Re: [MBZ] McD Coffee

2008-01-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
One of the McDonalds near us already has had a McCafe for a couple of years, complete with yummy looking cakes. You lot are sooo behind the times :-) John M McIntosh wrote: Wasn't someone talking about McD's Coffee? OLATHE, Kan. -- This fall, a McDonald's here added a position to its

Re: [MBZ] Smart crash test

2008-01-07 Thread LarryT
You wrote:Who in their right mind would take a SMART on the highway anyway Howdy -- If they sell them here some one will drive them on the interstates at max speed. Just like those Emergency spare tires that have Max Speed 45 MPH printed in the sidewall - people either can't read or

Re: [MBZ] OT/ my nephew

2008-01-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
I probably approved it since it was replying to a related thread. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT/ my nephew Hey Mr.

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
The motor is 120V, it has multiple leads but these are for achieving different speeds. Indeed it does have an external starting capacitor. Of course I forgot to grab it when I left. Presumably the shop would have a suitable capacitor lying around, but that would only verify that the motor is OK

[MBZ] stratified downdraft gasifier, a.k.a. a wood-gas generator

2008-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Put one of these puppies in your trunk and you are set for the downfall of civilization! And your requisite Bush-bash in there too! --R Nifty video of a home-built stratified downdraft gasifier, a.k.a. a wood-gas generator. Wood gasification was an important 19th century fuel technology, but

Re: [MBZ] bcs dissatisfaction

2008-01-07 Thread Donald Snook
Luther wrote: Do you remember that the second time Missouri played OU? The score was 38-17 and OU is the only REAL team that you played this year (2 losses), the rest are over-rated fluff. Did you see the way your former opponent Illinois was manhandled by USC? Sorry, I don't believe

Re: [MBZ] stratified downdraft gasifier, a.k.a. a wood-gas generator

2008-01-07 Thread LarryT
it was written Put one of these puppies in your trunk and you are set for the downfall of civilization! I'm already ready - I retried with full disability in Dec 99 - now I'm producing enough gas to fill the Hindenburg daily! ;-p Have a nice week - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

Re: [MBZ] Smart crash test

2008-01-07 Thread R A Bennell
I followed one on the way to the lake a couple of summers back. I was going about 70 to 75 mph and it was ahead of me for a long way. She must have decided she was going too fast as she slowed and we then passed her. For a while I wondered what it was - really narrow and tall - thought it might

Re: [MBZ] stratified downdraft gasifier, a.k.a. a wood-gas generator

2008-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
There are medications that can help with that. --R LarryT wrote: it was written Put one of these puppies in your trunk and you are set for the downfall of civilization! I'm already ready - I retried with full disability in Dec 99 - now I'm producing enough gas to fill the Hindenburg

Re: [MBZ] Smart crash test

2008-01-07 Thread E M
We have lots for them running around town and on the highways here. They don't seem to have any problems keeping up with flow at 75 mph, and they don't seem to have any problems getting up to speed on the on ramps either. There is a dealer right next to the Benz showroom. I've had a look at them

Re: [MBZ] Smart crash test

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Again...paying about $20K (if you shop around) to get much better fuel mileage, or keep the paid off car and live with 24mph... Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:36 AM To: Mercedes Discussion

[MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
I'm confused. Was East Germany absorbed into West Germany, or was West Germany absorbed into East Germany? It seems like the East German government is the surviving entity here: http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59536 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Mitch, Try taking your kids out of the public school system without enrolling them in a Government approved private school system here in the States and you'll discover how many parents rights you don't have. And by the way, home schooling is only legal in some states because of a support network

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i just took my kid out of school, so i guess i'll find out On Jan 7, 2008 2:37 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch, Try taking your kids out of the public school system without enrolling them in a Government approved private school system here in the States and you'll discover

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: i just took my kid out of school, so i guess i'll find out If you think home schooling is bad, try refusing to send your kid to the hospital when the paramedics don't find anything wrong with him after he falls and bumps his head in the driveway.

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
What are you going to do? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost i just took my kid out

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
But are they signed up to home school is it through a state certified agency? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 2:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
you are confused because you suppose that the euros have a history of similar freedoms to those we once enjoyed here in the usa. countries such as germany have no tradition of individual liberty. consider for a moment that the most popular german leader of the last 100 years was hitler and you

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
mcguffey, dude, what else? i also signed her up for a canned program called time4learing.com, but mostly did that on price. On Jan 7, 2008 2:44 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you going to do? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
no. On Jan 7, 2008 2:51 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But are they signed up to home school is it through a state certified agency? Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 2:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
Oh yes...you said that before. Rock on! Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread John Robbins
Tom Hargrave wrote: Try taking your kids out of the public school system without enrolling them in a Government approved private school system here in the States and you'll discover how many parents rights you don't have. I think there should be accountability/basic regulations regarding

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread John Robbins
Gary Hurst wrote: no. Do you have a plan for teaching her? Just curious, but why did you take her out? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
it has to beat being shown endless videos on martin luther king by semi-literates and then representing his struggle in various art projects, no? not that i don't admire mlk, particularly his handling of the white women, but there are limits. On Jan 7, 2008 2:57 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Guess it's internet time... Allan Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What would cause a shorted winding? Do they just happen sometimes? Heat, usually. If the

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
by having the swat team kick down my door and force me to assume the position, pistol whipping me as they search for politically correct art projects? given their dismal failure, shouldn't you be more concerned about some sort of accountability regarding public schooling? On Jan 7, 2008 3:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
frustration with lack of progress in skill set development and extraordinary low expectations in this regard by the school. high expectations for conformity and low expectations for skills just have it backwards as far as we can see. On Jan 7, 2008 3:06 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread John Robbins
Allan Streib wrote: Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Guess it's internet time... www.hvac-talk.com FWIW, the **HATE** DIY folks, but you can probably search and piece together enough info to help.

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread LWB250
Just claim it's for religious reasons and they'll leave you alone... Dan --- John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: no. Do you have a plan for teaching her? Just curious, but why did you take her out? ___

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Wonko the Sane
Hire your new friends from the 'hood as body guards. On Jan 7, 2008 2:10 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by having the swat team kick down my door and force me to assume the position, pistol whipping me as they search for politically correct art projects? -- LT Don

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
not sure anarchist libertarian pacifist quite constitutes a religion. but your point is well taken. probably behooves us to join some sort of fundamentalist christian homeschooling organization for protection against vindictive action from government thugs. On Jan 7, 2008 3:20 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Fmiser
Mitch, Try taking your kids out of the public school system without enrolling them in a Government approved private school system here in the States and you'll discover how many parents rights you don't have. And by the way, home schooling is only legal in some states because of a support

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Yah, right - try that in Alabama without signing up to a big brother approved Christian homeschool organization DHR will be by to pick up the kids after a 6 week investigation. Anyone who really knows better will tell you that the state considers your children property of the state. Tom

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
the track record of fighting the man in the hood is less than exemplary. mostly they just end up in jail or dead as a result of their disagreements with the law. interestingly, they have a 2 acre backyard behind the family compound house. the house is interesting as it started as a small house

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Correct. - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 3:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost Mitch, Try taking your kids out of the public school system without

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i try to explain that to my kid all the time, how she really must be cautious because she has less rights than her dogs in the country and can be victimized by the state at their amusement. she doesn't believe me, as 10 year olds can't really grasp that the authorities have embraced evil and make

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
That's because the state considers your children property of the state you are responsible for taking care of them. Don't take care of them to the state's minimum standards (refuse to send your kid to the hospital when the paramedics don't find anything wrong with him after he falls and bumps his

[MBZ] PHX CL Einstein

2008-01-07 Thread Robert Rentfro
I don't know what to say. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/530780934.html Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Bad Biofuels

2008-01-07 Thread ernest breakfield
lot's of instances of if and may in the preceding statement... the issues related to irresponsible production aren't new or unexpected, just more examples of what we've seen throughout the ages; when greed is involved, there's a way to screw almost anything up. while BioFuels as we know

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
have you ever spoken to any products of the foster car system? they are routinely abused, neglected and even sexually molested while in state care. protecting their property doesn't even seem to exist beyond pretext. there seems nothing here beyond state sponsored terrorism and profiteering.

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote: frustration with lack of progress in skill set development and extraordinary low expectations in this regard by the school. high expectations for conformity and low expectations for skills just have it backwards as far as we can see. Hey, you're right in the heart of New

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL Einstein

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Probably a product of public schools. Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know what to say. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/530780934.html Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Smarts On The Freeway

2008-01-07 Thread Howard Fulford
A work colleague of mine had one of the early Smart cars here in the UK He used to drive the 40 or so miles from Bristol to Swindon and back each day on the freeway - used to get blown all over the place when passing, or being passed by, trucks I used to get that back in the 70's when I was a

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
Grainger.com seems to have a lot of electrical motors... John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan Streib wrote: Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Guess it's internet time... www.hvac-talk.com

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
you are trying to make me even more depressed than i already am, huh? it is stunning that the government is absolutely powerless to fight any real crime and the police simply will not protect and serve, but they have resources for all of this nonsense you have been showing us. what can one

[MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED

2008-01-07 Thread Dan Weeks
Folks: Anyone have any info on the 123 230 gassers? Were they imported, or are they by definition grey market? Is the 230 a good mill? Reliable? Good FI system? Adequate power and economy? (numbers would be nice here) Parts available (RUSTY?) and easy to work on? Any known weaknesses of

Re: [MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
The 230 is a grey market car. The few I looked at had Stromberg side draft carburetors. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 4:09 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: [MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED Folks: Anyone have any info

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Unfortunately, I've been involved with the system. We took temporary custody of a Niece while her Mother got her drug filled life in order. I learned through the process how much the State really can do. DHR was has a court order in hand to remove her from the house she was living in threatened

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread LarryT
Howdy, I guess Va is one of the few states that allow homeschooling and accomodates those wishing to do so to make things as easy as possible. My daughter decided to homeschool our g-son when he was to enter the 1st grade - luckily the state doesn't get in the way of those wishing to home

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL Einstein

2008-01-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 7, 2008 12:48 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/530780934.html The ad says new tires... he's just trying to give you a good luck at them! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread LarryT
IIRC, our g-son must be tested every 3-5 years to insure he is receiving an appropriate education.I believe he's already had one series of tests and scored very high. I mentioned mid 90% in my previous email - I believe that's the tests where he scored so highly. My wife keeps track of

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Redghost
HE just had winning bid on the old powerbook I had on eBay. I think he is going to put her to work rebuilding laptops and then selling them on craigslist. clay On 7 Jan 2008, at 11:58, Gary Hurst wrote: mcguffey, dude, what else? i also signed her up for a canned program called

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Redghost
I am not at all sure home schooling is good for most kids. The BiL who lives in the boonies of NC is going to school his kids. Their oldest is seven and has the diction of a three year old. Not sure he has a grasp of basic second grade math or reading either. Then again, I am comparing

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
I disagree with that, you are forgetting about Martin Luther who stood up to the Catholic church and won. It can be argued that his actions inspired others to stand up for their rights and may well have influenced your founding fathers and their view of liberty. Also I think to say that Hitler

Re: [MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED

2008-01-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
Gutless but reliable. Came in 230.4 or 230.6 version, neither are any good compared to the 230E or 280E. The 230.6 drinking as much juice as the 280E and having 50% less power. Your best bet for a putt putt is a 190E, very nice ladies car. Best that she has a drive of a 123 chassis and a 201

Re: [MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED

2008-01-07 Thread Hendrik Fay
Umnh sorry slight mistake, I think the 230.6 was dropped for the 123 and replaced with the 250. Hendrik Fay wrote: Gutless but reliable. Came in 230.4 or 230.6 version, neither are any good compared to the 230E or 280E. The 230.6 drinking as much juice as the 280E and having 50% less

Re: [MBZ] 123 GASSER INFO NEEDED

2008-01-07 Thread tom savage
Dan Weeks wrote: Folks: Anyone have any info on the 123 230 gassers? Were they imported, or are they by definition grey market? Is the 230 a good mill? Reliable? Good FI system? Adequate power and economy? (numbers would be nice here) Parts available (RUSTY?) and easy to work on? Any

Re: [MBZ] PHX CL Einstein

2008-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
It's pinin for Der Vaterland --R Robert Rentfro wrote: I don't know what to say. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/car/530780934.html Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

[MBZ] Part I: The Price of Biofuels

2008-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Technolgy Review is sorta an MIT publication, generally fairly accurate on tech issues but does have a Cambridge orientation to it, so set your BS meter appropriately. Making ethanol from corn is expensive. Better biofuels are years away from the gas tank. But do we really have any

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
No, what is stunning is how long it's taken to revert back to having to have someone tell you what to do - like the rest of the world. what is stunning is how we have allowed this continental tyranny to take hold in our nation. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies:

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
It's your responsibility to see that she learns something - in school or at home. She'll learn to deal with the other people on the planet at school - something that you'll have a hard time teaching her at home. given their dismal failure, shouldn't you be more concerned about some sort of

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
They aren't much different than the government in that regard. probably behooves us to join some sort of fundamentalist christian homeschooling organization for protection against vindictive action from government thugs. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies,

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: She'll learn to deal with the other people on the planet at school - something that you'll have a hard time teaching her at home. These days, it seems like they will train her to be a good slave if he lets the public school system get their hooks in her much farther. Hitler was

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
Same treatment from the religious run foster care system - it's a matter of what are you going to do with the kids abandoned by miscreant parents? On Jan 7, 2008 2:52 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you ever spoken to any products of the foster car system? they are routinely

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Wonko the Sane
The fundamentalists are much different than the government. I should know -- that is how I was reared. The government can say do it my way or to jail you go. The fundamentalists exhibit the same need for control, except they threaten you with everlasting punishment in hell instead of a brief

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
the degree of personal liberty under hitler was pretty good compared to ours in some areas. our government freaks would make old dolf blush. On Jan 7, 2008 8:45 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: She'll learn to deal with the other people on the planet at school -

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
My four kids went through the worst grade and middle schools in town, and ended up at NYU, Yale, and OU with scholarships. You are responsible for what they learn, not the school. On Jan 7, 2008 7:45 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: She'll learn to deal with the other

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
what about the kids that are kidnapped and farmed out to abusive foster homes by their friends in the government (i would presume that these government agents get some kind of kickback, but don't know how the details work)? On Jan 7, 2008 8:47 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same treatment

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm not saying that i support the fundamentalists, just that i might need their protection. On Jan 7, 2008 8:49 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fundamentalists are much different than the government. I should know -- that is how I was reared. The government can say do it my

[MBZ] Fuel economy report

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
The '90 300D 2.5 got 37.4 mpg on the 1007 mile round trip to Houston with local running around there and a trip to work today. The 300SDL got 25 MPG on the trip down (it's there for the duration of the internship). That's approximately 4 gallons per 100 miles for the 603 and 3gallons per 100 miles

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
again, they need to get their own house in order . i would bet anything that the home schoolers utterly destroy the government schoolers on these tests. why aren't the child welfare agencies dragging teachers and principals off to jail? oh, yeah, cause it's a racket! On Jan 7, 2008 6:01 PM,

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
Kidnapped Have you seen how bad it has to get before the kids are removed from a home? That's the LAST resort. Wittness the LACK of response to the ealrier reports to child wlefare about Kaleb's new kids. Follow a child welfare worker around for a few days - it'll open your eyes. We don't pay

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
Those fundamentalists will feel the need, no calling, to beat the devil out of the likes of you On Jan 7, 2008 7:59 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm not saying that i support the fundamentalists, just that i might need their protection. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are

Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed

2008-01-07 Thread Dan Weeks
Thanks Tom, Hendrik, and Tom, for your replies. Looks like it's best to avoid unless its a 230E. I'll restrict my search to that criteria. I agree the 190 would be perfect for my wife, who is rather petite. However, she was involved in a terrible accident in a civic once that had her

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 26, Issue 53

2008-01-07 Thread Dan Weeks
On Jan 7, 2008, at 7:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Weeks wrote: Folks: Anyone have any info on the 123 230 gassers? Were they imported, or are they by definition grey market? Is the 230 a good mill? Reliable? Good FI system? Adequate power and economy? (numbers would be nice here)

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
google georgia dfcs and you will have enough kidnap stories to fill a book. children are kidnapped for reasons such as there were scissors in the house. we have a customer at bimby who drives an S600 from being a professional foster parent. tom, who works at bimby, has personal knowledge of such

Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Weeks wrote: her pierced ears. She wants something more substantial feeling, whether or not the 201 is statistically safer than a 123.. Dan, Dan, you've been around too long to quote an entire digest. 450SLC are going pretty cheap these days, if she drives so little that 12 mpg won't

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: My four kids went through the worst grade and middle schools in town, and ended up at NYU, Yale, and OU with scholarships. You are responsible for what they learn, not the school. Admission to Yale is not proof that your kids were not exposed to socialist indoctrination. In

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I agree with Don. Child Services (DHR in Alabama) is the most over worked government organization in any state. The problem is that the workers have to obtain unrefutable evidence then they have to present the evidence to a Judge the judge has to issue a court order to have the child or children

Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
I believe that the best mercedes gasser is a late 80's / early 90's 300E. Find one in good shape it will go many miles. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 9:07 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
I can pretty well guarantee that's there's not much socialist leaning going on in Oklahoma --- They were exposed to far more religious far right leanings than I perfered. Admission to Yale is not proof that your kids were not exposed to socialist indoctrination. In fact, a large dose of

Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed

2008-01-07 Thread David Bruckmann
Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre-tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Having grown up Catholic, attending a Baptist Church with my Wife for years and now being a Presyterian, I think I'm qualified to state that our Government is not near as close minded unyielding as some religions. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] 123 Gasser info needed

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Mercedes was doing crash testing long before anyone else, in 1953 to be exact. Even my 1959 220S has crumple zones in the front end sheet metal. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 10:29 PM To: Mercedes List

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Tom Hargrave wrote: Child Services (DHR in Alabama) is the most over worked government organization in any state. The problem is that the workers have to obtain unrefutable evidence then they have to present the evidence to a Judge the judge has to issue a court order to have the child or

Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
They can based on observations but the conditions must be absolutely horrible undisputable. A court order is much safer because a judge is making a decision based on available evidence. This keeps the case worker isolated protected. Tom'www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Mitch

Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report

2008-01-07 Thread Rich Thomas
18 yo car in Prius territory, much lower cost of ownership too I would wager. Imagine with new technology. --R OK Don wrote: The '90 300D 2.5 got 37.4 mpg on the 1007 mile round trip to Houston with local running around there and a trip to work today. The 300SDL got 25 MPG on the trip down

Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report

2008-01-07 Thread OK Don
What fuel mileage does the '95 300D with the 606 get? THere's a nice looking one on eBay right now - in Philly that isn't going for all that much - yet. On Jan 7, 2008 10:05 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 18 yo car in Prius territory, much lower cost of ownership too I would wager.

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 1/7/2008 1:10:56 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well none of the electrical supply stores here will give me the time of day because I'm not in the electrical or HVAC trade. Graingers and Johnstone are two wholesalers that will take your cash,

Re: [MBZ] Supposed Tips on Fueling Up

2008-01-07 Thread Luther - laptop
The hose/nozzle is a vacuum operated shutoff inside the handle and will not allow milking the hose. What's in the nozzle will drain, but the hose will remain full at all times. Luther, has own mini biodiesel fuel station On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 21:30:10 -0600, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[MBZ] OT/ BCS

2008-01-07 Thread Russ Williams
Big 10 Meet the SEC Can You say Azz whipping 2 years in a row. GEAUX TIGERS Russ W. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] OT/ BCS

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
it's hard to know what to say here, but this is no surprise at all. every team in the sec is very good. few teams in the big 10 are really top teams. it's like the triple a champion playing against the world series champion to decide who is best. even if the AAA team is really, really good,

[MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion

2008-01-07 Thread Luther - laptop
Subject car: '82 300CD The fuse for the right front markerlight, right tail light, dash lights, and headlight warning buzzer (key buzzer works fine) has blown 4 times in the last 6 months. The most recent time was about 3 weeks ago (or so I thought...). Last night I opened my door and the

Re: [MBZ] OT/ BCS

2008-01-07 Thread Luther - laptop
PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!! Luther On Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:52:46 -0600, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report

2008-01-07 Thread Redghost
Depends on fuel and how you drive. I was getting 33-36mpg depending on how long I stayed on the highway. Did a cross country at 75-90mph for those results. Around town it gets down to 25mpg on B20. On 7 Jan 2008, at 20:14, OK Don wrote: What fuel mileage does the '95 300D with the 606

Re: [MBZ] OT/ BCS

2008-01-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i do think it's time On Jan 8, 2008 12:09 AM, Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!! PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!PLAYOFFS!!

Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion

2008-01-07 Thread Jim Cathey
The fuse for the right front markerlight, right tail light, dash lights, and headlight warning buzzer (key buzzer works fine) has blown 4 times in the last 6 months. I've seen a dimmer rheostat that came apart and managed to short out against something. It obviously felt like a mess,

[MBZ] Best battery for 300D

2008-01-07 Thread Lee Einer
Hi, all - It is another cold winter here in northeastern New Mexico, and the battery on the wife's 300CD has again taken a crap. It shows as fully charged when I hook up the charger, but there are no cold cranking amps and it won't turn the engine over fast enough to get it going. So now I must

Re: [MBZ] Best battery for 300D

2008-01-07 Thread Tom Hargrave
Measure the voltage across the posts while someone engages the starter make sure you are measuring at the posts themselves, not the cable ends. If the battery voltage stays above 9 volts then your issue is elsewhere. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] OT: more furnace woes

2008-01-07 Thread Allan Streib
I was hopeful about Graingers, but their nearest outlet is 50 miles away. Went to their web site and found the motor but in the process of checking out I found out that they don't want to do consumer sales either. So I'd have to fake being a business, which would almost certainly work

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