[MBZ] Kleb special

2009-10-23 Thread Rich Thomas
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[MBZ] O/T Texas

2009-10-23 Thread pm7088
Anyone on the esteemed list in the general are of Austin Texas? If so, please contact me off list. -- Peter T. Arnold P.M. x3 All Mail to: Secretary Hartford Evergreen Lodge #88 A.F. A.M. 34 Country Club Drive Windsor, CT 06095 ___

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread MG
Larry, The way it was explained to me once was; The stall speed is the point at which the engine can't turn any faster when the accelerator is pushed all the way down while the car is standing still brakes on and the transmission is in drive. This is due to the sheer strength of the oil and

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Frederick
To be a bit more accurate, it's not horsepower dependent, really, it's the slip ratio of the torque converter (which is a bit more complicated than a fluid coupling). High slip results in torque amplification. Effectively it's a lower gear ratio. Your comments of efficiency and fuel

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread LarryT
Thanks MG for that extensive explanation! It'll take me a little time to study it a bit. ;-) Take care - LarryT 91 300D Does your business accept or need to accept V/MC/AE/Dis? We have the best rates 0% Interest Business loans. Visit: http://www.merchantreferralsolutions.com/A365706

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Bill R
And we are still awaiting the Dome warming party. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of MG Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:34 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options Larry, The

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Bill R
The scary part is that I think he gave us the Cliffs Notes version. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 10:12 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Nothing is really multiplied it is just that the engine is allowed to produce more usable power... I agree with your description, except for the above. Our 450 SL had stripped splines on the stator shaft into the torque converter. Thus, more of the TC guts could turn with the engine. How,

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Frederick
The simple answer is that oil circulates in a torque converter (or any fluid coupling) --the pump side throws the oil into the turbine side, where it impacts the blades and then swirls down and out the hub side. The stator at the hub directs this flow back to the pump blades. The angle

[MBZ] '82 300D for sale

2009-10-23 Thread L. Mark Finch
Looks as though the neighborhood kid who was interested in my car is going to buy a '95 Volvo instead, so I'll be putting my 82 300D on eBay this weekend if nobody else buys it. I'd like $1,000 for it. More details are at http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/ 1408744340.html . Photos will

Re: [MBZ] Just far enough away

2009-10-23 Thread Curt Raymond
No no it IS too far away, thats the whole point. I can't POSSIBLY go look at it as its WAY too far away... Look I'm gonna check out the '82 300D in Groveland next week, what else do you want from me. If I buy the stupid thing its all your fault... Current plan on that one (its a $950 300D that

Re: [MBZ] Crooks

2009-10-23 Thread RELNGSON
I used to work in a shop that used similar strategies only more like this:.. And, all of these were the beloved indys that so many wet their pants over. You think there aren't MB shops like this? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

[MBZ] IL “NEW MUTUO” (E FINANZIAMENTI) PER IL PRIVATO CONSUMATORE

2009-10-23 Thread SSC Srl
Buongiorno da SSC. Il NEW MUTUO non cosa di tutti i giorni ed gi operativo. Proposta interessante per chi intende contrarre un mutuo per ogni esigenza e necessit, compreso la liquidit. Leggi. Restiamo a Sua disposizione per eventuali

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Peter, What about the Chrysler, Dodge, Desoto Fluid Drive. I had 50 Dodge pickup with the fluid drive. It was just a big sealed unit-fluid coupler-also had a dry clutch in the drive line as well for shifting. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K

[MBZ] Older

2009-10-23 Thread Peter T. Arnold
I learned to drive on a Dodge P/U with that combo. I'm sure a a period M/B diesel would have streaked by it in a drag race. It had 3 pedals. You could leave it in 3rd which came in handy if your girlfrind was sitting right next to you and your hands were cold. -- Pete Arnold

Re: [MBZ] lockup

2009-10-23 Thread RELNGSON
Lockup torque converters are great, by the way Quite true. Current MB autos lock up in all gears. In the MB design, they are slower to downshift which requires coming out of lockup and which takes more throttle than you might like. Lots of complaints about this from 7-speed owners

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread MG
However if you put the same torque converter behind an engine with more horsepower it will slip more before it reaches the stall speed won't it? Conversely I believe a torque converter with more slip as opposed to a converter with less slip on the same engine will allow it to develop more

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread MG
And unfortunately probably will still be waiting by this time next year. But then again maybe not as stranger things have happened. Don't give up the ship! Manfred Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:14:40 -0400 From: Bill R billr32...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission options And we

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread MG
Not really. That was just about all I know on the subject. Now the dome on the other hand I could go on for hours about. However I'm a nice guy and refuse to abuse everyone on the list like that. Now you on the other hand as a captive audience when you are down here are fair game. :-D

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread MG
My take on it is that the oil comes out of the turbine going in the direction opposite to the turning of the engine and that it is the stator that causes the fluid to change direction in the center of the converter so that it can be used again without wasting engine power. If the splines are

[MBZ] OK Don needs this

2009-10-23 Thread Mitch Haley
This one is new in a case, not refurbed in a cardboard box: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270467587340 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread OK Don
Which all points out the fact that all the factors have to be taken into account, choices and compromises made, and that there is no one right answer, just different trade-offs. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: However if you put the same torque converter

Re: [MBZ] OK Don needs this

2009-10-23 Thread OK Don
Unfortunately, the listing has ended. Fortunately, I do have a refurb sitting in the living room right now. I'll get oil for it tomorrow, and try it out on some old logs that are lying around --- On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: This one is new in a case, not

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Frederick
If you've ever driven an old 220D with a four speed auto and fluid coupling, you are familiar with the lack of torque at low speed. Engine rpm will NOT rise above the stall speed of the coupling plus road speed, makes for very slow acceleration until you get the engine spinning, and they

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Don't know if there is more slip for more hp -- in fact, you cannot develop hp, you can only use it. Hp is work. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] OK Don needs this

2009-10-23 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Unfortunately, the listing has ended. Fortunately, I do have a refurb sitting in the living room right now. Did it come with the original yellow bar, or the black replacement bar? Mine came with a brand new chain and brand new black bar. If you need a carb adjusting

Re: [MBZ] OK Don needs this

2009-10-23 Thread OK Don
It has a yellow bar, and both the bar and the chain look new - didn't know about the special driver -thanks. On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: OK Don wrote: Unfortunately, the listing has ended. Fortunately, I do have a refurb sitting in the living room

[MBZ] OT: Dome [was Re: transmission options....]

2009-10-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:02:31 -0400 MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Not really. That was just about all I know on the subject. Now the dome on the other hand I could go on for hours about. Are you talking about a geodesic dome house? I helped a fellow build one of those years ago. Craig

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Jim Cathey
If you've ever driven an old 220D with a four speed auto and fluid coupling, you are familiar with the lack of torque at low speed. Engine rpm will NOT rise above the stall speed of the coupling plus road speed, makes for very slow acceleration until you get the engine spinning, and they are

Re: [MBZ] transmission options....

2009-10-23 Thread Peter Frederick
A 250C has a lot more low end torque that a 220D -- lot more hp, too, since that version cranked out a grand 65 in new condition. Mine was well worn! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives