do with ionization. Tap water is better than distilled unless you have VERY hard water in your area. Distilled water is _not_

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123 Wonder what country has

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Glycol is colorless. The color of the coolant is dye, and the long life and MB types for high aluminum content engines are dyed yellow, red, or orange to make them visually different than the standard green coolant, which does not have sufficient anti-corrosive reserve for use in MB engines,

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
I've often thought of carrying my Nagant on my motorcycle as well but figured some hotshot rookie cop would want to give me a bunch of shit over it. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's about the culture of that country, not money. I was mererly curious. On 5/29/07, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares? Why does eveything have to be about money to some folks? Mike - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
have sufficient anti-corrosive reserve for use in MB engines, or for the 5 year life expected of Dex-Cool. The 5-year expected life for Death Cool is for the _engine_, not the coolant. A common misconception! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Jim Cathey
I've often thought of carrying my Nagant on my motorcycle as well but figured some hotshot rookie cop would want to give me a bunch of shit over it. I figured a short polite conversation with them about it would probably swing them completely to your side, once they'd had a minute or

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
But your question asks about it making economic sense...I am sure it makes none at all. I doubt that man is similar to very many others in his country so he would seem to me to be a poor example of that countries culture. Just a man that loves his car.Love makes no sense at all.

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Really? They last that long? H. Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E have

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Last time I checked here, a bicycle _is_ a car so far as the law is concerned. You treat them like such, and you ride them like such. And it stinks, last time I was forced to (single, and having my truck worked on at at shop that wasn't particularly

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
You do have a very good point there... Mike - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers I've often thought of

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
The last MB coolant I bought was pretty much colorless, IIRC. A couple of years ago. I use Zerex now, mainly because it's easy to get locally. Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glycol is colorless. The color of the coolant is dye, and the long life and MB types for high aluminum

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: speaking of bottled water, I saw a test recently - perhaos it was Consumers Reports and they found higher leverls od contamination in the bottled / spring water than in the water provided by the kitchen faucet. Of course, some kitchen faucets provde stuff

Re: [MBZ] 190E overheats

2007-05-29 Thread LarryT
Zoltan wrote:was told long ago that straight water cools better than antifreeze. Check out http://autorepair.about.com/cs/coolingsystem/a/aa081101a.htm which has this table - Water 50:5070:30 AF/Water Freezing point - 32F-35F-67F Boiling

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread John Robbins
My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road bicycling... She was riding home from work in Huntsville (she co-ops there, I'm in Starkville at the moment) with a friend. Its a 15 mile ride into work and there have been a group of people doing it for about three years

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: How many times have I had to stand on the brakes to avoid clobbering some ipod-wearing, text-message-absorbed student who simply crosses the street without so much as a glance to the side. Not that this forgives them any (or keep them from cleaning up the gene pool) but on

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
Sorry for your loss, John. You just never know All anyone can do is make sure they are taking all known/reasonable precautions...you don't want to give fate an advantage. Bob R. - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Very sorry for your loss JohnI don't even know what to say. Best wishes, Mike - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and

[MBZ] Distilled water here and there

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Bigham
You should use distilled water in your battery to limit the odd ions in the electrolyte. But that is really a minor effect, and people use tap water in batteries all the time without noticeable loss of battery life. Years ago when I pumped gas, I remember well being told to fill up the

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Royce Engler
Tom H said.Windows XP has no problem connecting to an ftp site without a special ftp program. That's true, but it's been my experience that Explorer has problems making large downloads...e.g. the contents of a CD-ROM. My company's clients often upload very large (1GB) zip files to our ftp

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread dave walton
Oops. Got confused with another email thread I had going on. I *meant* to refer to coolant, not batteries. -Dave Walton On 5/29/07, dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't drink my tap water. Why would I ever feed it to my battery?? -Dave Walton On 5/29/07, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Distilled water here and there

2007-05-29 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: Mercedes recommends use of tap water to dilute the coolant, unless it is exceptionally hard water. Pure distilled water is not electrolytic, but it is a rather good solvent and it will tend to pull minerals from the aluminum alloys in the head. Tap water already has some

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Gary Hurst
i run 1/3 coolant and 2/3 water, btw On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proper mixture is 50:50 whether you mix it or it's premixed. Last time I bought it from the MB dealer (Feb 06) it was concentrated and needed to be mixed with H2O. I have never, ever, seen premixed

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread John Robbins
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never, ever, seen premixed antifreeze and water. Why in the world would anyone buy water? You don't have a water bill? ;)

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
J Hur (that's [among other things I'm sure] is what the kids would call you) typed: i run 1/3 coolant and 2/3 water, btw I too run more H2O than coolant usually since I live on the surface of the sun. So...that leads to the question: That peach colored stuff we mix with water and put in our

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Gary Hurst
more an antifreeze and anticorrosive. i presume it raises the boiling temperature over that of water, but maybe it is just the system pressure that does that. water is a superior coolant however. On 5/29/07, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: J Hur (that's [among other things I'm sure] is

[MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion

2007-05-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Anybody else see Pimp My Ride on Sunday night? It was a special Earth Day show. The featured car was a '65 Impala with a souped-up Duramax V-8 and Allison tranny, running on biodiesel. It looked like extensive modifications to the firewall were necessary to fit the drivetrain in, along with a

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
If you really never need freeze protection maybe just water and anti-corrosion (e.g. Water Wetter[1]) would be good, at least as far as optimal heat-transfer capability? Footnotes: [1] http://www.redlineoil.com/products_coolant.asp?subCategoryID=4 Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: more

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
John, My condolences to you-I am so sorry to read this. However, thank you for sharing this-I cycle about 700 miles a season, mostly on rural roads and in a small village. After a close call last fall (Cellphone, mini van, not looking at me, etc) I started wearing HI VIZ green jersey and have a

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread R A Bennell
Oh, come, come, couldn't you see the tongue in my cheek? There tends to be regular promotion of only the best synthetic whatever. I wonder how many threads, or posts there have been in regard to Mobile 1 and the various grades etc. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer

2007-05-29 Thread Kevin J. Slater
87's? Or are we talking W123's? Kaleb C. Striplin said: Yea, it would have been worth 5-600, its WAY too much right now considering a guy has 2 of them he wants me to buy, $2500 for one and $3500 for the other. Both run and drive fine, one has a new head Allan Streib wrote: It's up to

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
There are NO regulations on bottled water. It does not have to be bacteria free, it doesn't have to meet potability standards, etc. Thank goodness most of it is grossly overpriced city tap water, although it doesn't have to be. Peter -Original Message- From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-29 Thread R A Bennell
I really have to say that I prefer having dye in the bottle. I have some in the garage now that is clear and when I add, I always wonder if I may have filled the bottle with water only. I try to label the jugs as mixed or straight but I am not anal enough to be totally consistent and sometimes

Re: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion

2007-05-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
X to da Z is off da hook, yo. Bob R - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion Anybody else see Pimp My Ride on Sunday night? It

Re: [MBZ] 190E overheats

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Plain water cools better (that is, it transfers heat from the engine to the air better) so long as it is liquid. However, the temperature of the head is above the boiling point of water quite often in the summer, so the water boils and steam transfers MUCH less heat than water -- roasted head.

[MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
First a confession- my 240D has the green stuff in it from a PO and I need to get it out of there and will do so in the next few weeks, when I get time. I have had this car 4 ½ years-some PO pulled out aux fan, part of AC system, etc. For the first 3 ½ years it almost never ran above

Re: [MBZ] premixed?

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
If you never need freeze protection, chances are you are in a tropical environment and instead need boilover protection. The practical limit for pressure is 20 psi (hard to keep the hoses on the fittings above that), so you need something to keep the coolant from boiling. Water Wetter won't

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the radiator for a cold spot in front of the fan. If it's aluminum, and it does have a cold spot, likely it will have to be replaced. Green stuff often contains phosphates as anticorrisives, and they precipitate a calcium/aluminum/phosphate crud that cannot be removed by anything that

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Peter, I don't want to do all of these at once-given my very specific symptoms, what do you think is the most likely culprit? No water pump leakage-I have added coolant mix only once (maybe twice) in the time I have had the car-have driven it about 60K miles. Apart from the corrosion properties of

Re: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Better believe those claims are accurate...That's Gale Banks',of Banks turbo fame, personal ride. Mike - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT: unusual

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Hmph, a 240D with a Farenheit temp guage? I've never seen one of those. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: [MBZ] more cooling discussion First a

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 28 May 2007 18:17:49 -0500, Wonko wrote: Anybody know what that site belongs to? There isn't a contact me anywhere that I can see. On 5/28/07, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, that just might do it. Might have to drop the guy an email and ask if I can

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well it's an older one-my brother's 78 has one too. Maybe they changed to Celsius in 81 when they went to the ACC system? Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
You know, I was very surprised when I heard that passing a line of stopped cars on the right is illegal! I am totally opposed to this law, if it is really a law, because it effectively takes away the one advantage that bike riding provides - the ability to avoid traffic snarls! I just look at the

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
Now that is interesting. I'll have to think about this one. I agree with the spirit of the statement, and it may be legally true, but - wow, the consequences it would bring in the form of enraged motorists. That in itself may invite the most danger? brian Mitch wrote: If there is not room to

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
OH my goodness, man. I don't know what to say either. I think about the possibility every time I ride. We are at a trememdous disadvantage. Brian On 5/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road bicycling... She was

Re: [MBZ] OT: unusual diesel conversion

2007-05-29 Thread Zoltan Finks
HA! Was wondering when this show would come up again, as I mentioned it. Hard to believe, but I do stop and watch that show now, when I flip by it. It's ridiculous, but in a way that all can enjoy - not just hip-hoppers, or whatever they're called. They pimped an '80s S class recently. Brian

Re: [MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
This one was an 87, but it had a broken valve, trashed head and piston, and signs of other mediocre care and feeding (cheap respray that was now peeling off in sheets, electrical hackery, etc). Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 87's? Or are we talking W123's? Kaleb C. Striplin said:

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Chris Lane
I'm really sorry for your loss. I have ridden a bicycle for commutes, and day to day running around. It can get really scary. Drivers assume that they have the right of way. Even when a bicycle rider is doing the right thing there are always people that don't want to allow you to share the

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Mike Canfield
Guess I really never paid any attention to any older than my 82. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion Well it's an

Re: [MBZ] more cooling discussion

2007-05-29 Thread Allan Streib
My '66 230 has temperature in Farenheit and oil pressure in PSI. Allan Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guess I really never paid any attention to any older than my 82. Mike - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'

Re: [MBZ] W123 CDs

2007-05-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
I probably won't be putting his index on the FTP site. I would, however, encourage folks to grab what he has and use it on your own. On 5/29/07, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Mon, 28 May 2007 18:17:49 -0500, Wonko wrote: Anybody know what that site belongs to? There isn't

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Part of my problem is that the scale of the repair undertaking seems overwhelming in consideration of the desirability (or lack thereof) for that particular model. That plus the totally bizarre use of stacked bricks to support the vehicle. Reminds me of a William Steig cartoon from the New

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-29 Thread Kevin Kraly
Hi, John. I'm so sorry for your loss. My wife, Ayla, has been thinking of getting a motor scooter to ride around. She's blind in one eye with some vision in the other, and the thought scares me to death. We do ride our side-by-side recumbent tandem, but it's highly visible and about 4' wide

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