Re: [MBZ] CL Unimog-406

2012-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/2896397767.html So, any other Mog owners out there take the 'it's a tractor and I don't have to register it' position? Well, any old diesel Benz is pretty agricultural by normal

[MBZ] Benz pR0n

2012-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller

2012-03-12 Thread Michael Canfield
The nicer ones sense inertia and apply the trailer brakes accordingly. Mike On Mar 11, 2012 8:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: The brake controller must apply a force proportional to how hard you are braking, not how long you've been holding the brake pedal down. Otherwise you're

Re: [MBZ] CL Unimog-406

2012-03-12 Thread Allan Streib
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: So, any other Mog owners out there take the 'it's a tractor and I don't have to register it' position? Well, any old diesel Benz is pretty agricultural by normal people's standards. Lots of people around here register station wagons, minivans,

Re: [MBZ] Oh Mr. Q!

2012-03-12 Thread Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] Kevin K or Alex in PDX

2012-03-12 Thread clay monroe
No idea. Guy said it was his for a twenty years, garage kept, he was dying of cancer. clay On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Mar 11, 2012 5:25 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: clay monroe wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/2889827963.html

Re: [MBZ] Kevin K or Alex in PDX

2012-03-12 Thread Allan Streib
Sounds suspiciously like a scam. Was the price a relative bargain? The hard luck stories of divorce, terminal illness, etc. along with a too-good-to-be-true price are classic red flags. Allan On Mon, Mar 12, 2012, at 09:23 AM, clay monroe wrote: No idea. Guy said it was his for a twenty

[MBZ] Cummins?

2012-03-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
01 dodge cummins, did those have problems? Hp and mileage? Is $7700 a good price, 2500 2wd 163k miles Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC Issue

2012-03-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Guys, Is the KLIMA relay in this car the same as the MAS relay? There are three things behind the battery: MAS relay (big knob on top that locks it into the socket) A very large box with a connector, which from prior experience looks like the burglar alarm that used to be under the kick panel

Re: [MBZ] Cummins?

2012-03-12 Thread Dan Penoff
B series? Anything B series is good, at least from an industrial standpoint. Dan On Mar 12, 2012, at 3:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 01 dodge cummins, did those have problems? Hp and mileage? Is $7700 a good price, 2500 2wd 163k miles Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Kevin K or Alex in PDX

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
Yep sounds like a scam. Also the I am being deployed is unfortunately most often a scam. Another scammer CL thing is to post I am being deployed so the car is in portland (or another coastal city) then posting in your inland CL, often thousands of miles away. THese are scamming for a

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC Issue

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
No. Klima generally says klima and engine type (8zyl) it ia about 3 x 3 x 1 Yes, slipping belt will shut down the kompressor. There is a comparison of engine rpm with compressor rpm. Guys, Is the KLIMA relay in this car the same as the MAS relay? There are three things behind the

Re: [MBZ] CL Unimog-406

2012-03-12 Thread Kevin Kraly
Some people think that the only place for a Diesel engine is in a truck or tractor. When I told a friend of mine about my diesel Benz addiction, that was exactly his reaction. How funny that our Kubota B7100 and L2500 tractors would have probably outrun the 240D to 20MPH! Kevin in

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC Issue

2012-03-12 Thread OK Don
The one with the two fuses is the over voltage protection relay --- don't know about the others. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Guys, Is the KLIMA relay in this car the same as the MAS relay? There are three things behind the battery: MAS relay (big

Re: [MBZ] Restoring function

2012-03-12 Thread RELNGSON
When the seat goes every direction except back, shove the switch forward and hold it for at least two seconds after the seat stops moving forward. (moving the seat farther forward was the last thing I thought I wanted to do Thursday) This resets the seat controller so that it knows

Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller

2012-03-12 Thread Randy Bennell
It probably goes without saying but I think one must also make sure that the unit is compatible with ABS if the truck is so equipped. Randy On 12/03/2012 8:51 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: The nicer ones sense inertia and apply the trailer brakes accordingly. Mike On Mar 11, 2012 8:24 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Kevin K or Alex in PDX

2012-03-12 Thread clay monroe
It had been on CL for a while. Not the sob story, and price was somewhat higher in prior ad. Down to $2800 from $8k clay On Mar 12, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Sounds suspiciously like a scam. Was the price a relative bargain? The hard luck stories of divorce, terminal

[MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
From no responses, I gather nobody else has had a turbo failure. Is that right? Is it correct that any oil in the compressor is conclusive evidence of seal failure? Does anyone have experience with buying a turbo cartridge? Does anyone know what turbo is on an 87 SDL? Garret or KKK? It

Re: [MBZ] OT Truck brake controller

2012-03-12 Thread Rich Thomas
It looks like the controllers have an accelerometer in them that senses the vehicle stop rate, then applies the trailer brakes to match that. I don't think they have ABS for the trailers, unless the controller is sensitive enough to match its brake application to the ABS rate -- which is

[MBZ] Reset

2012-03-12 Thread RELNGSON
Here's a better explanation: Windows, seats, mirrors, steering wheel position (easy entry/exit) and the like can be reset by running them fully in one direction, holding the switch at full travel for approximately 2 seconds (or longer), then running to the opposite limit, holding for about 2

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: From no responses, I gather nobody else has had a turbo failure. Is that right? Is it correct that any oil in the compressor is conclusive evidence of seal failure? ...or a plugged drain line. If you plug the drain and feed it oil under pressure, the oil will get into

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC Issue

2012-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Depends on the model year, at some point all the relays were (stupidly in my opinion) integrated into a smart one. Costs the earth. Peter On Mar 12, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Guys, Is the KLIMA relay in this car the same as the MAS relay? There are three things behind the

[MBZ] Fwd: Service manual - Mercedes - $25 (Milford)

2012-03-12 Thread Fred Moir
Not mine, etc. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred Original Message Subject:Service manual - Mercedes - $25 (Milford) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:42:56 -0700 (PDT) From: fred.s...@yahoo.com To: fred.s...@verizon.net fred.s...@yahoo.com has forwarded you this

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick
All diesel engines have some blowby -- easy enough to check on a 603, just pull the hard plastic hose out of the intake boot in front of the turbo. I believe mine is bad, due to the amount of oil consumption (too high for the front seal leak to account for) and blue smoke on startup (new

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
Is there any way to check the drain without taking the drain or the turbo off? My guess is not. I can't imagine the drain getting plugged when M1 is in the engine. I am inclined to order a turbo cartridge and just change it. If the drain is plugged, I could clean and replace and keep the

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Brian Toscano
The turbos can be either Garrett or KKK. They were used interchangeably from the factory. You do not need to take off the exhaust manifold. You will need the metal gasket that goes between the turbo the manifold. You may need to purchase studs or new copper nuts if you have problems. The

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
I did not pull off the intake yet. That was on my list for the morning. Along with wrapping the joint at the crossover/intake manifold with a white rag and after a highway drive, checking to see if oil is leaking out there. After 300k to 400k, the shaft on my old SDL had imperceptible side

[MBZ] OM617 Glow Plug Replacement

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Stupid question time. It looks WAY easier to remove and replace the glow plugs by first removing the injection lines and getting them out of the way. Next time I do it, I would prefer to not have my hands scraped up by the lines and clamps. That and my hands are large, not dainty. Make any sense?

Re: [MBZ] OM617 Glow Plug Replacement

2012-03-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 12, 2012 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Stupid question time. It looks WAY easier to remove and replace the glow plugs by first removing the injection lines and getting them out of the way. Just be glad you're not trying to do it on a 603! Alex

Re: [MBZ] OM617 Glow Plug Replacement

2012-03-12 Thread Robert Koziak
Rick, A few weeks ago I replaced the glow plugs on my 1983 300D. Removing the injector lines first made it a real easy job. I used a special socket designed to remove the injector lines and that sped up the job. I saw no down side. ob -Original Message- From: Rick Knoble

Re: [MBZ] OM617 Glow Plug Replacement

2012-03-12 Thread clay monroe
Pretty much standard to remove lines since they are always in the way. Make sure you cap the IP delivery valves as well as injector so no gunk gets in. I use the fingers from rubber gloves. Put the lines back when you are through and then leave the injector side a little loose so they bleed

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Brian Toscano
It is unlikely that hot shutoffs killed your turbo. Some parts just break and no amount of oil changes or babying could have prevented it. On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I did not pull off the intake yet. That was on my list for the morning. Along

[MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Knoble
My local Pick and Pull gets the occasional W123/W126 diesel in stock. What parts does it make sense to pull and stash to keep on hand for spares? Any different opinions for W201/W124 cars? I was thinking starter, alternator, klima, injectors. Rick

[MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Well, maybe not. But it looks cool. I can go check it out if need be. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1952-Mercedes-170-D-/300676811042?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item4601bc0922 Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread clay monroe
Anything you can get your hands on that is not broken. I collected head lights and tail lights. Instrument clusters, cabin lights, relays, injectors, door panels and hardware, carpet, trim bits, pumps and blower motors. Grills and wiper arms. If you can get monovalves or other heating bits,

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread clay monroe
Wow! AND the CLS that was at the body shop MBCA outing this weekend was totaled after having the passenger side window busted in. Took out the dash, glass, seat, door trim, door and some other bits. Any damage to this beauty would be heart breaking. clay On Mar 12, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Rick

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I think the display in the trunk is a little much... and a little disturbing. The car was built in 1952... Beyond that... its restored, but certainly not to original condition... the interior doesn't fit the car. Its nice to see one of these still on the road, but its sad that it fell into

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Agreed. I have a slower connection and didn't wait for all the pictures to load. The trunk and interior are pretty tacky. Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 12, 2012, at 8:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I think the display in the trunk is a little much... and a little

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread Allan Streib
Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com writes: I think the display in the trunk is a little much... and a little disturbing. The car was built in 1952... Indeed, I was wondering if anyone else scrolled far enough to see that. I was actually shocked. Beyond that... its restored, but certainly

[MBZ] XZN drivers

2012-03-12 Thread Brian Toscano
Are XZN drivers used on many cars today? I haven't used them on any vehicle except my old Mercedes. Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] CL Unimog-406

2012-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey
So, any other Mog owners out there take the 'it's a tractor and I don't have to register it' position? Probably stand a better chance of getting away with it if you've got a 3-point hitch on the back! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

[MBZ] Another Wagon For Mitch

2012-03-12 Thread Rick Knoble
I am on a posting roll tonight... http://richmond.craigslist.org/cto/2872593527.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC Issue

2012-03-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Can someone elaborate on the use of propane, especially it's efficiency compared to R-12? I've heard that it can be _more_ efficient than R12. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Service manual - Mercedes - $25 (Milford)

2012-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Fred Moir wrote: Visit the posting at http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/2888549176.html to contact the person who posted this. Oh, I see. BMW is Boston-Metro-West. The link made it look like they had a category for BMW parts and somebody listed a MBZ manual there. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread WILTON
Very disturbing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This Agreed. I have a slower connection and didn't wait for all the

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: I think the display in the trunk is a little much... and a little disturbing. The car was built in 1952... Yeah, that spare tire is at least three decades worth of anachronism. Looks like it belongs in a W201. The radio is way wrong too. The hodgepodge of WWII

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Oil feed line is on top, under the EGR assembly. You will probably need to also remove the 10 mm screw that holds the line to the bracket, and possibly the fitting on the block as well. Not a big deal. The exhaust is connected via some accordioned stainless parts with strap clamps, easy

Re: [MBZ] Someone Needs This

2012-03-12 Thread G Mann
The trunk display can go in the trash where it belongs.. or hand it back to the current owner when you take the car. Same for the radio. Does Q have parts for this car? Would love to add it to the collection as a sometimes Sunday driver and to detail out and show it perhaps. Just a thought.

Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread Tim C
I disagree with Clay on this. I have too many parts for cars I don't have, and not enough for those I do. And, of course, the parts I do have that fit aren't what I need. When I first started cruising the pnp I got everything I thought I might need, and then the engine blew up... Now I have a

Re: [MBZ] 603 turbo WAS:smokin SDL

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
yes. 270k miles is on the low side of longevity, but not unheard of. 500k miles is probably the top of longevity. (with possible outliers) It is unlikely that hot shutoffs killed your turbo. Some parts just break and no amount of oil changes or babying could have prevented it. On Mon,

Re: [MBZ] CL Unimog-406

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
Most state troopers have a ticket now mentality. I don't think that arguing it is a tractor will go very far. So, any other Mog owners out there take the 'it's a tractor and I don't have to register it' position? Probably stand a better chance of getting away with it if you've got a

Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
You TELL Her? This policy does mean I burn a lot of entry fees, and it hurt to pay for a refurb alternator because I didn't grab it when available, but on the other hand it means my wife hates my trips to the yard just a little less, and that's worth a lot to me. :) Best, Tim disposing of '98

Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread Dieselhead
I have a different take on this (provided you can find enough storage space. Once I collected a spare hood, grille, fenders and bumper (trunk and taillights for the other end) for my 200D, people quit running into it. There is some corollary to Murphy's law: Whatever you have, you won't

Re: [MBZ] Old MB Parts

2012-03-12 Thread Fmiser
Rick Knoble wrote: My local Pick and Pull gets the occasional W123/W126 diesel in stock. What parts does it make sense to pull and stash to keep on hand for spares? Well, from off the top of my head, here is a list of parts I have used from my parts cars. Some may be price-prohibitive