Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5t tranny

2012-01-11 Thread Fmiser
OK Don wrote: It still shifts very nicely from first to second, but no further. The kick-down switch feels like it is operating normally, clicks nicely, etc. I don't see any worn or shorted wires. I have not been following this thread, so sorry if I'm out of date... Upshift is typically

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Hendrik Fay
Me thinks this is a revenue raising thing, look around at all the stupid laws/regulations and you'll see that we are wallets on legs/wheels. Hendrik who is being fleeced to the bone by gooberments who tell you that they are doing this for your own good Dieselhead wrote: Hendrik points out

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Hendrik Fay
I still maintain that the 90's SL (won't even bother to get chassis code) is the most ugly thing ever to come out of Sindelfingen (did they even dare to make that there? probably made in a back street factory in Taiwan). Hendrik who would rather push a 107 than be seen in the next gen SL

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Hendrik Fay
Ummmnh sorry no that Ford thing is still ugly and will be fugly forever, curves are nice but you go over the top and... Hendrik who points and laughs whenever he sees a Torturous Scott Ritchey wrote: I think beauty derives from function. Specifically, great cars eventually become

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5t tranny

2012-01-11 Thread Larry
Hello Don, I assume you've checked all of the vacuum lines to make sure none have become disconnected/damaged? If it comes down to it, I highly recommend the ATs Rusty sells - mine has been perfect - like a brand new AT - I spoke with Rusty about his history with the rebuilder - he said he

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5t tranny

2012-01-11 Thread Larry
FYI - Just noticed on the Sun Valley website, they suggest 24k fluid changes - MB says 30K. Wonder why? Also, the warranty is 2 yr. limited - with repairs done at the Sun Valley Ca facility. Won't be much help since I'm in Va. I bet shipping would exceed the cost of a new AT! ;-^

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Larry
My electronic 35 SLRs have all stopped working properly - but the Leica made around 1950 and entirely mechanical, works like the day it was new ;-) It's a great camera once you get used to the focus mechanism and the separate light meter. Doubt I'll get the Minolta's fixed -

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I was just reading an article about Kodachrome, and in it they stated that a Kodachrome 35mm negative was equivalent to about 20 megapixels. Where the author got that I don't know, but it sounds plausible. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Larry l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I question that statement, as I can go back and look at cars in the 70s or 80s and see some pretty significant differences between the brands design-wise. Sure, there were some similarities, but I challenge someone who is not car savvy to pick out, say, a Jaguar X class from a Hyundai in a

Re: [MBZ] Amateur car waxing

2012-01-11 Thread Larry
Agree with you about 3M - I think most of that comes from 3Ms use in the professional car painters world - the store where I buy paint is where I buy moist buffing and color sanding products. I have also found the sandpaper sold at auto paint stores is *much* better than the stuff you get at

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Max
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Me thinks this is a revenue raising thing, look around at all the stupid laws/regulations and you'll ee that we are wallets on legs/wheels. Hendrik who is being fleeced to the bone by gooberments who tell you that they are doing this for your own

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: Hendrik points out one of the inherent problems of trying to enforce anti-stupid laws. Anti-stupid laws are in themselves stupid, thus typical legal hypocrisy. They are always selectively enforced; another hypocrisy. Yep, general liability and

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Jim Cathey
Leica made around 1950 and entirely mechanical...Doubt I'll get the [electronic] Minoltas fixed - would probably cost more than new ones. Something like a Minolta SRT-101 is also entirely mechanical, except for the light meter. I've got one (unless it's a -201). I don't use it, my Dad was

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Allan Streib
Larry l02tur...@comcast.net writes: My electronic 35 SLRs have all stopped working properly - but the Leica made around 1950 and entirely mechanical, works like the day it was new ;-) It's a great camera once you get used to the focus mechanism and the separate light meter. If I

Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Jim Cathey
I still maintain that the 90's SL (won't even bother to get chassis code) is the most ugly thing ever to come out of Sindelfingen (did they even dare to make that there? probably made in a back street factory in Taiwan). Looks like an 80's Ford Mustang to me. Not bad, but nothing like a 107,

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Jim Cathey
What's funny is that's what been said about every generation of cars. I suspect it has more to do with the person making the observation than it does about the cars being observed. I think things go in cycles, but not everyone perceives cycles in the same way! I think they're all ugly too,

Re: [MBZ] bundt style wheels

2012-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley
glenn brown wrote: 6 1/2 x 14 H2 wheels compatible with my W123 cars and 195 70/14 tires? 126/116 wheels are compatible with 123 chassis. 195/70 tires often have a recommended rim width of 5.0-6.5, with 6.0 being ideal. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Wascally Wubber Band Tires

2012-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: When a 195/65-15 tosses its tread on the front of a 124, you are looking at $2500 damage. Fenders are what, $100? Plus another $150 for paint? How much is the plastic liner? Did it take out a door or two also? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: In this state, the law is that unless the cop is in pursuit with lights and sireens, they are subject to the same speeds and laws. Of course, this is never enforced. It was a local yocal: suburban town cop. My state too, probably all states. Unless you're running code

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Jim Cathey
I was just reading an article about Kodachrome, and in it they stated that a Kodachrome 35mm negative was equivalent to about 20 megapixels. It's a positive, not a negative. That figure might be a bit low. One difference is that with film the three color-sensitive layers are superimposed,

Re: [MBZ] Amateur car waxing

2012-01-11 Thread Gerry Archer
Hi Dan, I had the car washed at a good carwash. What I thought was oxidation was some sort of air pollution; probably from our local coal fired power plant. It came out of the carwash with the finish showing no visible oxidation. The directions on the 3M wax bottle are different than any I've

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Check KEH to get an idea of prices. Do understand that their grading system is frighteningly conservative, as I have bought stuff labeled BGN and UG (bargain and ugly) that was amazingly nice. Even their EX stuff looks like new. I would not hesitate to buy something from them. Dan Sent from

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
My dad's XG-7 is still in good order, although I haven't used it in years. It does require a battery, but I'm not sure if it is necessary for operation or not. I have a bunch of lenses and other goodies for it, but as stated above, they never get used. Like a lot of 35mm gear, it has no value

Re: [MBZ] Amateur car waxing

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I use a microfiber pad or applicator to put it on, and a low speed random orbit polisher/buffer to take it off. I like applying it by hand, as it's easier to be sure that you get wax everywhere you want it. Even with a buffer, you have to go back and get some of the wax off by hand, since it

[MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Looks like I may be transporting a car from the Philadelphia area to Florida this weekend, if plans work out. Depending on what day I go up, I will be traveling I-95 down to Jacksonville on Sunday or Monday. If anyone wants to get together for a quick meet and greet, drop me a note off list

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I have become a community agitator in our local realm. I have busted a number of deputies who have been exceeding the speed limit, tailgating, etc. Easy enough to do by just jotting down the tag number, car type, location and time, speed and limit in the location, and taking a pic if you

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I liked those 70s Ford Granadas, just like a Mercedes! I would take a nice E-Type, maybe a V12 --R On 1/11/12 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I question that statement, as I can go back and look at cars in the 70s or 80s and see some pretty significant differences between the brands

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
My brother had a two door Granada. What a POS that car was! Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I liked those 70s Ford Granadas, just like a Mercedes! I would take a nice E-Type, maybe a V12 --R On 1/11/12

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread WILTON
How 'bout a lunch meeting at Cracker Barrel near Selma or Wilson, NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:20 AM Subject: [MBZ] Road Trip! Looks like I may be transporting a car from

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
In that case, how do you distinguish tired from normal? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. On 1/10/12, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: thanks! cheers! e On 10/Jan/12 20:09, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have a Nikon N 2000 SLR film SLR camera with the f1.4 50 mm, 28mm f3.5, and 200mm f 4.0 lenses. The lenses were from my old Nikon Photonic FTN body and converted so they sync with the 2000. Are these collector's items yet? Does anyone want to make me an offer? All are in primo condition.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In that case, how do you distinguish tired from normal? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. May depend on how it has been driven in the recent past as well. My 115 300D was a real dog when I got it. My first, so I

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Dan, I'll do buy you lunch in Silver Spring, MD on your way back north if you purchase my awesome 300D engine and haul it back to Phillie. The price for the engine is flexible, negotiable and probably way below market. I'll be at your mercy. Andrew On 1/11/12, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Next time I come to DC in the truck I am going to get that thing. And see if those lenses will fit my D5000. --R On 1/11/12 11:36 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Dan, I'll do buy you lunch in Silver Spring, MD on your way back north if you purchase my awesome 300D engine and haul it back to

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I am flying to Philly, not driving. Sorry. As for your Nikon stuff, I doubt it will ever be collectible, as there were too many made. If you're curious about values, look at KEH's web site for an idea. I cringe when I see what medium format stuff goes for these days. I can buy a complete

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread G Mann
Google Dash Camera and you will find a list of very handy dash or windshield mounted cameras. Some which have GPS links and date / time stamps into the record. Price is suprisingly low. Some are on full time, some can be remotely triggered.. you choose. There are even some that have both front

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In that case, how do you distinguish tired from normal? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. Simple, use the diagnostic tool that Dr MB used: time required for 0 to 62 mph. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300,

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread WILTON
'And doing crossword puzzles. Yep, I've seen that in a driver's lap, too - 'answered to question, Why is she weaving back and forth from over centerline to beyond right side line? Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Max
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Looks like I may be transporting a car from the Philadelphia area to Florida this weekend, if plans work out. Whatdidyouget? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
OK, Dan, so long as you realize that Rich may swoop in and take away this valuable cargo. Don't say I didn't warn you. ;) Andrew On 1/11/12, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I am flying to Philly, not driving. Sorry. As for your Nikon stuff, I doubt it will ever be collectible, as there

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Less than 1 minute = not tired? On 1/11/12, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In that case, how do you distinguish tired from normal? The pre-turbo diesels were pretty sluggish in the best of times. Simple, use the diagnostic tool that Dr

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
Spying on LE?? What are you - sick o' livin'? On 1/11/12, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'And doing crossword puzzles. Yep, I've seen that in a driver's lap, too - 'answered to question, Why is she weaving back and forth from over centerline to beyond right side line? Wilton -

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Chick with cruise on, both feet on the drivers side mirror drying her toenails. Saw it back in 2005 on the mass pike... Walt On Jan 11, 2012 12:15 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'And doing crossword puzzles. Yep, I've seen that in a driver's lap, too - 'answered to question, Why is she

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread WILTON
LE? Wilton - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking Spying on LE?? What are you - sick o' livin'? On 1/11/12, WILTON

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5t tranny

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
Where does one find documentation on this governor? It's a 722.4. Other than changing the fluid and RR, I have no experience working on auto trannys. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:55 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK Don wrote: It still shifts very nicely from first to second, but no

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Scott Ritchey
What happens when you protect people from their own stupidity? Obvious: you get a lot more stupid people. Duh. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I used to regularly see people driving on 128 with a Herald on the steering wheel and a cup of regulah in their hand, heavy traffic moving at 60 or more. That was one of the least disturbing things. One morning on the way to work I see a car jamming on its brakes, a car behind right on its

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
I think the v12 XKE was a caricature. I want a '66 or '67 - synchro first gear, triple SU's, original bumpers. I'd like it even better if someone else was doing the maintenance (8hrs flat rate to adjust the valves). Someone in MB (Uhlenhaut?) was quoted saying something like elegance is last

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
No, they're not collectors items yet, but you can use those lenses with a new digi Nikon body - at least the D700 for sure. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 10:28 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I have a Nikon N 2000 SLR film SLR camera with the f1.4 50 mm, 28mm f3.5, and 200mm f 4.0

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
I've had the same experience with KEH. Their prices are higher than a lot of eBay sales these days, but you have a lot more confidence buying from them. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Check KEH to get an idea of prices. Do understand that their grading

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I used to maintain a 67 XKE for a former employer. I believe it had the 4.2l 6 cylinder in it. Best thing one could do for that engine was polish and port it - the fit and finish between the manifolds and head were horrendous. 8 hours for a valve adjustment is a little extreme - I don't recall

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
They were driving Volvos, right? Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I used to regularly see people driving on 128 with a Herald on the steering wheel and a cup of regulah in their hand, heavy traffic moving at 60 or

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
They are much more reasonable now than were just before digital became decent, but still not cheap. The M6 has a built-in meter, and it works great. The meter is all the battery runs. I ought to sell mine, but I'm still emotionally attached to it. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Allan Streib

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
The cure is usually an Italian tune-up. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:36 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Less than 1 minute = not tired? On 1/11/12, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 11/01/2012 10:24 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In that case, how do you distinguish

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
Yes, comparing film grains to pixels is apples to oranges. Measuring captured line pairs is a more valid test, but includes the entire optical chain. 100lpi used to be the benchmark - very few lens/camera combos got there. I've gotten very good results with multiple image panoramas using a

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
No, that would have been in Cambridge (aka Cambridge Cadillac), with Save the Whales Free Tibet Free Eritrea etc bumper stickers. And Cambridge was a Domestic Violence Free Zone according to signs at the border, and a Nuclear-free Zone, though there was a reactor right on Mass Ave... If you

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I cringe when I see what medium format stuff goes for these days. I can buy a complete camera outfit today for what I paid years ago for just a body. Look at it this way, it's becoming like an old MB. Well made, durable, reliable, and

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Yabbut I cringe because that's what *I* paid for some of my gear! Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wed, Jan 11, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: I cringe when I see what medium format stuff goes for these days. I can buy

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Canfield
No idea what they are worth. Give me a price and I will talk to Toni and see if she wants it. Thanks, Mike On Jan 11, 2012 11:28 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Nikon N 2000 SLR film SLR camera with the f1.4 50 mm, 28mm f3.5, and 200mm f 4.0 lenses. The lenses

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Hmm. When I used to visit Woburn, Wakefield and Peabody (and yes, I pronounce it the proper way, just like Glowster) it always seemed like I was awash in a sea of Swedish bricks on I-95 and 128. Dan honorary Bostonian Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Rich Thomas

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Correction: Glowsta Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm. When I used to visit Woburn, Wakefield and Peabody (and yes, I pronounce it the proper way, just like Glowster) it always seemed like I was awash in a sea of Swedish bricks on

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah I was thinkin youse was sum kinda queah uh sumtin. Wicked pissa. I lived in Melrose, worked in Cambridge and Wakefield. --R On 1/11/12 2:56 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Correction: Glowsta Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Dan Penofflwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmm. When I

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Less than 1 minute = not tired? Technical Data book for passenger cars, April 1985 edition, has the answer; my copy is not available at the moment but if you'd like I can check later this evening. Come to think of it, maybe that site that

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Max
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Less than 1 minute = not tired? Less than 19.2 seconds = not tired for a 123.150. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Wascally Wubber Band Tires

2012-01-11 Thread Fmiser
Mitch wrote: When a 235/85-16 truck tire sheds its tread at speed, you're often looking at $1100 or more for body/fender work. Dieselhead wrote: When a 195/65-15 tosses its tread on the front of a 124, you are looking at $2500 damage. Are you guys talking about the tread coming off -

Re: [MBZ] driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread RELNGSON
So, it seems like everyone here is sufficiently skilled to drive and talk, so they claim anyway. Take a look at this NTSB report, download the pdf file and read the whole thing paying attention to the photos and the cell phone record. http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/summary/har0302.htm

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread RELNGSON
The cure is usually an Italian tune-up... Speaking of my 300D in particular, it would have taken more than an eye-talian tuneup to to even use the word performance when referring to it. A miracle would have been required, in fact. RLE ___

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
None at all would be interested in putting that on their lot. On 1/10/2012 9:03 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net writes: It is also possible that dealer sales may have some state laws that come into effect, but the most likely thing is that he's trying to get a retail

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did not get turbo till 82 On 1/10/2012 10:09 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 09:08:22 -0800 ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: is it Turbo, or N/A? (i've seen '81s that were either,...) Naturally aspirated. Craig

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/01/2012 3:14 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: The cure is usually an Italian tune-up... Speaking of my 300D in particular, it would have taken more than an eye-talian tuneup to to even use the word performance when referring to it. A miracle would have been required, in fact. RLE It

Re: [MBZ] driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Randy Bennell
On 11/01/2012 3:09 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: So, it seems like everyone here is sufficiently skilled to drive and talk, so they claim anyway. Take a look at this NTSB report, download the pdf file and read the whole thing paying attention to the photos and the cell phone record.

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Curt Raymond
IIRC the 240D is in the 20 second range. I think I read once that an early VW bus (split window say) was 0-60 in like 70 seconds... -Curt Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 12:36:13 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw:

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 11, 2012 1:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: None at all [dealers] would be interested in putting that on their lot. Maybe not in Okieland, but on the West Coast all kinds of interesting old European and Japanese cars that have evaded the tinworm show up on even the

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
I have (I had a 1971-1/2 Pinto hatchback with the 2000cc four banger) and the Pinto would definitely have won. When I had my first MB, a 1979 300TD, the wife refused to drive it because, It's not fast enough. I killed that argument when I got it up to nearly 100 mph on I-43 south of

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread Randy Bennell
Did the Pinto have a manual transmission? I can recall driving a 4 cylinder automatic Mustang that was about the slowest thing going. Randy On 11/01/2012 3:49 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I have (I had a 1971-1/2 Pinto hatchback with the 2000cc four banger) and the Pinto would definitely have

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what are you getting? On 1/11/2012 8:20 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Looks like I may be transporting a car from the Philadelphia area to Florida this weekend, if plans work out. Depending on what day I go up, I will be traveling I-95 down to Jacksonville on Sunday or Monday. If anyone wants to

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Yes, it had a four speed. I can't imagine that car with a C-4 in it. Total slug. The stock carb was a Holley 5200 that the second barrel was crippled on for emissions. I fixed that, and after doing so, it was quite peppy. Dan On Jan 11, 2012, at 4:55 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: Did the

Re: [MBZ] Amateur car waxing

2012-01-11 Thread Euan
Hi there from the Antipodes, Gerry I use 3M Imperial Hand Glaze (Part no. 051131-05990) on my W123. It was strongly recommended by a panel-beater friend. It contains no silicone or waxes, so no build-up on your paintwork. Coverage is good and manual polish-off is easy if you don't use too

[MBZ] FYI SNOW TIRES -1985 300TD

2012-01-11 Thread Michael Esh
My son-in-law just bought these Firestone snow tire at Tirerack. For 62.00 each. I think Blizzack run aboutm100.00

[MBZ] 1983 300D for sale Tulsa area

2012-01-11 Thread Dallas Shell
I bought new cars and am getting out of the 300D business. My wife's car is the last to go, she got her new car in Oct and is now selling her MB. http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/2762795575.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Wascally Wubber Band Tires

2012-01-11 Thread Dieselhead
Tread unwrapping on the I- highway, beating the bejeebers out of everything within 3 feet for a few seconds, before it goes its own way, before the car got stopped. Bumper cover, fender, hood, inner fender, the plastic deal at the bottom of the fender, fender trim, the door and the plastic

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: I question that statement, as I can go back and look at cars in the 70s or 80s and see some pretty significant differences between the brands design-wise. Sure _you_ can. But is that an intrinsic difference? Sure, there were some similarities, but I challenge someone

Re: [MBZ] driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Guilty of doing it at 65 on I90 when I picked up my car (my friend and I misses the exits and lost sight of each other, so he called to see where I was)... Even hands-free, it was distracting enough to warrant bedding in behind a tanker truck and matching speed with cruise. And that was without

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread ernest breakfield
yeah, that's what i'd read also, but have seen '81 CDs that were both turbo and N/A... why i had to ask. cheers! e On 11/Jan/12 13:21, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did not get turbo till 82 On 1/10/2012 10:09 PM, Craig wrote: On Mon, 09 Jan 2012

Re: [MBZ] Fw: Our old Benz is for sale

2012-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
they were most likely really '82 On 1/11/2012 4:52 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: yeah, that's what i'd read also, but have seen '81 CDs that were both turbo and N/A... why i had to ask. cheers! e On 11/Jan/12 13:21, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 81 wagons could be turbo or not, the D and CD did

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread glenn brown
I believe one of the traits for those of us with old M-B diesels is cheap genes, as I still have my Nikon F T which I purchased in '68 for $210 w/ the Nikkor F1.4 50mm lens along with a more recent Nikon FTN both of which I don't use as much as I used to but still do shoot film occasionally.

[MBZ] OT: Dells again

2012-01-11 Thread Dieselhead
A few weeks ago I got a GX270 Dell (3.2 Processor) that turned out to have bad caps and was DOA. Today I picked up a GX270 (2.6) that has all good caps, perhaps already replaced. It appears to be a couple of months newer than the 3.2. (cost: 25¢) The 3.2 appears to have a water cool

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dells again

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
Are the copper tubes open at the ends? I ask because there are heat pipes that are commonly used these days both in laptops and desktops that are sealed at the ends and filled with some sort of heat-conduction medium, possibly sodium? Dan On Jan 11, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Dieselhead wrote: A

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dells again

2012-01-11 Thread Dieselhead
The copper tubes are semi-circles. They appear to go top to bottom, like a gravity flow arrangement. I didn't look at it a lot. Fins are thin alum sheets spaced maybe 1/16th of an inch apart. Kinda like a A/C condensor without the wrinkles. Nothing like a normal heat sink. Are the

Re: [MBZ] Road Trip!

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
1992 300E 2.6 for the oldest son. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: what are you getting? On 1/11/2012 8:20 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Looks like I may be transporting a car from the Philadelphia area to Florida this weekend, if

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dells again

2012-01-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Yep, if the socket is the same, swap the processor. You will notice a nice extra kick of speed, which can help. The heat pipe cooler is much better than the slab of aluminum designs, so I'd say transfer it over even if you don't swap processors. Walt On Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] Wascally Wubber Band Tires

2012-01-11 Thread Walt Zarnoch
My new car has 205/40R17 Falken ze-519's on it... Came with the car, likely will be taking them off and throwing proper 15 steelies on for the winter with oem size studded snows. You feel EVERYTHING on the road when the tire is only 40mm sidewall... It's both nice, and exceptionally scary, at the

Re: [MBZ] Wascally Wubber Band Tires

2012-01-11 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 11, 2012 4:37 PM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: My new car has 205/40R17 Falken ze-519's on it... Came with the car, likely will be taking them off and throwing proper 15 steelies on for the winter with oem size studded snows. That's fine, unless the brake discs are so big

Re: [MBZ] Driving and talking

2012-01-11 Thread Mountain Man
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Dells again

2012-01-11 Thread Dieselhead
Yep, if the socket is the same, swap the processor. You will notice a nice extra kick of speed, which can help. The heat pipe cooler is much better than the slab of aluminum designs, so I'd say transfer it over even if you don't swap processors. Walt On Jan 11, 2012 6:27 PM, Dieselhead

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread M G
I don't think you would like a V-12, that is unless you can strip off all the anti pollution junk on it. It is a nightmare to work on. As far as 8 hours for a valve adjustment, could be book time but I remember doing a complete valve job on my 63 3.8l e-type. Started right after work at 5 and

Re: [MBZ] elderly diesels, sans turbo

2012-01-11 Thread M G
They are probably faster then a 64 VW bus (40hp) with about 1200lbs of flagstones in it going from the Catskills to Westchester in NY. Believe me that thing went really slow going up the hills. Did go a bit fast downhill though. According to the editors of Car life Mag they couldn't get it to

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes-Benz SL Returns to Its Lightweight Roots

2012-01-11 Thread Dan Penoff
The guy I worked for at the time was a Jag nut, and had 7-8 Jags at any given time. A typical count would be: 195x XK140 (all original, needed restoration) 2 - late 50s/early 60s Mark IVs 1967 XKE 4.2 litre 2 - mid 70s XJ6s 1978 XJ12 The nice thing about this was that I got to drive any of

Re: [MBZ] OT - film cameras

2012-01-11 Thread OK Don
1000 rolls through a Nikon F is like 50,000 on a 123 300D - just getting broken in. My F3s got close to 1000 rolls per year for 10 years with two CLAs during the time. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM, glenn brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: I believe one of the traits for those of us with old

Re: [MBZ] '90 300D 2.5t tranny

2012-01-11 Thread Hendrik Fay
One finds it by ggling, there is a couple of pdf's floating around the net, regarding the 722.3/4 boxes. Seeing as I am trying to get my Mum's 722.4 to work properly I have looked at just about all of them, I have the box working well up until 4th, at which stage it likes to slip in gear

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