Re: [MBZ] Taxi

2011-02-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: W126 with 240D wheels: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2220575228.html Look close; there's a turbine sort of pattern to the spokes around what appears to be the hubcap. They're actually Centras or some such early-'80s

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
1. How shoudl I go about starting it? Freshly-charged battery of the right size. Make sure glow plugs are glowing. Start normally. Unless gunked up with algae, these things can sit happily for a long time and start right up, I think the Frankenheap had about 10 years on it when I got it. I

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I forgot to mention that the cruise control and HVAC system may both be semi- or fully-dysfunctional. That's getting to be normal at this age, and needn't be a huge problem. Helps if you can solder! The vacuum locking system will probably be having some problems too, it's almost a given. Also

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Hertzing
I'm a little disappointed in what I hearing about mileage. The vacum and other issues aren't really any different then what I have delt with in my gasser but I was hoping to get in the nieghborhood of 28 - 30 MPG. I have a 90 mile round trip communte with some rolling hills but all at 55 or a

[MBZ] OT computer problem

2011-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
I use a service that lets me into government databases for land titles etc. Unfortunaetly it is a bit of a dinosaur I guess. I let Java update itself to jre6u24 and that caused problems. The applet won't load. The help desk tells me, just uninstall that and revert to the previous version which

Re: [MBZ] My Republican radio has a change of heart

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Thomas
It might have become a lesbian too. --R On 2/24/2011 9:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: You might remember that the Monza in my '78 240D hated NPR and would frequently switch to another station. Yesterday while I was diagnosing the vacuum system on the car I was listening to WGBH which is sort of

Re: [MBZ] Taxi

2011-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: W126 with 240D wheels: http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2220575228.html Look close; there's a turbine sort of pattern to the spokes around what appears to be the hubcap. They're actually Centras

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Hertzing wrote: I'm a little disappointed in what I hearing about mileage. The vacum and other issues aren't really any different then what I have delt with in my gasser but I was hoping to get in the nieghborhood of 28 - 30 MPG. I have a 90 mile round trip communte with some rolling

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Max Dillon
Peter - you've been bitten by the diesel bug and the pathogen has already spread through your bloodstream to all vital organs, don't resist, don't try to fight it. You will have no rest until you buy one, so just go give the man his money... -Max (bought and sold two, currently own two, but

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Hertzing
Yea - but I gotta justify the purchase with saving some green on fuel costs.. My wife is watching these email exchanges at home right now calculating which other needs to go. I've the bug alright. On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote: Peter - you've

[MBZ] Valet lock

2011-02-25 Thread Robert Bigham
Hello Allan I dunno about the W116, but I do know about the W123 valet lock. It is a keyway and a key - nothing else. The valet key will not unlock the trunk. Will unlock the driver's door and the ignition key switch. Keyway on driver's door and ignition lock are wedge-shaped, wider at the

Re: [MBZ] wax?

2011-02-25 Thread R A Bennell
Not very do-able in Winnipeg these days. Minus 30 this morning. Even automatic car washes give up and close when it gets too cold. I ran my truck through on Wednesday as it was only minus 15 or so and it would sit in the sun long enough to dry out and not freeze solid. That is the best time to

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Max Dillon
Peter, You won't know what kind of mileage the car will return until you drive it, but it almost certainly could fall between 25 and 30 mpg on a highway commute at 55 mph or so, and I think it possibly could do better if all the planets align. Remember that diesel fuel is more expensive than

Re: [MBZ] waxed glass

2011-02-25 Thread Max Dillon
Field report: no problems at all driving at night in rain with wax on my windshield. No problems this a.m. driving in sunlight + light rain. -Max From: relng...@aol.com relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 10:37:55 PM

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Then you want a 240D, with 45 miles of mostly highway running I got my '83 240D to do 32mpg a couple times when I kept myself to no more than 65mph. I suspect if you could keep a constant 55mph on fairly flat ground you might go to 35mpg but that'd be a stretch. I averaged right on 28mpg with

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I would imagine that limiting highway speed to 60 mph would return 30 mpg in my wagon The best mileage I've ever gotten in either of the two '87 300Ds I've owned was 31 mpg with the cruise control set at 75 on a

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On the third hand, Peter F. has reported consistently getting better than 30 mpg in mixed (i.e. not just freeway) driving in an '87. But his car is an outlier, or perhaps he is. ;) Was it Peter who got creamed by a one ton van in a very nice '87? Was the 30+mpg in

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread ernest breakfield
you can hope,...;-) i think that's high, based on what i see most people around here in similar cars getting. there are lots of variables, but count on low/mid 20s, and you're less likely to be disappointed. cheers! e On 25/Feb/11 07:53, Peter Hertzing wrote: I was hoping to get

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
A 190D 2.2l 5spd is the mileage maker, best I got with mine was 43mpg, averaged more like 38 over about 90,000 miles. Ours (2.5) has seen 42 a couple of times, but usually less. It's in storage (if you can call outside 'storage') right now because we just don't really like the car, but as I

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Max Dillon
I think that Dave M. had one of his fine 124 cars give it's life to save his several years ago, maybe that's who your are thinking of. -Max From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Gerry Archer
My '83 300D gets combined road and city 27 mpg. Indy says it has a very good engine, so that might account for the mpg. On the interstate several years ago it also got around 27-28 mpg at 65 mph. Gerry PS: Peter, do you or anyone know of a good cleaning fluid for the pc boards in the HVAC

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Hertzing
I don't but maybe someone else does... On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: My '83 300D gets combined road and city 27 mpg. Indy says it has a very good engine, so that might account for the mpg. On the interstate several years ago it also got around

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Walt Zarnoch
75% or higher isopropyl rubbing alcohol, aka rubbing alcohol. The 50% stuff will work, but will require much much much more effort to clean as good. Qtips, white cotton rags/paper towels, and a soft/medium toothbrush help as well. Walt On Feb 25, 2011 4:59 PM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com

[MBZ] ***NO MB CONTENT *** DELETE BEFORE READING!!!! Counterfeit Car Maker Cranks Out Porsches and Fauxraris

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Gotta love an entrepreneur --R http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/01/st_counterfeitcars/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Rick Knoble
PS: Peter, do you or anyone know of a good cleaning fluid for the pc boards in the HVAC on these cars? Thanks, Gerry Deoxit. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread LWB250
You can by electronic cleaner by companies like CRC at places like Lowes and Home Despot. The best stuff used to be Freon based, but it's all been taken off the market Dan --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject:

Re: [MBZ] ***NO MB CONTENT *** DELETE BEFORE READING!!!! Counterfeit Car Maker Cranks Out Porsches and Fauxraris

2011-02-25 Thread Hendrik Fay
Wonder what he is gonna do with the 126? Rolls Royce? Hendrik with a real Mercedes...I think Rich Thomas wrote: Gotta love an entrepreneur --R http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/01/st_counterfeitcars/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Gerry Archer
Truck stops used to carry bottles of absolute isopropyl alcohol. I'll check next time in Wildwood. I have several cans of Deoxit Dp5. Is all Deoxit essentially the same? Their website lists several kinds. Thanks, Gerry -- 75% or higher

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
Regarding the disappointment that an OM617 diesel will turn in only mid-20s on MPG... it always helps to put it in perspective. a) That's better MPG than you'd get with all but the smallest SUVs and close to what you'd get with any car of equivalent size. b) If you're comparing it to something

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes: You can by electronic cleaner by companies like CRC at places like Lowes and Home Despot. The best stuff used to be Freon based, but it's all been taken off the market Hm... maybe camping gas? Or propane? Jim C? Allan -- 1983 300D

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks, Dan. I'll check at Home Depot. Gerry From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com You can by electronic cleaner by companies like CRC at places like Lowes and Home Despot. The best stuff used to be Freon based, but it's all been taken off the market Dan

[MBZ] Was it a TDI?

2011-02-25 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3433645/Elephant-has-sex-with-a-car.html --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] Taxi

2011-02-25 Thread Craig
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:39:11 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: You're right that it's not a 240D hubcap, but I think it's a full wheel cover on a steel wheel. Yup, they look just like the ones my '72 220D/8 (W115) had. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
know of a good cleaning fluid for the pc boards in the HVAC on these cars? For cleaning before resoldering? I use paint stripper. Perhaps you're talking about a different purpose? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Craig
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:09:10 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On the third hand, Peter F. has reported consistently getting better than 30 mpg in mixed (i.e. not just freeway) driving in an '87. But his car is an outlier, or perhaps he is. ;) Was

[MBZ] DIY W124 sunroof repair

2011-02-25 Thread CAPTBILL2001
Is this the same as a 1989 560 sel? Mins is closed, was when I bought it in Dec. It is down about 1 inch in the back. No water leak, just a lot of noise. What would my next step be? Thanks very much, Bill in WV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup, that's me. Still about 30 mpg, but I cheat -- I drive 35 miles or so in about 50 minutes, over half the distance on winding country roads at 45 mph or so, and the rest at 60 on a nearly flat four lane. I nearly always get better milage than most people in any given vehicle for some

Re: [MBZ] DIY W124 sunroof repair

2011-02-25 Thread Jim Cathey
Is this the same as a 1989 560 sel? Mins is closed, was when I bought it in Dec. It is down about 1 inch in the back. No water leak, just a lot of noise. What would my next step be? I think the pop-up sunroof (double-acting) is the same. It's reputedly a real bear to work on. If yours

[MBZ] OT at the opera tonight

2011-02-25 Thread Luther's Benz
Tonight was Wagner's Lohengrin at the Lyric in Chicago. nbsp;5 great voices. nbsp;The best Lohengrin tenor and best Elsa soprano Mmm, WOW. nbsp;As much as I hate being able to spit over my neighbor, paying for parking, taking 10 minutes to travel 2 miles (and the toll it takes on my

Re: [MBZ] DIY W124 sunroof repair

2011-02-25 Thread Peter Frederick
First thing to do is see if you can move it with the motor. if not, it gets a bit complicated (as does the W126, they are quite similar). If it is reluctant to move, unclip the headliner panel and shove it back -- may have to dislodge the clip on the rear, too. This will let you

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Gerry Archer
know of a good cleaning fluid for the pc boards in the HVAC on these cars? For cleaning before resoldering? I use paint stripper. Perhaps you're talking about a different purpose? -- Jim Cleaning before resoldering. Do you use paste or

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) 1983 300D

2011-02-25 Thread Fmiser
Peter Hertzing wrote: I'm a little disappointed in what I hearing about mileage. The vacum and other issues aren't really any different then what I have delt with in my gasser but I was hoping to get in the nieghborhood of 28 - 30 MPG. I have a 90 mile round trip communte with some rolling