Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Luther
So, modern high speed washers, do they abuse the clothing more or less due to their speed? Luther Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: I have a hard time getting excited about matching appliances. Now matching Benz's - YES. Bingo. I'm using a Fisher-Paykel washer and a late 1960's vintage

Re: [MBZ] Crack smoker

2009-04-03 Thread Ed Booher
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVY-CHEVETTE-CS-1984-RARE-1-8-FACTORY-DIESEL_W0QQitemZ160325298400QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6173QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I have so many issues with this its crazy. Who would

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well heck, I figured the front loader would do a better job with that. Loren Faeth wrote: If you buy a new one, put it in the house, and put the maytag out in your shop to do your grungy clothes and shoprags. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they are supposed to be much easier on the cloths. Luther wrote: So, modern high speed washers, do they abuse the clothing more or less due to their speed? Luther Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: I have a hard time getting excited about matching appliances. Now matching Benz's - YES.

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Transmission Slipping

2009-04-03 Thread Douglas
Yesterday I jacked the car up and inspected the left side of the transmission and there was no bolt loose. Douglas Douglas -- listen closely -- crawl under your car on the port side, tranny stern. There will be a bolt with no screwdriver head on it. Slap a pair of channel locks on it and

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:30 -0500, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So, modern high speed washers, do they abuse the clothing more or less due to their speed? The front loader/horizontal style is supposedly gentler than the upright style. I've noticed that I get less lint in the drain

[MBZ] Now who's trampling on the Constitution??

2009-04-03 Thread Allan Streib
IMO the Patriot Act phone taps pale in comparison to this http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009/04/should-obama-control-internet ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther wrote: So, modern high speed washers, do they abuse the clothing more or less due to their speed? Mine has three spin speeds, the highest being 1000rpm. In the light duty cycles, like delicate, or perma press, the default spin speed is 300rpm, and I can manually adjust it up to 600rpm,

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread harry watkins
Anyone heard of a washer that becomes a dryer after the wash? Someone told my wife there is such a thing. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Now who's trampling on the Constitution??

2009-04-03 Thread Gary Hurst
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:46 -0500, harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net wrote: Anyone heard of a washer that becomes a dryer after the wash? Someone told my wife there is such a thing. I have seen them, they tend to be quite small, targeted at apartment dwellers with limited room for laundry

Re: [MBZ] Now who's trampling on the Constitution??

2009-04-03 Thread harry watkins
I agree Gary, all of these bills that I use to call kooky can now be passed and signed within a week. They are not discussed, nor read and they are coming at a rate of two or three a day. God save us. Harry we are well on the road to totalitarianism. as long as americans have their cable

Re: [MBZ] Now who's trampling on the Constitution??

2009-04-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
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Re: [MBZ] Now who's trampling on the Constitution??

2009-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: Except for all the guns out there... Yeah, but when is somebody going to use them? Never is beginning to look like the correct answer. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: they are supposed to be much easier on the cloths. That's for front loaders, which pull the water through the clothes, as opposed to a top loader using an agitator to pull the clothes through the water. My statement about high speed washers vs drying time was solely

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread drcscruggs
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Frederick W Moir
Greetings and Salutations, All. In the mid 60's in the UK, as a present to my hardworking Mom, I bought a washing machine that heated the water, washed and spun the clothes before drying them. It was a well made Italian machine, fairly large, not working or I couldn't have afforded it, and

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread LWB250
I think they do, based on my experience. The really big deal is how much less water and detergent they use and still do a good job getting things clean. Granted, I have very soft water, but I have gotten to the point where I use half of the recommended amount of detergent and stuff still

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread LWB250
True. The spin speeds are definitely higher than the top loaders, but the front loaders take longer for a similar cycle. I think my regular cycle is about 55 minutes long. If I'm doing whites with bleach (an extra rinse) it can run as high as 75-80 minutes. Dan --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Allan

Re: [MBZ] Chevette

2009-04-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: a diesel Chevette has got to be faster than a non-turbo diesel LUV, they had the same engine. Faster than a diesel finback, I wonder? I've been eyeing this one: http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/1101392325.html Alex

Re: [MBZ] Chevette

2009-04-03 Thread tyler
Nothing is slower than a diesel heckflosse, but they're so cool that you eventually realize you'd rather spend more time driving it, and less time at your destination anyways. Tyler Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: a diesel

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread tyler
I've always thought it was sort of a scam that they make separate units at all. They can make more profit selling you two appliances that take twice the space, even though it would be fairly straightforward to build them as one, since they're similar devices with a lot of parts in common. I

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:55:03 -0700 tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote: I've always thought it was sort of a scam that they make separate units at all. They can make more profit selling you two appliances that take twice the space, even though it would be fairly straightforward to build them

Re: [MBZ] Chevette

2009-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:48:08 -0700 tyler casi...@usermail.com wrote: Nothing is slower than a diesel heckflosse How about a diesel Ponton with automatic transmission? The Heckflosse Alex linked to has a 2 liter motor. The '64 190Dc we had had a 1.9 liter motor and an automatic transmission. The

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Luther
Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :) Luther Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, but with one device you have to wait to start another load washing until the first one is completely dry. With two devices you can start a second

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Allan Streib
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00 -0500, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :) Line-dried clothes often end up stiff and wrinkly, and then need to be ironed. For many people the convenience

Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread ned kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00:08 -0500 Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :) Yes, that's true in pleasant weather. If it's raining or is below freezing, that doesn't work so well. Craig

Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:19:34 -0400 ned kleinhenz ned.kleinh...@gmail.com wrote: But what happened to the lint? The old Maytag had a lint filter in the middle of the agitator. That filter collected a real pile of slimy crud from each load. The new Whirlpool machine has no place to clean

Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Frederick W Moir
Ned, et al. On the Whirlpool washers that I have serviced for family members, the lint filter was moved from the RF corner to the outlet hose assy. During the wash cycle, some small rubber balls in a cone shaped holder catch the lint and on pump-out it is flushed by the water being pumped the

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Luther wrote: Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :) That's even cheaper. All you need is a washer and a $10 wooden rack. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] A real genuine MB Question!

2009-04-03 Thread R A Bennell
I know this has been asked and answered lots of times but here goes again. Saw an ad this AM for a 92 E320 4matic that looks to be in nice condition. Is this something to be looked at or avoided? If memory serves to be correct, old 4matics might be expensive to fix and / or maintain. Other

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread R A Bennell
I recall, in the last energy crunch, in the 70's, an ad for a solar clothes dryer for a reasonable price. Fellow would send you a length of rope with instructions to tie it between 2 trees. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] A real genuine MB Question!

2009-04-03 Thread John Freer
yes to everything except the rusty spring perches.That was reserved for the next generation 210's. Oh yeah, then there is also the leaking head gasket issue as well. Of course, a review of the service records may eliminate some of these concerns. John On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM, R A Bennell

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, that's true in pleasant weather. If it's raining or is below freezing, that doesn't work so well. Works great in freezing weather. I rack them indoors and humidify the house. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:19 PM, ned kleinhenz ned.kleinh...@gmail.com wrote: The old Maytag had a lint filter in the middle of the agitator. That filter collected a real pile of slimy crud from each load. The new Whirlpool machine has no place to clean out collected lint. I've always

Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Front loaders are much gentler on the clothing, so much less lint is generated, and it tends to stay with the clothes anyway since they are not swimming about in a lake of water. We get less lint in the dryer than we used to, and essentially none in the washer waste water. I do have pipe

Re: [MBZ] A real genuine MB Question!

2009-04-03 Thread Tony Wirtel
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Re: [MBZ] Chevette

2009-04-03 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 41, Issue 18

2009-04-03 Thread spots @dslextreme.com
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[MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I really like dark blue and dark green 126s, and am always kind of half-seriously looking for one for a project, so I had to respond to this ad on Portland Craigslist: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1098476919.html I figured if he's asking $600 and wants it gone by the weekend (in all

Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1098476919.html I'm sure that could be brought back from the dead. The euros would be attractive to have, too. You're getting into Chicken Wagon territory there, but when done a 126 would be a superior ride than a 123. And only $200 more than the CW

Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Peter Hertzing
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Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Wilton Strickland
$6?? Why so much ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Wilton Strickland
BTW, Jim, what's the latest with the construction project? Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers $6?? Why so much

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, I have, washer and drier all in one, but I have never seen one. harry watkins wrote: Anyone heard of a washer that becomes a dryer after the wash? Someone told my wife there is such a thing. Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I hate line dried cloths. Allan Streib wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00 -0500, Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :) Line-dried clothes often end up stiff and wrinkly, and then need

[MBZ] Chevettes [was: Re: Crack smoker]

2009-04-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
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Re: [MBZ] OT top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
So Maytag man, would this sometimes cause a clogged outlet filter? Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Luther
Freeze dried clothing does work, when the wind is blowing. I know, BDTD. Luther Craig McCluskey wrote: On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:00:08 -0500 Luther benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Or, (heaven forbid you save anyMORE energy) you can hang the clothes up to dry while the 2nd load washes! :)

Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Has the wife figured out the SEL? Yes and no. Daniel threw up in the Chicken Wagon today, and we needed to go to a rehearsal at church. Since the CW's carpet was drying she asked if we could take the white car. OK, sez I. (My preference would have been to hold off letting her travel in it

Re: [MBZ] OT: The West Wing

2009-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW, Jim, what's the latest with the construction project? It's painted. The stone work is done except for some mortar joints. Lights in yesterday. The wood stove was installed today. Carpet and deck railing are about all that's left. Oh, and landscape repair. Lots of that... -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] CL Benz manglers

2009-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Has the wife figured out the SEL? Oh, and she _did_ notice the odd little intermittent whine, and did _not_ notice the lack of diesel noise. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] Rust on a 450SLC - where to look

2009-04-03 Thread David Bruckmann
Gang, Looking at an SLC on Saturday. Wondering where to look for rust. It is a California car, so it won't be quite as easy to find. Wondering where the hidden demons might be. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Rust on a 450SLC - where to look

2009-04-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Looking at an SLC on Saturday. Wondering where to look for rust. It is a California car, so it won't be quite as easy to find. Wondering where the hidden demons might be. Seriously? Anywhere that rain doesn't land directly on it. Rockers, headlight shells, trunk lid, battery box, cabin

Re: [MBZ] Rust on a 450SLC - where to look

2009-04-03 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] top loading washer

2009-04-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep OK Don wrote: They smell like pollen, and are hard. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,