It seems than at Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:15:14 -0600, R wrote:
I have not had to worry about it so don't know for sure, but
someone told me that a scratch on the top of the DVD is just
as bad or worse than a scratch on the bottom. Any comments or
suggestions on how to fix the top if that is true?
It seems than at Tue, 4 Mar 2008 17:21:38 -0800 (PST), Curt
wrote:
Stupid corn lobby...
Let's not stop there. What about the soyo-biodiesel board...
-- Philip
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From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's funny, my brother the geologist couldn't get a job doing oil
exploration -- very little more to be found, it seems. I don't know
where this guy gets his data, but none of the major oil companies has
more proven reserve oil now than it did a
I don't know how it works in merica but over here in God's own land we
have a two tier system, it is compulsory to have third party bodily
injury insurance which comes with the car rego. Seems to be going up
every time I have to hand over an arm and a leg. The there is vehicle
insurance which
The bad news is that my ISP blocks outgoing email that doesn't
originate on their network, so I have to log off the EVDO and
log on to dial-up to send email.
Mitch.
If you register a domain with Godaddy.com, you get one email
address for free. It includes an SMTP server that is listening
on
Try a different SMTP port...I have to use 1025 or 587. Try Googling your email
provider and SMTP port.
Luther
On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:02:15 -0600, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For those of us who don't like long range dial-up (26.4k max for me), can't
get DSL or cable, and are scared
The amount of oil reserves are totally driven by price. At $5/gal there's
oil that can be extracted and a profit made. At $10/gal there's a LOT more
that can be extracted and a profit made. No one is going to do this stuff
for free as you all know.
So when oil is $1/gal the world reserves
At some point extracting oil from coal shale becomes viable IIRC. Don;t
know what the $$ figure is but we may be getting close to it. And of
course, once the production facilities come on line the price may come down.
Also, we have tons of coal yet to be mined which could provide energy for
Gee whiz did nobody see the satire there? I took accident statistics and turned
it into DD for cryin out loud...
Gary Gygax really did die just the other day, my whole post was an attempt at
an homage to the man who popularized dice with sides numbering other than 6...
-Curt
Date: Tue, 4 Mar
Umm, yeah, S10 trucks haven't been made for a few years, demand seems low
because they're orphaned... I like 'em though.
Even with diesel at $3.79 I'll take my 36-38mpg 190D over most anything...
A guy at work was thinking of a diesel Jetta, I took him for a ride in the 190D
and he's now very
Ahh right forcing the worst biodiesel feed stock down out throats...
If I lived closer to my farm I'd plant it full of rapeseed and make my own fuel
with 1950's era equipment.
I'd even take a shot a distilling ethanol out of tree bark or moose poop or
whatever.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008
True - they do vary your rates by how many miles you average, so you/d
think they could also factor in what you drive.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't they have greater losses with more severe injuries? The medical
liability part of the insurance?
Donald Snook mentioned a dealer who had several VW diesels on his lot. I
emailed him and he finally replied saying that he had sold all but one; a
2001 diesel Beetle.
Gerry
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The new
Luther wrote:
Try a different SMTP port...I have to use 1025 or 587. Try Googling your
email provider and SMTP port.
I don't think that will get me around an intentional block.
I'll probably register a domain for my EA firm and run all my outgoing email
through that SMTP.
Dave H. wrote: IMPRESSIVE! That's a direct hit. You may go past Start and
collect $200.00
Does that mean my suggestion with the battery cable spacer was the problem? If
so, I am glad I could help.
I knew all that GM knowledge would pay off - even if Kaleb calls me a GM lover
Donald H.
The Pertronix igniter i have used in my 280s /108. has performed
flawlessy over a period of ten years .
i believe the Pertronix dealer Retro Rockets carried the Igniter units
for the V-8300SEL /109 .
I think it was $ 89 + shipping.
mak
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Curt wrote:
Technically true and I might add quite selfish. Don's driving a larger vehicle
makes him more likely to KILL someone in the event of a crash. Ever think of it
that way?
Boy you are right you are in a mood. I did not think of it that way.
Honestly, the reason I bought the
Mitch Haley wrote:
The bad news is that my ISP blocks outgoing email that doesn't
originate on their network, so I have to log off the EVDO and log
on to dial-up to send email.
You just need to find a different SMTP server. Does Alltel give you an
email address? If so you could use the
I don't know how it works in merica but over here in God's own land we
have a two tier system, it is compulsory to have third party bodily
injury insurance which comes with the car rego.
So you have the same stupid system we do where you are punished
for owning more than one vehicle per
Peter wrote: Remember, big SUV's have the WORST injury/fatality record for
occupants of any vehicle on the road. They are, and always have been, the
least safe one to drive.
I don't have any evidence to dispute this, but I thought small SUV's were the
worst at rolling over and being unsafe.
Liability and medical are the same, reguardless of car, comprehensive
coverage is higher for more valuable vehicles, and for the normal
driver (few or no caused accidents, good record) the rate will be set
by the pool cost, not the vehicle. Sadly, the worst drivers are
subsidized by the
Ok Don wrote: Are you still wondering why you sold the '90 300D??? I'm sure
glad you did!!!
Absolutely! I wish I had it back. But, I would be tired of it by now and
would be looking for greener grass in another car.
Did you say you got 29 in town? Sheesh! I never got anywhere near that in
Jim wrote:
They're paying out (and thus charging) on LOSS, not injury/fatality. The MB's
cost more to replace. And for every careful car-caring driver of same there's
an invulnerable dickhead to balance him out.
Since you are talking about drivers of big SUVs, I hope you aren't referring to
Gerry wrote: Donald Snook mentioned a dealer who had several VW diesels on
his lot. I emailed him and he finally replied saying that he had sold all but
one; a 2001 diesel Beetle.
That sucks, he must have sold them fast. I bet they go pretty quickly. I guess
you are not interested in the
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The bigger they are, the higher they are, and they ALL roll over.
Minivans, too, can't tell you how many I've seen upside-down.
Worst part with the SUVs is no requirement for rollover protection
til the early '00s, I think, meaning that big Chevy Suburban will be
squashed flat to the
Diesel Beetle is a great little car, same performance as the gasser
with 30% better milage. However, don't try to parallel park one --
my mechanic friend hated them, said you cannot see ANY portion of the
exterior, they were a huge pain to get in and out of the shop without
damage.
Peter
No, not enough room for all the stuff I carry around. Thanks for the ref,
though. Better luck next time. (-:]
Gerry
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Gerry wrote: Donald Snook mentioned a dealer who had several VW diesels
Why not just use gmail?
Zedic
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Almost hate to get into it - and I do not drive while eating or talking on
the phone and rarely adjust the radio [NPR/PRI/etc all the time] except to
change disks on audio books, and my youngest is 25 - but cell phone use is
rated down the list of causes of accidents. Don't lay as much blame
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I know that I am not extremely well versed in all aspects of Mercedes
culture, and in fact, there are a good many vehicles that could be
considered within the umbrella for
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/rvs/595032264.html
He didn't even bother to stick the three-pointed star on the front.
Alex
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Manfred - I am planning to take a trip to Atlanta and Yorktown early next
month. What does you schedule look like for the next week or so?
Thanks - Bill
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But my point was that letters do not need to fly accross the country over
night. Plan ahead and send it a week
earlier or live without it for another week. Many times, the information has
been faxed or emailed anyway and the
original letter is just to pad the file. I understand to some extent
It looks like it was rode hard and put away muddy.
--R
Ed Booher wrote:
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/rvs/595032264.html
I know that I am not extremely well versed in all aspects of Mercedes
culture, and
My 300D is a 115 so non turbo. My understanding is that the turbo motors
actually do better on fuel. I'm not really
complaining. It does about 29 mpg on the Imp Gallon on the highway and low 20's
around town. About what I expected.
As I said, I don't really know how well it does if I drive
No doubt that taxes are a big part of higher fuel prices in Canada. In the late
60's I was not in Winnipeg either
and we paid a bit of a premium because of where we were. The price would have
been cheaper in the cities.
Randy
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Jeff Zedic wrote:
Why not just use gmail?
I like having my own storage on my hard drive.
I've got the problem solved, at least for now. I can send through
the SMTP server at mail.alltel.net.
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I didn't mean for anybody to take that post so seriously but...
Randy did say your survival would be better in a big SUV. If thats true then
the inverse probably is also, all things considered if you hit a smaller
vehicle you're more likely to hurt people.
That isn't to say that I think we
Heavens have you looked at an Explorer lately? They're HUGE!
I blame it on the Durango. The Durango came out and as a mid-size was larger
than the Explorer so that had to grow to match.
The Durango then had to grow to beat the Explorer and the Explorer grew again...
I don't consider the Tacoma
Yeah I know, I said 20% more hp... 240D is about 72hp, IIRC yours would be
about 90hp...
The best tank ever in my '83 240D was 32mpg, average was more like 28.
I'd like to find another one like it (240D, 4spd manual) but with manual
windows, manual sunroof, no A/C, for cheap (like $1500) for
A lot of oil companies take heat for the prices of oil, so often, you see
signs posted on the pumps, showing the breakdown of just how much profit
goes in the pocket of the company, after the gov has their hand in it.
Sure, the companies are making millions as they sell billions of litres, but
Randy,
I don't know about Manitoba but in Ontario you'll see a sticker on the
pump that tells you the tax per litre. Last time I looked it was 25.4
cents per.
Zedic
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Hey, if I googled before asking any question I would have no excuse to post
anything.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas
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He knows but just doesn't want to admit it.
--R
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
maybe you should google it
andrew strasfogel wrote:
My 1971 3.5 sedan had breakerless ignition. It started as quickly as
flipping on a light switch and ran like a top. I think it was a Crane
system.
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:28 AM, mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Pertronix igniter i have used in my 280s /108. has performed
flawlessy over
Some of the pumps used to have a sticker but I think it was the oil company
trying to show what their share was. I
have not seen any of those stickers lately either here or in Ontario.
Randy
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Sent:
I think the book says my 300D should make 77 HP. It will certainly go faster. I
just feel like I am abusing it when
I get over about 70 MPH. I have not driven one of the manual 240D cars but I am
relatively happy with my AT. I
drive it mostly in the City and so the AT is nice. I also like my AC,
The problem was getting enough radiator surface to condense the used steam.
As I recall, there were radiators all over the car. Imagine the hazard in a
collision.
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 19:34
Exactly! Sell me a set of plates that can be moved from car to car and I will
keep enough different ones around so
that I can haul stuff when needed and get good economy when I don't have to be
utilitarian. Paying the insurance on
each makes me keep fewer vehicles on the road but makes me drive
I've always been told a Mercedes diesel (in good condition) can be
driven with the throttle to the floor all day long and it will just
cruise along.
Allan
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:44:10 -0600, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I think the book says my 300D should make 77 HP. It will certainly go
It is in california, but my insurance guy also has a fleet, so he's quite
understanding and willing to play games with rolling things around as needed.
The problem is the government, who doesn't follow its own procedures that it
documented and gives out at the DMV. Mailing the form doesn't always
Allan,
That was the mantra of Marshall Booth... Drive it like you
stole it!
Or one of the mantra Change all the fuses every 10 years
whether they need it or not! was another
Take care,
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Mar 5, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
I've always been told a
Won't hurt them at all. I used to run my NA Mercedes diesels on the
interstate with the pedal pressed all the way to the floor.
With the 1972 220D, wide open translated into 75 MPH on flat spots down
hill and 40 MPH up some hills.
The two 1975 240D's would do a little better up hill but the top
The real hazard was the boiler. It could go boom if you weren't careful.
Most steam cars of the day did not bother condensing the steam. They would
just vent the steam after the engine.
This meant that you had to fill up with gasoline or coal oil (kerosene) and
water.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
It seems than at Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:06:58 -0500, Mitch wrote:
Jeff Zedic wrote:
Why not just use gmail?
I like having my own storage on my hard drive.
I've got the problem solved, at least for now. I can send
through the SMTP server at mail.alltel.net.
A gmail address does not
Grossly inefficient, they boiled water into steam, expanded it once
and discharged the rest.
Their wonderfulness is some what like a 50 year old schoolboy's crush.
Up close it's not so pleasant.
That's why Modern steam trains lost out to diesel electrics.
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
2007
Curt wrote: Which reminds me, have you ever been in a w201? Sure the backseat
is a waste of time but if I push the seat all the way back I can't push the
clutch all the way down. Sure I'm 6' but I do like my legroom.
I can fit in a 201, but not comfortably for very long. I have enough legroom,
Peter T. Arnold wrote:
That's why Modern steam trains lost out to diesel electrics.
I've said it before, but I would really love to see a truly modern steam
engine. Too bad nobody wants to pony up money to research for the sake
of research.
John
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OK, responding to about 3 replies here, but I am certain that I
remember reading somewhere that one ought not to
really abuse the old MB diesels. I know there is the Italian tuneup
idea where one works the car hard on an uphill
grade to burn off the excess
I was thinking of doing that too but haven't seen an email proggie I
like enough to actually use.
Zedic
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'Thought my '80 240D had 67 hp and my '81 300D had 84 hp; ~17 hp per cyl.
Wilton
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OK, responding to about 3 replies here, but I am certain that I remember
reading somewhere that one ought not to
really abuse the old MB diesels. I know there is the Italian tuneup idea where
one works the car hard on an uphill
grade to burn off the excess carbon but I thought the other view
Jeff Zedic wrote:
I was thinking of doing that too but haven't seen an email proggie I
like enough to actually use.
Thunderbird?
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Speaking of steam ...
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2006/09/another_steam_bike.html
George Larribeau
Dallas Texas
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
I don't think thats true, or at least I hope thats not true. With an AT that'd
make your car sloow.
The only saving grace on a 240D is slightly better fuel economy than a 300D. If
a n/a 300D wasn't a bit faster it'd be a total waste.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 15:44:10 -0600
From: R
I think the book says my 300D should make 77 HP. It will
certainly go faster. I just feel like I am abusing it when I
get over about 70 MPH. I have not driven one of the manual
240D cars but I am relatively happy with my AT. I drive it
mostly in the City and so the AT is nice. I also like my
The NA 240D 300D have different gear ratios different top end speeds.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 4:54 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re:
That's what I found, when I am at a comfortable distance from the
steering wheel my legs are cramped and when I am at a comfortable
position for my legs I am too far away from the steering wheel. Also
there is not much headroom unless you have the low seat option, which
mine has but even just
Most don't realize that top speed is limited to the top engine
RPM - 5000 RPM, set with an adjustment on the IP during
tune-up. I'd advise not trying to increase the top RPM. Torque
drops off sharply past 5K, plus you can damage the engine.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
What?
At 5000 RPM, with a
I guess that I am used to it as it does not really seem slow to me. However, I
admit that I am aware of its
limitations and therefore sort of plan ahead I guess. Little girls in Neons run
away from me at stop lights but
once I am moving, I keep up fairly well. I wouldn't mind more power I
Mercedes did not produce a turbo with a 5 or 4 speed because the turbo would
spin down during shifts.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:03 PM
To:
Exactly the opposite, Marshall always said more cars were damaged by being
driven lightly...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:07:49 -0600
From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RE OT: The World Has Plenty of Oil
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Sounds about right, the '83 240D had a bit more though, 72hp I'm reasonably
sure.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:28:42 -0500
From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] OT - The world - plenty of oil
To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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I don't know what a toresen diff is...
If we're really dreaming I'd like a showroom 116 with a diesel fired block
heater.
Heck I'd even take a w123 with a diesel fired block heater, I love the idea of
a diesel fired block heater...
When I looked into it last I figured about $1000 to do it
It is really difficult to get a good read on things. Statistics are used to
prove whatever the people manipulating
them want you to believe. For example, the older Toyota 4Runners were never
rated very well because their record
wasn't very good with accidents - lots of injuries. However, my
On Mar 5, 2008, at 3:33 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
them want you to believe. For example, the older Toyota 4Runners
were never rated very well because their record
wasn't very good with accidents - lots of injuries. However, my
understanding is that they tended to be driven by
people much
I used to use that but never really liked itsame with Eudora.I
may try some of these here new-fangled Linux apps..damn that good
software is addictive!
Zedic
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Doesn't your 124 TE have telescoping steering? My 87 124.193 did.
ZEdic
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I think the book says my 300D should make 77HP. It will certainly go
faster
My '78 300D also was rated at 77HP. It was governed at 4400 rpm which equated
to 99MPH . I once ran it flat out (which took a while) between Williams Lake
and Prince George BC and it finally indicated just over
I don't think thats true, or at least I hope thats not true. With an AT
that'd make your car sloow.
The only saving grace on a 240D is slightly better fuel economy than a 300D.
If a n/a 300D wasn't a bit faster it'd be a total waste.
It's more than a bit faster. An NA 300D is
I still wonder what Marshall was doing when he put a rod through the block. He
never answered when I asked him.
Gerry
From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Allan,
That was the mantra of Marshall Booth... Drive it like you
stole it!
For some reason, some OM601s do that.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 07:44:44PM -0500, archer wrote:
I still wonder what Marshall was doing when he put a rod through the block.
He never answered when I asked him.
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I used to use that but never really liked itsame with Eudora.I
may try some of these here new-fangled Linux apps..damn that good
software is addictive!
Would you believe I'm running Nutscrape 4.8 for email? (do my browsing in
Firefox)
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:42:48 -0600 Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I used to use that but never really liked itsame with Eudora.I
may try some of these here new-fangled Linux apps..damn that good
software is addictive!
I use Sylpheed. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
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http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/596790466.html
It's been wrecked in the front, comes with most of the parts to fix. How
could you resist for $900!?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
PS. I think I'll pass this one on to my Dad who's been wanting a
convertible to fix up,
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torsen differential
What's that?
Craig
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It's been wrecked in the front, comes with most of the parts to fix.
How
could you resist for $900!?
Oh, it's easy. She Who Must Be Annoyed is on the warpath again,
and we've already got one torn-apart 380SL sitting around here!
(Has
I still wonder what Marshall was doing when he put a rod through the
block. He never answered when I asked him.
For some reason, some OM601s do that.
The 601 in the donor car in the woods has a big hole
in the side of #1.
So here I am wondering how it would run if you took out
its
For example, the older Toyota 4Runners were never rated very well...
Exactly! It's less the car than the type that is attracted
to the car. I had a buddy with an early 4Runner, and he dropped
it upside down on its roof in a river. On a rock it turns out,
so that only their hair got wet.
--
With the 1972 220D, wide open translated into 75 MPH on flat spots
down
hill and 40 MPH up some hills.
Automatic? My 1972 200D (stick) will go 85 with alacrity.
But it's definitely out of breath at that point. I've never
yet met the hill that can slow it down, however, provided
you can hit
once the Chicken Wagon, which is annoying
her greatly right now, is put away again
What's the matter with it?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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What's the matter with it [Chicken Wagon]?
No CD player. Badly cracked windshield. Kinda
loose steering. Damaged seat belt. Extremely
ugly paint. (However it's able to go anywhere,
anytime, as mechanically it is sound.)
She hates the iPod/Discman jacks I put on the
front of the Becker, and
Here's a question I'm sure someone could answer or at least point me in the
right direction. This wonderful 300sD of mine has been shifting abnormally
since I've owned the car. The 1-2 shift doesn't happen until about 2200RPM
but will wait until 3500 RPM at 90% throttle or better. When
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
She hates the iPod/Discman jacks I put on the
front of the Becker, and to my knowledge has never
used them.
Bummer, I thought that was a really elegant hack you did on those!
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo
No CD player.
Also true of my SD, and I'm thinking about changing that. Front and rear
glass on the SD is fine. Steering was much better after the lower right
Ball Joint was fixed. I've got a seat belt buckle in the back that's not
working properly, so I'm going to switch it (driver's rear
Kevin,
I think you answered your own question Check the vacuum
lines for leaks as well as at the shift modulator!
Hope this helps...
Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Mar 5, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote:
Here's a question I'm sure someone could answer or at least point
me in the
right
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:31 PM, Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/596790466.html
It's been wrecked in the front, comes with most of the parts to fix. How
could you resist for $900!?
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Thanks for all the replies. So, for the $100ish it will cost, the Pertronix
ignition seems like a lot of bang for the buck. Is there anything else I
ought to do to the distributor while I'm in there... I vaguely remember
something about an oil ring on the distributor shaft, or is that really
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/587926303.html
Now this is interesting. Must be a 123, although the crummy
wide-angle photos made me think it was a 116 at first. Euro bumpers
and lights, stick shift, and if you look close it has manual climate
control!
You were right the first time,
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