Re: [MBZ] MBUSA Shooting Me Down

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
I haven't been in a showroom for some time but last time I looked I was shocked at the material used on the interior. Very bland. They just looked like a fancy Toyota/et al. Hendrik E M wrote: Yes, I believe the current C and S class models are proving to be very reliable. There is a

Re: [MBZ] taster, huh.

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
laughed so hard I almost wet myself.. Oh oh. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/a23833bc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on, just don't get hypothermia

2008-12-29 Thread Bill R
Many, but if you take the group who are turned out after stabilization at an ER, probably a lot less than die from lack of it. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008

Re: [MBZ] Buying freeze is back on, just don't get hypothermia - medical mistakes

2008-12-29 Thread Bill R
There are deaths from MD error, but I suspect the number [no matter what it is] is far exceeded by the number who die from another infection or disease contracted while in the hospital. My wife missed four months of work due to an infection she got during surgery. Possibly the surgeons fault,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Accel Pedal/Part??

2008-12-29 Thread Bill R
Is that break petal near the brake pedal? Most people break more stuff with the accelerator. BillR, who also types faster than his internal spell checker. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly Sent: Sunday,

Re: [MBZ] First Time Stranded...Ever

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
A sommelier security guard! --R Hendrik Fay wrote: What? No machine gun or a least a high caliber hand gun, must be that financial crisis thingy. That's the problem, you give a jerk a uniform and weapon and you end up with a bigger jerk. These people should really do a course on people

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Accel Pedal/Part??

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
No he did not loose the break petal, but the accel pedal came lose. --R Bill R wrote: Is that break petal near the brake pedal? Most people break more stuff with the accelerator. BillR, who also types faster than his internal spell checker. -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] OT, Computer died

2008-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: I downloaded a MD5 checksum program, the iso is fine. I'll try burning another copy. Works now, but I ran out of time to get it going, so I'm stuck with Vista for the next three days, then I'll play with Mepis and hopefully the XP install that a lister is sending me on New

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] OT, Computer died

2008-12-29 Thread Curt Raymond
how to run the checksum on the iso. Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/f3d72e7b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Gary Hurst
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Re: [MBZ] International

2008-12-29 Thread Mountain Man
RLE wrote: An officially named airport in which the name includes International means Customs is available. Not that an agent is there, but that one will come there if called. For a fee. That designation was on the charts for that field probably 25 years ago. Maybe the name didn't mean the

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: he said he would not have given the banks a penny of bailout money. I believe that that program is operating correctly and successfully - if I am to believe the news stories. Along with anyone here, we have heard for months that the money is going to scoundrels who squandered their

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
The Domino's Pizza franchise I worked for had a mid-80's Escort and it was a pretty durable car -- driven aggressively by many different drivers and it held up well (much more so than the Subaru they also had). Allan -- 1983 300D Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com said: Like the Escort? Come

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Accel Pedal/Part??

2008-12-29 Thread Wilton Strickland
--pedal came lose? 'Wonder if he found it yet? ; Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD Accel Pedal/Part?? No he

[MBZ] Next Benz For Lt. Don

2008-12-29 Thread Rick Knoble
Or maybe his bride, Deb. http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/972123686.html Seems like a good deal. Too bad Kaleb is on a buying freeze. Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] O.T. Hey Wonko...What's Not Eating Anything With Lungs Called?

2008-12-29 Thread Robert Rentfro
What was that called? Sounds like something I may have to follow since super-fly lesbian gut doctor is making my diet so restrictive. Bob R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229

[MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Robert Rentfro
with the shop that deals with Mercedes exclusively. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. Bob R. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/e5f7ad05/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:29:27 -0700 Robert Rentfro rrent...@cox.net wrote: Took a big rock to the E320 windshield yesterday. Right in line of sight, of course. Started cracking this morning. Drove over to the car wash where the windshield guys lurk and I am set up to get it replaced with the

[MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread R A Bennell
A 92 E320 advertised locally here with low miles. Don't think price is cheap but it sounds nice in the ad. Might go have a look. What goes wrong with these??? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from anindustryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
car till the late 80's! Ford was also building great, reliable cars by then. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/a8 a0939e

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from anindustryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread E M
this doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. Bob R. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/e5f7ad05/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hey Wonko...What's Not Eating Anything With Lungs Called?

2008-12-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
have to follow since super-fly lesbian gut doctor is making my diet so restrictive. Bob R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/08fd9acd/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] Next Benz For Lt. Don

2008-12-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
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Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hey Wonko...What's Not Eating Anything With LungsCalled?

2008-12-29 Thread Robert Rentfro
was that called? Sounds like something I may have to follow since super-fly lesbian gut doctor is making my diet so restrictive. Bob R -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Hey Wonko...What's Not Eating Anything With LungsCalled?

2008-12-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
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Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread LWB250
My brother works for a small midwestern bank that is very well capitalized due to its conservative lending and investment practices. He related this to me when we were chatting over the holidays: The government is offering TARP funds to all banks. They were told that if they participated in

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from anindustryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread LWB250
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Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Frederick
No gasket, they are all glued in W126 chassis and later. Peter On Dec 29, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:29:27 -0700 Robert Rentfro rrent...@cox.net wrote: Took a big rock to the E320 windshield yesterday. Right in line of sight, of course. Started cracking

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from anindustryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Frederick
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Re: [MBZ] namen

2008-12-29 Thread RELNGSON
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[MBZ] Used Parts for Sale! Take a look!

2008-12-29 Thread Christopher McCann
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Re: [MBZ] 300SD Accel Pedal/Part??

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
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[MBZ] Idle speed control w124 300D

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Merle
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Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industryvendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Curt Raymond
this doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. With Mercedes glass and Mercedes gasket, at least the parts would be good quality. Craig -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote: Can't be true under the new Obama administration -- all will be sweetness and light, milk and honey, open and honest and transparent, and gosh darn it, people will like them! Lie-ing, thieving, sacks of crap - that's all. mao ___

Re: [MBZ] namen

2008-12-29 Thread Mountain Man
RLE wrote: I have no idea what CSOC means. But I have paid a fee for a Customs agent to drive from SeaTac Aitport down to Boeing Field to open their office on a Sunday. The reagan star wars test bed facility - Consolidated Space Operations Center - now called Falcon Air Force Station - which

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts for Sale! Take a look!

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
How about a 126 accel pedal with an intact plastic thingie that attaches to the accel arm thingie? --R Christopher McCann wrote: Dear List, With Kaleb's permission, I am posting this list of used parts to the list (below and attached as .rtf as well). Please let me know

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts for Sale! Take a look! - W126 pedal thingies

2008-12-29 Thread Christopher McCann
I can get you one at the pick n pull this saturday, if you want. They have 1 or 2 300SDs. I know exactly what you mean as those thingies broke on my pedal this summer. -Chris '85 300SD 241K mi/'92 Dodge B-350 Ram Wagon/'82 VW Vanagon Diesel 229K mi/'75 240D/'80 300SD/'83 240D/'84 300Dt/'85

Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Nothing much out of the ordinary. End of 93 was the start of the wiring and evap problems. However shouldn't that be a 320E? As usual pay up front for a good one or pay less for an abused heap. Hendrik with an abused 89 TE but is getting some treatment now R A Bennell wrote: A 92 E320

Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 2:29 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: What would be nice, would be to see some packages put together by Rusty, for older cars. I tend not to wait for things to fail before replacing them, as they always seem to fail at the most inappropriate time!! Would be nice if

Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Landenberger
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[MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread ernest breakfield
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Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread R A Bennell
Don't know. Ad says E320. 132K kilometers - so about 82K miles. Wants $5,500. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Frederick
by just replacing everything that moves down there? cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081229/60dda7a0/attachment.html ___ http

Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Mountain Man
e wrote: I had noise similar to what you describe - no clank, but the bumpy noise. I had new tires put on two weeks ago. On driving away - no noise. Tires looked fine, but new tires fixed what I thought was some driveline mishap, perhaps half shaft, perhaps diff. Solution: new tires - easy

Re: [MBZ] Opinions please - 92 E320

2008-12-29 Thread Wilton Strickland
'Sounds worth a good, long look. $9700 for my 87 300D (82 kmi) four and a half years ago, but it was absolutely showroom condition. Look for rust. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 29,

Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Rich Thomas
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[MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Pulled the valve cover today to survey the damage. Looks like there is supposed to be a slide rail at the top of the head under the chain toward the middle side of the engine, which is not there. Is this correct? Looks like its broken which caused the valve cover to break. Chain is intact

Re: [MBZ] ISO '87 300TD tranny

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its just a spare I have been holding on to just in case. Was rebuilt right before the car was parted out. No known issues. Christopher McCann wrote: What's the low down on that tranny...number of miles, did you drive drive it before pulling it? Any known issues? Thanks! Chris --- On

Re: [MBZ] Next Benz For Lt. Don

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
maybe he already bought it, end of ad says car is sold Rick Knoble wrote: Or maybe his bride, Deb. http://iowacity.craigslist.org/cto/972123686.html Seems like a good deal. Too bad Kaleb is on a buying freeze. Not Mine, No Affiliation, ect. Rick Knoble '87 190DT '85 300CD

Re: [MBZ] US mods

2008-12-29 Thread RELNGSON
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[MBZ] 140 300SD

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Saw a 92 300SD in the paper locally, 200k miles, 4995, in case anybody is interested. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
BZZT, WRONG, topic for banned lite, not here. Rich Thomas wrote: Can't be true under the new Obama administration -- all will be sweetness and light, milk and honey, open and honest and transparent, and gosh darn it, people will like them! --R -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD,

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts for Sale! Take a look!

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
buy new, not used. Rich Thomas wrote: How about a 126 accel pedal with an intact plastic thingie that attaches to the accel arm thingie? --R Christopher McCann wrote: Dear List, With Kaleb's permission, I am posting this list of used parts to the list (below and attached as .rtf as well).

Re: [MBZ] noise when loaded

2008-12-29 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
for before i have to just start addressing the problem shotgunning-style by just replacing everything that moves down there? cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229

Re: [MBZ] Next Benz For Lt. Don

2008-12-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
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Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread rusty
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Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] plates

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Chuck Landenberger pnzr...@mac.com writes: In addition to the Plate Frame Law, Arizona recently went to flat plates as opposed to embossed and probably cheaper to make. Less complicated for the governors and politicians, too Indiana did that a few years ago. Took a couple of attempts with

Re: [MBZ] OT A letter from GM and a response from an industry vendor's President.

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Seems to be the typical small business owner mantra. Look how efficiently I can run my operation, why can't big business be like me? The workers are overpaid, blah blah blah, I pay mine minimum wage, blah blah blah, a pizza lunch is their Christmas bonus. Unions are evil, blah blah blah, get

Re: [MBZ] plates

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Speaking of plates, we now have option of buying Euro style plates but the cost is 150 bucks a year. http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/ezyplates/euro.html Hendrik resisting the temptation Allan Streib wrote: Chuck Landenberger pnzr...@mac.com writes: In addition to the Plate Frame Law,

Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Robert Rentfro
this doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. Bob R. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081229/e5f7ad05/attachment.html ___ http

Re: [MBZ] Broken Windshield

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Monday. Supposedly I'm all hooked up with the shop that deals with Mercedes exclusively. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a fiasco. Bob R. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081229

Re: [MBZ] plates

2008-12-29 Thread E M
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Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread OK Don
I've never looked at one of those engines, so it's hard to say - did you pull the other side and compare? Can you get someone to crank it by hand while you watch the cam followers go up and down? Don't know how you'd tell if valves were bent other than to see if they go down and come back up. On

[MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Allen Sawyer
that executives were still getting their bonuses. The CEO had to go over that. ADS -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/4f41c558/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread OK Don
I wonder if Toyota provides a living retirement package, and what their profit margin will look like after they have a generation of retired workers to provide for? On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Allen Sawyer sawye...@sbcglobal.net wrote: It has been published several times that last year,

[MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread E M
, suggestions?? Ed 300E -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/601bfe59/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

[MBZ] 1986 Mercedes Benz 420 SEL - $999 (1129 West Shore Rd, Warwick, RI, 02889)

2008-12-29 Thread fred . star
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Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: I wonder if Toyota provides a living retirement package, and what their profit margin will look like after they have a generation of retired workers to provide for? If they're smart they have 401k plans or whatever, that they fund at some base amount, and to

Re: [MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes: I was offered a W123 300D Turbo Diesel with about 360,000 kms on it. Guy said some rust just starting, but drives well. He mentioned it's also starting to burn a bit of oil. Ok, just how many real miles do you get on average out of one of these engines

Re: [MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread OK Don
I find the 123s to be crude compared to the 124 - hold out one. On the other hand, if yo could use a beater - this might be a good candidate. On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 7:45 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, I was offered a W123 300D Turbo Diesel with about 360,000 kms on it. Guy

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Fraid you're gonna have to pull off the timing case. The piece that is broken off (find it here http://www.detali.ru/cat/cats/?cat=mb ) is situated between the two camshafts. Now the problem is that you have two holes in the cam cover. Why? Because something broke off in the bottom, got

Re: [MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread Chuck Landenberger
, suggestions?? Ed 300E -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/ attachments/20081229/601bfe59/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
Toyota provides a package that is in par with the big three. They have to do this to keep UAW out of their shops. Also, the oldest foreign auto factory is just 35 years old. In other words, they really have not retired anybody except for those eligible for a medical out and a few who have made it

Re: [MBZ] driveline noise diagnosis? ('85 300D)

2008-12-29 Thread Jim Cathey
Once one has experienced a few of each type of problem, one can usually determine whether it's driveline or wheel because of the base frequency of the noise: driveline is at about 3x the frequency of wheel noises. That helps narrow it down significantly. I had a rear wheel bearing go out once

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus tranny problems

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Took it in to the dealer, just no time to mess with it. MIL was on so something was wrong. They determined it was a bad solenoid, replaced and new fluid and filter for $350. A bit of a pinch but keeps me off the garage floor for a weekend. They did say there was still some pump noise and the

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Frederick W Moir
Kaleb, et al. From the photos, it looks like a very worn chain, and/or a dead tensioning device. When the throttle is suddenly released, the chain rides up the back of the sprocket and part jams between the guide and the sprocket, putting a lot of pressure on the guide, eventually breaking

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net writes: The issue is that each GM worker is supporting the medical benefits of 1.6 retirees their families. Um wait, retired workers would be on Medicare no? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
The issue with the big three is not the pension - it's funded and self sustaining and has to be this way by law. This issue is specifically the medical benefits and the fact that each GM worker is supporting his own medical benefits plus the benefits of 1.6 retirees and their dependents. These

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Wilton Strickland
Medicare at 65 years. Wilton - Original Message - From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net writes: The issue is that each GM

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Tom Hargrave
Nope, the auto workers have a 30 year retirement plan. For example, my Wife is eligible to retire at the age of 54 - that's 11 years short of Medicare. If she had gone to work for Chrysler when she was 18, as many did in states like Michigan, she would have retired last year at 48 years old - 17

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, but I probably will pull the other side have not tried to turn it over yet. When tom was looking at it for me he said the thing tried to start when they turned it over via starter. I dont want to turn it with the starter again till I see whats going on with the rails etc, make sure

Re: [MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread Curt Raymond
cars as a young man were a W123 wagon, and a 911.  Ok, I was a weird teen. lol The groups thoughts, suggestions?? Ed 300E -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20081229/33fe56ca

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im missing 110, and 119 and 128 appear to be broken as well. My theory is 110 broke, got drug across between the top of the chain and valve cover, and broke valve cover. It looks to me like 119 just bolts on from the top. But yes, Im sure the cover needs to come off just to be safe. Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] Used Parts for Sale! Take a look!

2008-12-29 Thread harry watkins
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Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I figure whatever needs to be done with the rails, it also should probably have a new chain and tensioner as well. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb, et al. From the photos, it looks like a very worn chain, and/or a dead tensioning device. When the throttle is suddenly released, the chain rides

Re: [MBZ] Toyota vs GM

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Tom Hargrave tharg...@hiwaay.net writes: Nope, the auto workers have a 30 year retirement plan. For example, my Wife is eligible to retire at the age of 54 - that's 11 years short of Medicare. If she had gone to work for Chrysler when she was 18, as many did in states like Michigan, she

Re: [MBZ] real lifespan of a W123??

2008-12-29 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: I'd say at that mileage, it all depends on how it's been cared for. There are no real averages at that point. Re-reading that, what I meant to say is that averages don't mean much at that point. Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] [Daveslist] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Dave M.
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Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Is 119 a lubricating guide? It appears to be matched to the semi-rectangular hole (which appears to have a piece stuck in it) http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/119brokenvalvecover/DSC02745.JPG There may well be quite a bit of plastic floating around in the motor, the oil pan may have to be dropped

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
not sure. Yes, Im sure there is still a good bit of plastic floating around. Hendrik Fay wrote: Is 119 a lubricating guide? It appears to be matched to the semi-rectangular hole (which appears to have a piece stuck in it) http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/119brokenvalvecover/DSC02745.JPG There

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