Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Yep, we've been a global economy for a long, long time - much longer than the average list member has been around. The original wheel bearings in my 1959 220S Mercedes were made in Japan. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread archer
From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just because something is made in China does not mean it's cheap and there is a huge difference in quality between Harbor Freight and Sears made in China tools. And there is more to made in wherever than most who complain will ever be willing to

Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-02-05 Thread Zoltan Finks
Thanks for a fun, helpful thread, all! I'm glad so many of you were up for it. I thought of a new bumper sticker today: Would Obama tailgate? (insert the candidate of your choice - one whose supporters you think are sheep) Was amazed this evening to find that my wife's 91 yr. old grandma is

Re: [MBZ] 2.4.8

2008-02-05 Thread Zoltan Finks
Don't know what you're all talking about. But I can see the pattern that 02/04/08 and 03/09/27 are such that the first number times the second number equals the third number. Craig's suggestions don't follow this pattern though. And the math riots? Really? At least pockets were protected and

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
kicking myself in the ass for not keeping the LWB. Crap!! What model LWB? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
its sitting on my trailer. Does it run and drive? My sister's inlaws (the same ones I bought the '78 300CD from) had a 1976 450SLC. I got to ride in it once before FIL died. It seemed powerful though it had a fuel injection problem (stumbled at times and would load up at idle). That's my

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Bought my son a band saw at Sears for Christmas - was disappointed as well to find the Made in China tag. BTW, we bought the smaller $99 band saw and it was not made as well as the next version - for $150 the band has rollers to guide the blade while the $100 version merely had metal guides -

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D oil change, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Hi Wilton - Aha! We're in the same club ;-) That's the form of the disease I have - CIDP - it's amazing how this disease affects different people. As you probably know, Mylin is the sheath that covers the nerve bundles and allows the electrical signals to travel from the extremeties to the

Re: [MBZ] 600 SWB vacuum diagram?

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Hi Ed, I have a set of MicroFische which has all the MB parts including the 600. I no longer have my viewer so I can only offer to send them and let you find a place to print the 600 stuff. Be happy to do that - usually Blueprint Reproduction services companies that cater to design firms and

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow

2008-02-05 Thread Donald Snook
Lt Don wrote: You haven't actually MET the guy, have you? When I shook his hand (I went to his event out or curiosity) and looked into his eyes in Iowa, my first thought was that he could have been Hannibal Lectur's understudy w/out going to makeup. ... But hey, vote as you wish. I thought

Re: [MBZ] 2.4.8

2008-02-05 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 01:51:30 -0800 Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know what you're all talking about. But I can see the pattern that 02/04/08 and 03/09/27 are such that the first number times the second number equals the third number. Craig's suggestions don't follow this pattern

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow

2008-02-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
Except for his we will be in Iraq for 100 years comment, I sort of like McCain. I don't agree with all of his positions but he is someone for whom I could vote. On Feb 5, 2008 8:42 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were a democrat. You wouldn't trust any republican.

Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap Question

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Dab wrote That would be the *last* thing I would put in front of the engine on a $100K car... The marketing genius' have been at work for KN for years convincing people a KN is an improvement over all other intake filters. If it were only true. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished NOW SEARS

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Mitch wrote:They figure this out long before they figure out that the people have to pay for it sometime Sadly, even though some people are shouting this loudly, it is met with deaf ears -- The govt has changed dramatically from the one set up by Madison, Jefferson and friends 250 + years ago.

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dat Foosball is Over

2008-02-05 Thread Gary Hurst
don't get me wrong. i mean, i'm big on ethnic stereotyping. i just find it odd how some groups are absolutely off limits while others can be freely denigrated at the super bowl. On Feb 4, 2008 11:54 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the one with

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow - How does it work

2008-02-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/path.presidency/ On Feb 5, 2008 12:33 AM, Peter Merle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As an outsider residing in South Africa I battle to understand the US voting system - Can any registered voter take part in the Democratic or Rep run-off elections or must you be a

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread archer
Wonder if any Snap-on tools are made in China? Gerry From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bought my son a band saw at Sears for Christmas - was disappointed as well to find the Made in China tag. BTW, we bought the smaller $99 band saw and it was not made as

Re: [MBZ] this is nice

2008-02-05 Thread Gary Thompson
There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Brian wroteGranny says her husband was always Democrat and the family has always been Democrat, so she's a Demo Sadly thats why many people vote democratic. People like Jews and blacks (sorry - I just cannot say African American with a straight face) have voted 90% democrat for 40 years and I

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
some people still think of Chevy and Ford being American cars and car companies - truth is all auto companies are so world diversified that they cannot be considered AMerican. look at DamlierChrysler for an example close to home - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
It's a political game - complaining about jobs going overseas because that;s the perception - everything you said is correct - but the politicans use it as a rallying point - Rememebr the saying - how do you know when a politician is lying? his lips are moving - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Everyone's cheap stuff is the same junk. Go look at Sears bottom end tool chests you'll understand. Their bottom end junk is cheap because they are competing for customers who shop in this price range. The same goes for anyone's bottom end computers. But get away from the bottom end products

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow

2008-02-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: Except for his we will be in Iraq for 100 years comment, I sort of like McCain. I don't agree with all of his positions but he is someone for whom I could vote. That's just honesty. We've been in Japan and Germany for over 60 years with no sign of letting up. OTOH,

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS

2008-02-05 Thread Allan Streib
Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just because something is made in China does not mean it's cheap and there is a huge difference in quality between Harbor Freight and Sears made in China tools. I have no doubt that the Chinese can manufacture quality goods, I think the line I've heard

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread LWB250
250, which was a gray market 123 chassis. I owned it and later sold it to Kleb. Dan --- Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kicking myself in the ass for not keeping the LWB. Crap!! What model LWB? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow - How does it work

2008-02-05 Thread LWB250
I beg to differ. Florida has closed primaries, meaning that only the parties who have candidates running can have voters with the same party affiliation vote. A couple of years ago we had a purely Democratic primary, because the Republicans only had one candidate. Dan --- Scott Ritchey

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread George Larribeau
My Moto Guzzi has less Japanese parts in it that my Harley Davidson. (at least when it was made Moto Guzzi still made their own forks) The Moto Guzzi's biggest weakness are parts of its electrical system, fortunately the starter and alternator were Bosch However the wiring and switches leave

[MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Is to make some of this. Do you think I could collect some feedstock from some New Orleans restaurants? --R *Chocolate fuelled BioTruck makes it to *Timbuktu on the worlds first Carbon Negative Expedition. Adventures Andy Pag (34) and John Grimshaw (39) have just returned from the

Re: [MBZ] Go Vote Tomorrow

2008-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond
Fiscal conservative? No... Did anybody else see his answer when asked about going to war? He said he'd have to consult his lawyers. I thought Ron Paul was going to leap out of his skin. Consult lawyers indeed... -Curt Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:42:49 -0600 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] this is nice

2008-02-05 Thread R A Bennell
Very much like my car. Mine is the 76 and the red is darker and it has the white MB Tex interior. I don't have the Becker radior or the power antenna. Otherwise pretty much the same. It even does not have the right side mirror which I finally got today and will post about separately. I really

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Friend of mine is into Harley's and I went to buy a few Screaming Eagle bits for his birthday. Noticed they were made in China and passed on them. Not that I'm a big fan of Harley's, but some things are just American icons, and I want to see Made in America on them. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008,

Re: [MBZ] A 2nd wing finally!

2008-02-05 Thread R A Bennell
I'll be the first to reply to my own message. Yes, I did try to get one from Kaleb but he didn't have any. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:55 AM To: mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ]

[MBZ] A 2nd wing finally!

2008-02-05 Thread R A Bennell
Finally ordered a right side mirror for my 76 300D and it arrived today. Looks good. Got it by searching online and connecting with European Automotive Group in Moultrie, Georgia. Nice fellow named Davey did what he said he would. Always nice to have a good experience with things like this.

Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Me too, it's some kind of encoding that GMail and/or Firefox and/or XP doesn't recognize. Can somebody figure out how to decode and repost the picture? I'd really like to see it. Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 4, 2008 4:42 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
Agree. My 2008 Japanese Subaru has 55% North American content. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:19 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza,not

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Scott Ritchey wrote: Agree. My 2008 Japanese Subaru has 55% North American content. What percentage is USA content? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

[MBZ] OT Tube testers

2008-02-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Who was interested in testing tubes? Not the intertubes, but old electronic valves. http://www.oobject.com/?cat=40submit=view+chart --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
I'd rather buy a car made in Mexico, or any other country, by an American car company. And why? I'm not being pro-American just to be American. Manufacturing costs are just a part of the picture. When you buy a Honda or Toyota assembled in this country, where are the profits going? Who's

Re: [MBZ] OT Tube testers

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
I have a couple of tube testers and about 700 tubes. None for sale - I restore old radios as a hobby. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/5/08 1:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: [MBZ] OT Tube

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Scott Ritchey
Not sure and don't know how to find out. I do know that they are assembled in Indiana and the 55% number was on the window sticker. The motor and trans are from Japan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: [MBZ] 600 SWB vacuum diagram?

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Hi Larry, thanks for your offer. I'll have to look around for a reader that makes copies. You know, I had a huge reader, with a built in photocopier which I bought just to read all my Porsche manuals which are on micro. I printed them all up, and then got rid of the reader. I couldn't give it

Re: [MBZ] OT Tube testers

2008-02-05 Thread George Larribeau
buried in that link is this link with a picture of a Tektronix 570 Tube sweeper . vey cool thing ... http://www.akh.se/tubes/tubetest.htm George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, February

Re: [MBZ] 600 SWB vacuum diagram?

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Hi Ed - I did the same thing - gave away my reader after buying it at a used Office Supply store for $50. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
Yeah, agreed. like baseball hats with American flags on them. -- Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . -

Re: [MBZ] 600 SWB vacuum diagram?

2008-02-05 Thread R A Bennell
Could cost you by the page but you might try a library. My wife works in a university library and I believe they have things like old newspapers and periodicals on fiche and reels that people use for research. They also have the readers that will make prints for about the cost of a photocopy if

Re: [MBZ] OT Tube testers

2008-02-05 Thread Jeff Zedic
That was me looking for a tube tester. I have a tube cd player and pre-amp and lots of tubes left over from my tube monoblocks. I wanted a tester so I could match tubes. Randy in Manitobe has sent me some info on testers. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 600 SWB vacuum diagram?

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Thanks Randy, I'll give our local branch a ring. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could cost you by the page but you might try a library. My wife works in a university library and I believe they have things like old newspapers and periodicals on fiche and reels

[MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Zoltan Finks
Just watched pistons being made on Discovery Channel's How It's Made. Was surprised how rudimentary the operation seemed. Started with a 10' long aluminum rod of about 2 1/2 or 3 inch diameter. After heating it up a lot, it went into a (2000 ton?) punch press. The parts that surprised me were

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
I saw the same show - they are more precise than you'd think from the video. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/5/08 3:58 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Cleaned off the burs with a pocket knife? Those pistons must have been heading for a Ferrari. hee hee. I read an article once on how early Testarossa's, not the early early ones, the flat 12s, had beautifully machined cranks, but then, they often wouldn't bother to clean off the metal shaving

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread LWB250
Even back in the time when everyone referred to it as American Iron many of the subassemblies, such as carbs, were made offshore. I always chuckled when I heard someone make that comment. For a couple of years I had an end flap from an H-D carb box that had very tiny discreet lettering that

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Almost as funny as when Canadians say, I like to buy domestic cars. There is no such animal here. lol Well, not for about 80 years or so anyway. :-) Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even back in the time when everyone referred to it as American Iron many of the

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread RELNGSON
Last I heard, the price of the heater control panel is about ten grand. RLE ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300 02548) ___

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
Looks like we need to pool pur resources tallent manufacture replacement 600 parts... Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/5/08 4:29 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices Last I heard, the price of the

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Rich Thomas
Watch that movie The World's Fastest Indian (a true story about that guy) and in it he makes some pistons for his Indian motorcycle by melting down a bunch of aluminum scrap and pouring it in a mold he made (in his shed). I don't remember them showing him machining it down, but it was kinda

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 5, 2008 1:44 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watch that movie The World's Fastest Indian (a true story about that guy) and in it he makes some pistons for his Indian motorcycle by melting down a bunch of aluminum scrap and pouring it in a mold he made (in his shed). I don't

[MBZ] 1983 300TD in Jax

2008-02-05 Thread Bill
Manfred - Craigslist has a 1983 300TD for sale. Pics show some rust, but no idea how much. $1,200. I have not seen it. http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/car/560728015.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Zoltan Finks
This reminds me: In the program they said that every tenth piston was pulled out and water poured on it so they could check for imperfections. I wonder if these pistons are thrown back in the mix for use? Or does it not adversely affect them? Brian On Feb 5, 2008 1:58 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread E M
yeah, one door latch is about $1800 and a new water pump is $5000. There are rebuild kits, for $500. Sounds like a bargooon. Those are service items, imagine the price of parts that seldom need attention. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I heard, the

[MBZ] S-Class In Okie-land

2008-02-05 Thread Rick Knoble
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/563967303.html This guy flunked English. No punctuation. At least it is all in caps. 116? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] S-Class In Okie-land

2008-02-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
Wonder if he would be willing to just sell the rims. sic On Feb 5, 2008 4:32 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/car/563967303.html This guy flunked English. No punctuation. At least it is all in caps. 116? Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 5, 2008 2:29 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, one door latch is about $1800 and a new water pump is $5000. There are rebuild kits, for $500. Sounds like a bargooon. Those are service items, imagine the price of parts that seldom need attention. And at what point does the

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread E M
I was doing some reading on the 6.9. Seems Corker make the proper 15 tired for the 6.9 for about $400 a piece. It's not related, but I wonder where one goes to get a set of replacement tires for an old Lamborghini LM002? They made two versions in the day, one better suited for road and light

Re: [MBZ] S-Class In Okie-land

2008-02-05 Thread Rick Knoble
This guy flunked English. No punctuation. At least it is all in caps. I meant ISN'T in CAPS. Maybe I flunked English... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For

Re: [MBZ] S-Class In Okie-land

2008-02-05 Thread Wonko the Sane
I am thinking more stream of consciousness. On Feb 5, 2008 4:40 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy flunked English. No punctuation. At least it is all in caps. I meant ISN'T in CAPS. Maybe I flunked English... Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 5, 2008 2:37 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not related, but I wonder where one goes to get a set of replacement tires for an old Lamborghini LM002? They made two versions in the day, one better suited for road and light off road, and more more aggressive for real off road.

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 5, 2008 2:43 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 5, 2008 2:37 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not related, but I wonder where one goes to get a set of replacement tires for an old Lamborghini LM002? They made two versions in the day, one better suited for road

Re: [MBZ] Engine Swap Question

2008-02-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
convincing people a KN is an improvement over all other intake filters. If it were only true. I fell for the hype and bought one for my parents' '99 Suburban and '01 PT Cruiser, but found out later how damaging they can be by letting huge amounts of dirt into the engine. The Cruiser had 14Kmi

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread Kevin Kraly
250, which was a gray market 123 chassis. I saw a 1984 300D LWB limo on some CL site in California. They were asking $13K for it with 85K original miles on it (pretty good if it's true). Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well what do you think, reckon they can scrap 10% of production and be profitable? Hendrik Zoltan Finks wrote: This reminds me: In the program they said that every tenth piston was pulled out and water poured on it so they could check for imperfections. I wonder if these pistons are thrown

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread E M
They're a funny size, huge and at the time in the early 80s, were about $3500 each. NOS is great for trim bits and fenders, but NOS tires are junk unless the car is going under glass, and then, what would be the point of owning it. As for shows, guess it depends on the level of competition. I

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Not a total loss, I bet the scrap 10% ends up back in the smelter. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well what do you think, reckon they can scrap 10% of production and be profitable? Hendrik Zoltan Finks wrote: This reminds me: In the program they said that

Re: [MBZ] OT, job eliminated -MB business

2008-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you are on my list!! Bill Ringgold wrote: .. And my 126 seat botto springs - and under door light. No big hurry, but I am ready to install them. BillR -Original Message- From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/4/08 9:13 PM

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Once the fuel pump is put on it will. Kevin Kraly wrote: its sitting on my trailer. Does it run and drive? My sister's inlaws (the same ones I bought the '78 300CD from) had a 1976 450SLC. I got to ride in it once before FIL died. It seemed powerful though it had a fuel injection

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
123, its on the front page of okiebenz.com Kevin Kraly wrote: kicking myself in the ass for not keeping the LWB. Crap!! What model LWB? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list

Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS (was: pizza, not mercedes)

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Parts for HD are made all over the world, some of the solid disc wheels used (or still could be) to be made a few K's down the road from where I live. This is part of globalisation, which is good in the sense that it gives people all over the world employment opportunities. I know some of you

Re: [MBZ] OT hard to get parts.

2008-02-05 Thread E M
I bet it could hardly make it up the driveway into the garage with a 500E powertrain in it. lol Even lambo tried to upgrade the engine in later models with a version of its larger marine V12, but the added weight took away any advantages the increased HP provided. Eddie Van Halen still keeps one

Re: [MBZ] A 2nd wing finally!

2008-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Was it new or used? How much? Those are rare. R A Bennell wrote: Finally ordered a right side mirror for my 76 300D and it arrived today. Looks good. Got it by searching online and connecting with European Automotive Group in Moultrie, Georgia. Nice fellow named Davey did what he said he

Re: [MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
How the heck can that be carbon negative, to me carbon negative means removing carbon from the air. Perhaps the greenies are no longer satisfied with the term 'carbon neutral', although my understanding is that the combustion cycle will always produce some carbon no matter what the fuel used.

Re: [MBZ] A 2nd wing finally!

2008-02-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Right side mirrors for the W115 chassis are rare -- only 74-76 had them, and they seem to have been an option not all that many buyers got. We've been looking for some time for my brother's 75 300D. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] another addition

2008-02-05 Thread LWB250
Not really, unless it was a diesel. Most of these 123 LWB cars came over from western Europe after seeing service as taxis. AS a result, nearly every one I ever saw while searching for the former Klebmobile was ratted out or near the end of it's useful life. Because these are fairly rare (mine

Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
I seem to remember Kaleb asking that politics not be discussed. There is a fair bit of provocative stuff in this post and I'm sure the same could be said for the other side. Hendrik LarryT wrote: Brian wroteGranny says her husband was always Democrat and the family has always been Democrat,

Re: [MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread E M
I read an article, written back in the 80s I think, that said in the UK, the energy used to manufacture a new car was equal to driving the then average new car about 50,000 miles, if my memory serves me. It was from an old car mag, and they were trying to make the point of how restoring an old

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Peter Frederick
They go back to recycle if defective, along with all the scrap and turnings. I believe the pistons in diesel engines are investment cast rather than forged so that the oil passages can be made directly rather than machined (the turbos have oil cooled pistons). Makes them a bit pricey,

Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yes but the cost and time involved in recycling 10% would still need to be carried. It would mean 6 minutes out of every hour is lost. I could understand doing that to high performance pistons, especially racing pistons where failure is a big no no. It's like testing every tenth car that comes

Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-02-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, that is true, lets tone it back a bit Hendrik Fay wrote: I seem to remember Kaleb asking that politics not be discussed. There is a fair bit of provocative stuff in this post and I'm sure the same could be said for the other side. Hendrik LarryT wrote: Brian wroteGranny says her

[MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread wilton strickland
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[MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread wilton strickland
Let's try it again with this jpg. Wilton - Original Message - From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 10:58 AM Subject: OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc. Not only has my tremor diminished enough that I can

Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Fay wrote: How the heck can that be carbon negative, to me carbon negative means removing carbon from the air. I think their point was that delivering a bio refinery is supposed to be carbon negative because the future bio production offsets dino oil consumption. However, they

Re: [MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread E M
Is air quality due to burning oil in Timbuktu a concern these days? If anyone wants to make the air more breathable, send the poor buggers some dust masks to keep the desert sand out of their lungs. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Fay wrote: How the

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Dat Foosball is Over

2008-02-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
It's dictated by the marketplace, Gary. On Feb 5, 2008 9:40 AM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't get me wrong. i mean, i'm big on ethnic stereotyping. i just find it odd how some groups are absolutely off limits while others can be freely denigrated at the super bowl. On Feb 4,

Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished NOW SEARS

2008-02-05 Thread andrew strasfogel
If it's that bad why not move? On Feb 5, 2008 9:46 AM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch wrote:They figure this out long before they figure out that the people have to pay for it sometime Sadly, even though some people are shouting this loudly, it is met with deaf ears -- The govt

Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment

2008-02-05 Thread E M
oh stop complaining, I did an oil change 2 weeks ago with a foot of snow on the ground, and I did it from the bottom.. I'm still picking the road salt out of my ears. hee hee. Ed 300E On 05/02/2008, Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent all afternoon doing a valve adjustment on my '84

Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] Are Mercedes pistons more precise than this?

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
I caught Worlds Fastest Indian on On Demand a couple of weeks ago - one of the 1st freebies I watched. I know it wasn;t a huge box office success but it was an amazing movie about an amazing man - guy in his 60s or 70s had a 30s Indian he hot-rodded and took to the Salt FLats in the 50s to

Re: [MBZ] My next activity

2008-02-05 Thread Hendrik Fay
Does this mean that when I drive to the parts store or wreckers to get a part to keep my second hand car on the road (instead of buying a newy) I am carbon negative? Hendrik who at this very moment is producing .65 kg of greenhouse gases/hour (not counting what is coming out my rear end) but

Re: [MBZ] 600 parts prices

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
The factory maintains wood samples from each 600 made - so if a piece of wood is damaged it can be recreated perfectly. I used to get a MB magazine (free BTW) and one featured the 600. It was/is an awesome machine - would love to have one if I win a lottery so I can maintain it. It told how

Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished NOW SEARS

2008-02-05 Thread LarryT
It's worse in other places. altho we seem to be racing to catch up - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs .

Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil changes, etc.

2008-02-05 Thread Tom Hargrave
it, yet. Here it is again. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: wiltclock3.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 91633 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080205 /a4785b88/attachment.jpg

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