Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
My high line car broker buddy always told me that the combination of silver and maroon took 20% off the value of a car. Not being critical, just making the observation I could live with it myself. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2011, at 9:45 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

[MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Ralph Robertson
I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths out quickly and runs fine.

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Ralph Robertson wrote: I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the rough running. Smooths

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: In the South the cops would have joined the guy for a cold one. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/08/08/motorized-beer-cooler-driver-charged-with-drunk-driving/?test=faces Get your own on eBay today! http://search.ebay.com/110724096614

Re: [MBZ] Classic center is snobbish?

2011-08-09 Thread rkmercedes
I had nothing but positive experiences with the MB Classic Center too! A few years ago I needed a small rubber grommet for the radiator on my 1983 300D. They not only took the time to locate it and email me pictures to verify the part was correct, they sent it FedEx (no charge). Bob

Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread Rolf
Are u coming to rustyQ? -Rolf On 08/08/2011 09:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I have a complete 124 seat for grabs. Back, bottom, motors etc. Does not need rebuilding. just put it in, or change the covers and then put it in. Come N get it, or pay frt. Hey gang, how hard is it to RR the

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Allan Streib
Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com writes: I have about 150K miles on my 87 300SDL and am wondering at what mileage, I should be planning on changing the timing chain. It is running well, except for first starts when I get a rough running for about 8 sec. with blue smoke accompanying the

[MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread rogerhga
Jerry, I'd switch even my old diesels for synthetic diesel. It's cleaner, more power, better mileage, but I don't expect to see it. It's better to try to create something else rather than what could be. And even our old diesels would run on synthetic diesel without costly mods. Best Wishes,

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Fred Moir
Alles. Too bad C.A.R.B. will need a $20 million bribe, er fee, to okay its' import. Cynical? Me? Nah! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 8/9/2011 7:39 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: In the South the cops would have joined the guy for a cold one.

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Max Dillon
Too late, sounds like your engine is already ruined. I'll give you $750 for it. No? Ok, you need to replace some bad glow plugs, and pull the valve cover to check the amount of chain stretch. When it reaches 5 degrees, replace the chain. If the oil has been changed according to

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Are we talking about running diesel engines on CNG (I'd only heard of that with spark ignition engines), or are we talking about synthesizing diesel from NG? Mitch. roger...@comcast.net wrote: Jerry, I'd switch even my old diesels for synthetic diesel. It's cleaner, more power, better

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Fred Moir wrote: Alles. Too bad C.A.R.B. will need a $20 million bribe, er fee, to okay its' import. Cynical? Me? Nah! Ah, yes, when it comes to vehicle emissions, MA is part of CA now, isn't it? I guess it's cheaper that way. Instead of setting up their own board of politically connected

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Michael Canfield
Why the hell can't we Americans just realize that if we would quit worrying about everyone's safety and use the technology available around the rest of the world our vehicles would get better mpg and then, obviously, there would be less emissions per vehicle? Let ME decide if I want to ride in a

Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread Dieselhead
Not talking about high line collectibles. just ordinary 124 and 126 I never thought silver looked good on a 123. Midnight blue and maroon are probably my favorite colors for 123s. My high line car broker buddy always told me that the combination of silver and maroon took 20% off the value

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Most of the US is under the BUTT of CARB. Those jokers are the reason that we hardly see anything but a truck with a diesel stateside... But they turn a blind eye to the fact that a Prius costs more in emissions to make over a similarly sized car than it will ever save... Walt, who still wants

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Walt Zarnoch wrote: Walt, who still wants his turbodiesel sports coup, bad enough he might grab an OM60X or a VW TDI and make it happen... I'd love to get a nice SLK or Crossfire with a blown engine for under $5k. I'd also love to have a four cylinder CDI engine and the ability to reprogram

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Walt Zarnoch
vag-com cables are cheap. ;) Walt On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Walt Zarnoch wrote: Walt, who still wants his turbodiesel sports coup, bad enough he might grab an OM60X or a VW TDI and make it happen... I'd love to get a nice SLK or Crossfire with a

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ

2011-08-09 Thread Rusty Cullens
This is probably the closest hotel:

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ

2011-08-09 Thread Rolf
I have yet to collate all my PM's but I have roughly the same number in PM's from various boards plus numerous more that said they were interested. It should be a good turn out. I plan on cooking 100 burgers and numerous hotdogs. -Rolf On 08/09/2011 10:03 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: This is

Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
An MB is considered a high line car when you speak with brokers. They are lumped in with Porsches, BMWs, etc. I say this because I bought a 1991 300E at Mannheim in 1996, and this was one of the things my broker pointed out. Silver exterior, maroon interior, probably worth 20% less than a

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Running diesels on natural gas is old news. Been done for years in the transmission line business. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 8:53 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Are we talking about running diesel engines on CNG (I'd only heard of that with spark ignition

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Randy Bennell
Geez, you are going to drive up the price of old MB's. You should be offering $400. It used to be $500 but with the state of the US economy, it will likely be down to $250 shortly so if you offered $400 he would likely jump at it! Randy (who would really like one of those too!) On

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
Converting flared/stranded natural gas deposits into diesel is the veritable valhalla of synthetic fuels development. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Running diesels on natural gas is old news. Been done for years in the transmission line business. Dan

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
I have some experience with that program. About 12 years ago our local transit system converted several buses to LNG [Liquified Natural Gas] to join the clean is green movement. The engines ran OK, delivery and fill systems worked fine, however, power and mileage lost the match. Total BTU of LNG

Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108

2011-08-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2529563809.html Hard to tell from these photos, but looks like it might be reasonably solid. It better be for $5K. The four-door sixes are neither particularly desirable nor

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
The issue here is AQ. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 09:43:41 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
Not old to me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:46:16 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Diesels have been modified to run on NG for some time in the transmission line and drilling industry. This is mainly due to cheap and readily available gas supplies at the point of origin. Keep in mind that the decreased power output was offset by oversizing the prime mover, with the resulting

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
The relationship of the American Citizen and Congress [and apparently every other citizen with their Government worldwide] is on parallel with a marriage where one spouse finds to late the other spouse is a drug addict with a gambling habit, and has lost or blown the entire net worth of the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
I like this. Where can I get one? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 12:55 PM, G Mann The bumper sticker on back of my 300SD says Charlie Sheen / Leslie Lohan 2012 Country is going to hell, elect a team that knows the way ___

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
I believe if you take a gasoline engine and raise the compression ratio, you can get better power than with gasoline (but range is still a problem with compressed natural gas) 15-20 years back, Dick Guldstrand was showing drawings of a proposed ultra high performance CNG fueled Corvette GS.

Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
What is that color - desert sand? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:51:52 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
Nice color for an S LC. AC issue sounds a bit fishy. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:53:49 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
Well put. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 23:14:33 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject:

Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
How about anthracite gray/sienna? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:24:15 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread astrasfogel
What are warning signs for a worn-about-to-snap timing chain on a 1983 or '85 W123 turbodiesel? Andrew (300TD x 2) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:45:31

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Commonly done in the generator and industrial engine market. Wreaked a lot of havoc because there were two different pistons used for the same engine, depending on the type of fuel used. You could go down, but not up... Dan Sent from my iPhone On Aug 9, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Mitch Haley

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Allan Streib
astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: What are warning signs for a worn-about-to-snap timing chain on a 1983 or '85 W123 turbodiesel? I'm not sure there are any clear-cut ones. As I recall Marshall said the engines would run apparently fine with significant chain stretch. The proactive thing to do

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Ralph Robertson
Correct me if I am wrong, but I was of the opinion that there wasn't any valve adjustments required for the 603 engine, which is my 300SDL, but would be required on the 617, which is in my '84 300CD. Is this correct?? Ralph On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Ralph Robertson wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I was of the opinion that there wasn't any valve adjustments required for the 603 engine, which is my 300SDL, but would be required on the 617, which is in my '84 300CD. Is this correct?? Ralph Correct, screw adjust lifters on 617,

Re: [MBZ] W124 front seats for a change

2011-08-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Dunno. Didn't come up. The silver/maroon color scheme was one of the things he pointed out when I was looking. Understand that he was also at the auction to buy cars for commercial buyers, and these are issues relevant to them as customers. They want iron they can move, not something that

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had this one made. I'm sure he would be very happy to make as many as wanted. The one of a kind cost me about $20... but it suited my twisted sense of humor, so I gave myself a treat. ;)) Grant... Gas is something you

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
Same issue here, but funny how the Air Quality issue went away as soon as the federal funds were sucked out. City instead spend 6.8 Billion of Federal money on a light rail system... which immediately started losing money... lots of money. If the government spent 6.8 billion on planting trees to

[MBZ] sls troubles

2011-08-09 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
Folks spoke to Rusty yesterday. He said he could supply neither the hose or complete hose or the kit to repair the pump i found THIS pump repair kit at autohaus.az the part was not there last week looks identical to mercedessource kit for $65 9002300064

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread Allan Streib
I was assuming the control box was the evil Chrylser ACC. But you are right, it could be any number of other problems ranging from fairly cheap/easy to rather expensive. In Indiana, summers are pretty uncomfortable without working AC. One has to assume that if a car is being sold with

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread LWB250
If it's a 1978 then you almost have to have the dreaded servo.  No doubt they have probably discovered this, too. Dan From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 4:55 PM Subject: Re:

[MBZ] Bimby

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
anybody else getting a blank page at buymbparts.biz? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/08/2011 3:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I was assuming the control box was the evil Chrylser ACC. But you are right, it could be any number of other problems ranging from fairly cheap/easy to rather expensive. In Indiana, summers are pretty uncomfortable without working AC. One has to

Re: [MBZ] Bimby

2011-08-09 Thread buymbparts
Yep. Servers down, be up soon Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:08:23 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
I can get you any number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers for free. ;) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 3:26 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had this one made. I'm sure he would be very happy to make as many as wanted.

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
20 yrs. ago I owned a 78 SL C with the vertical pb unit and older style servo; even in those days it was pricey to fix/replace the AC. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/08/2011 3:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I was assuming the control box was the

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: I can get you any number of Obama 2012 bumper stickers for free. ;) Should be interesting to see who the Dem nominee is. Unlike 1980, challengers won't be put off by the president quietly muttering Chappaquiddick. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Bimby

2011-08-09 Thread LWB250
Rusty, Did you get my message with the detailing info last week? Dan From: buymbpa...@gmail.com buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2011 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bimby Yep. Servers down, be up soon

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond
MassPort has been running all the busses at the airport on CNG for years now, at least the last 8 years that I've been traveling frequently. Back 10 or so years ago Portland, Maine had an electric bus for commuter to park in a lot outside of downtown. I rode it quite a bit. The driver's

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Leslie? Thought it was Lindsy? Walt, who thinks people shouldn't get special treatment because there's a box-office flop with their name in the credits... On Aug 9, 2011 3:26 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, I have a local guy that will make one off bumper stickers. That's where I had

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Back 10 or so years ago Portland, Maine had an electric bus for commuter to park in a lot outside of downtown. I rode it quite a bit. The driver's commented that the biggest issue the designers had (I gathered the bus was a work in progress) was

Re: [MBZ] Ethanol could be risk in U.S. pipelines

2011-08-09 Thread G Mann
AHHhh. same result... different candidate.. love the irony. Send me a few trillion. Either way, next diesel I shop for will have armor and riot control gear most likely. Is there a forum for those vehicles? ;)) On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:27 PM, andrew strasfogel

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Max Dillon
Low power, decreased mileage, valves meet pistons, bad noises from under the hood. Or usually it runs fine and then doesn't. Really no excuse not to check your chain every time you adjust your valves. Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural gas.

2011-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond
Battery powered. Trackless trollys have been a fixture of greater Boston for years and years. -Curt Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 18:42:44 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] conversion of diesel-fueled engines to natural

Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108

2011-08-09 Thread Dwight Giles Jr.
Ah yes my first (and abiding) love. Sweet. And first MB I ever drove. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 220K miles 1990 300D 2.5t 196K miles Wickford RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl timing chain,

2011-08-09 Thread Peter Frederick
No valve adjustments on a 60x engine, it's a special job to check the chain. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Hendrik Fay
Alas we cannot claim this particular piece of genius http://www.xtrememotorizedcooler.com/index.htm although from what I remember down south you are not allowed to be in possession of cold beer, we'll at least not on a Sunday. Hendrik who would prefer a motorized BBQ (you can plonk the esky

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Mountain Man
Mike wrote:  Let ME decide if I want to ride in a little car! Dude... You have been dumbed down already - you are an american - no chance you can decide - it has already been decided for you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Dieselhead
Made in the Elmira, NY area. Not far from Neil and Star Motors. Alas we cannot claim this particular piece of genius http://www.xtrememotorizedcooler.com/index.htm although from what I remember down south you are not allowed to be in possession of cold beer, we'll at least not on a Sunday.

Re: [MBZ] 450 SLC

2011-08-09 Thread OK Don
So did I - I had to replace it, bought one somewhere on-line on sale for around $275 (BenzBin?) - this was before I'd discovered Rusty. It worked fine for the next six years or so that I drove the car. The trick is supposed to be to run AC EVERY month, and to religiously replace the collant with

Re: [MBZ] I love the looks of the W108

2011-08-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
Ours was gray-blue/parchment. Very lovely indeed. On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Dwight Giles Jr. degco...@cox.net wrote: Ah yes my first (and abiding) love. Sweet. And first MB I ever drove. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 220K miles 1990 300D 2.5t 196K miles Wickford RI -Original

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Down south we call them co-beers and I have been known to occasionally indulge on a Sunday (and a Monday and a...) --R On 8/9/11 9:51 PM, Hendrik Fay wrote: Alas we cannot claim this particular piece of genius http://www.xtrememotorizedcooler.com/index.htm although from what I remember down

Re: [MBZ] Henifay busted!!!

2011-08-09 Thread Michael Canfield
Hmm. Elmira is 20 minutes south of me. Mike On Aug 9, 2011 10:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Made in the Elmira, NY area. Not far from Neil and Star Motors. Alas we cannot claim this particular piece of genius http://www.xtrememotorizedcooler.com/index.htm although from what I